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    2 psychos !
    One will run out of the meeting. Better yet, both will die 3-4 days after.

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    "Great... Great... Tremendous... Tremendously... Terrific..."

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    success for Trump and Kim,

    good job,

    Obama couldn't deliver on anything, sadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Obama couldn't deliver on anything, sadly
    What about his not vetoing his last Israel resolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Obama couldn't deliver on anything, sadly
    He wasn't a fucking moron that's why. Drumpf and Kim signed a paper saying nothing new at all. Everything in that paper has been said before the same shit NK has been saying since 2005. This whole thing is just a charade.

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    An agreement to discuss denuking at some point in the future....yuugely blase

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    An agreement to discuss denuking at some point in the future....yuugely blase
    Ya but his braindead base will eat it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    He wasn't a fucking moron that's why. Drumpf and Kim signed a paper saying nothing new at all. Everything in that paper has been said before the same shit NK has been saying since 2005. This whole thing is just a charade.
    and fucking Obama was sleeping at the wheel, and couldn't deliver any shit

    even Obamacare is a failure,

    I mean, he put fucking Kerry in charge of State, and before that, fucking Hillary

    the sad thing is that this clown is starting to make Obama looks like an incompetent clown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Obama was sleeping at the wheel, and couldn't deliver any shit
    No dealing with NK is stupid and we can revisit this in six months.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    even Obamacare is a failure
    You clueless moron Obamacare cut the amount of Americans without health insurance in half. 48 million Americans think you are moron. They have insurance now because of Obamacare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    the sad thing is that this clown is making Obama looks like an incompetent state man
    No in fact quite the opposite.

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    A Korea and an American walk into a food hall ..... Suddenly all is forgiven.


    F@#ken hell (I hope they do).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    They have insurance now because of Obamacare.
    "Affordable" Care Act




    Despite the law’s goals of containing costs and making health care affordable, it’s proven to be too expensive to be sustainable, overly complex and bureaucratic, and a gift to the private health insurance industry and other corporate stakeholders in the medical-industrial complex.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-bl...-beyond-repair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Obama couldn't deliver on anything, sadly
    The Iran deal UNSC vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Drumpf and Kim signed a paper saying nothing new at all. Everything in that paper has been said before the same shit NK has been saying since 2005. This whole thing is just a charade.
    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    An agreement to discuss denuking at some point in the future
    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Obama was sleeping at the wheel, and couldn't deliver any shit
    The Iran deal UNSC vote ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    "Affordable" Care Act
    So you dispute that the amount of uninsured Americans has been cut in half?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    So you dispute that the amount of uninsured Americans has been cut in half?
    Didn't say that...from that same article:

    To be fair, the ACA has brought some kind of coverage to about 20 million Americans, in good part through the expansion of Medicaid in 32 states (including D.C.) and the subsidized exchanges. But its negative results far outweigh its gains, as shown by these data points:• We still have 29 million uninsured Americans (compared to 48 million at the start), plus tens of millions underinsured.
    The part I underlined in post #112 is what ticks me off the most. IMO that's what it was always was about. A gift to the health insurance industry. If you don't agree with the writer of that Hill article, take it up with him...he's in your neck of the woods.

    John Geyman, M.D., is professor emeritus of family medicine at the University of Washington, Seattle, and author of “The Human Face of ObamaCare: Promises vs. Reality and What Comes Next.” He is past president of Physicians for a National Health Program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Ya but his braindead base will eat it up.
    no doubt....and SK must be wondering wtf just happened.

    Trump says North Korea will keep its promises, and the US will stop war games

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/12/trum...singapore.html

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    how about what this really smart guy posted?

    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    if trump doesn't storm out in the first hour, there will be vague talk about denuclearization....more specific talk about signing a 'peace agreement' between north and south...and no talk at all about the massive amounts of oil and food to be given to the north.

    kim won before he even got off the plane.

    ojk....anyone with half a brain knew this would be the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    If you don't agree with the writer of that Hill article, take it up with him...he's in your neck of the woods.
    Wrong thread asshole.

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    You won't be surprised.....

    He (Baldy Orange Cunto) also explained that better relations between the country made sense for Kim because of the opportunity to build hotels. He said: “Instead of [testing missiles] you could have the best hotels in the world right there. Think of it from a real estate perspective”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You clueless moron Obamacare cut the amount of Americans without health insurance in half. 48 million Americans think you are moron. They have insurance now because of Obamacare.
    Wrong thread asshole.


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    Wondering whether Trump hasn't forgotten to ask for the 11 Japonese abducted by NK - as was the reason of Abe's trip to DC shortly before, inorder to add it on the agenda.

    Not clear whether he (Abe) also wanted to convey some regards from the few "comfort women", who are still alive out of the thousands surviving WW2 in Japan.

    (BTW, has Thai govt ever asked for their "comfort women" like the Korean demanded? - on the ancient photos thread here they have been also presented.)

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    It appears the South Koreans were surprised by POTUSE announcement that war games would be cut.

    Trump Suspends Joint "War Games" With South Korea, As China Emerges Big Summit Winner

    "While Trump was quick to take a victory lap after signing a non-binding letter (of intent) with North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un to implement the dunclearization of North Korea, several questions have emerged among which:


    • the lack of deal enforcement
    • the lack of verifiability of N.Korea's denuclearization efforts as part of the "Complete, Verifiable, Irreversible Denuclearization" or CVID protocol
    • the legitimization of North Korea's regime
    • China's role in the process
    • the end of joint military drills with South Korea.

    While Trump's response to most critics was that the process is just starting and that it will take time to denuclearize, where Trump will see the greatest amount of pushback is on the last bullet point. Speaking in an interview with George Stephanopoulos shortly after the one-on-one with Kim, when asked if there was talk of pulling U.S. troops out of South Korea, Trump said the topic didn't come up, however he said the following:

    "We didn't discuss that, no. We're not going to play the war games... I thought they were very provocative. I also they're also very expensive."

    In his press conference after the summit, Trump reiterated that the US would halt joint war games with South Korea, as Pyongyang has agreed to destroy a "major" missile testing site.

    “We will be stopping the war games,” Trump said Tuesday during a news conference after four hours of meetings in Singapore with the North Korean leader. He offered no specifics about which exercises would be affected,.

    According to Bloomberg, Trump’s announcement came as a surprise to the South Korean government.

    "At this point, we need to know President Trump’s exact meaning or intentions,” according to a statement released by the office of South Korean President Moon Jae-in. “However we think that it is crucial to pursue various solutions for better dialogue.”

    Pressed on what the United States gets in exchange for halting the military exercises, Trump said "we haven't given up anything."

    “At some point,” Trump said, “I want to bring our soldiers home. But that’s not part of the equation right now."

    This is where Trump will get much pushback because in its commentary on Trump and Kim, Beijing said that this is "precisely that goal that China had always sought and worked hard for, and that as part of the final agreement, China also includes withdrawal of US troops from the Korean Peninsula, elimination of US-ROK military exercises, and dismantlement of US-ROK joint missile defense systems.

    China also includes withdrawal of US troops from the Korean Peninsula, elimination of US-ROK military exercises, and dismantlement of US-ROK joint missile defense systems.


    In other words, one could frame the summit as a victory for China which will soon see US presence in South Korea depart gradually (the same China which also carefully made its national interest clear when it brought Kim to Singapore).

    Trump's take is that he knows "for a fact" that Kim is going to "start a process" when returns home that will "make a lot of people very happy and very safe."

    And finally, there was another question mark: Trump and Kim capped off their summit Singapore by signing a statement committing the United States to unspecified “security guarantees” for Pyongyang in exchange for a denuclearized Korean peninsula.

    “President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to [North Korea], and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to the complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula," the statement said.

    It remains unclear what these "guarantees" are.

    Going back to the Stephanopoulos interview, the ABC anchor asked how Trump could trust the brutal dictator.

    "I do trust him," Trump said. "Maybe in a year you’ll be interviewing and I'll say I made a mistake. It's possible. We’re dealing at a high level, a lot of things can change a lot of things are possible."
    He pressed the president on his previous criticism of North Korea's human rights abuses including starving his people, running labor camps and assassinating members of his own family.

    "George, I'm given what I'm given," Trump said. "This is what we have, this is where we are, and I can only tell you from my experience, and I’ve met him, I've spoken with him. I’ve met him. And this is, this has started early and it's been very intense. I think that he really wants to do a great job for North Korea. I think he wants to de-nuke, without that, there's nothing to discuss. It was on the table from the beginning, and you see a total denuclearization of North Korea – so important.

    Trump added that he believes the North Korean leader "wants to do the right thing".
    "Now, what it is I can’t talk about – it doesn’t matter," Trump said. "We’re starting from scratch. We’re starting right now, and we have to get rid of those nuclear weapons."

    "We have the framework for getting ready to denuclearize," Trump said.

    "He's de-nuking the whole place. I think he's going to start now. "Over my lifetime I've done a lot of deals with a lot of people and sometimes the people you most distrust turn out to be the most honorable ones and the people that you do trust turn out to be not the honorable ones," Trump said.

    "I believe he wants to get it done."


    It remains to be seen if the biggest "deal" of Trump's lifetime will also be his biggest blunder.


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...es-south-korea
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    Trump and Kim

    Win Win

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