Thread: Starbucks to close 8,000 US stores 4 a day ... Black Lives Matter

Originally Posted by Cujo

I think people are just saying that in this case people sitting around a coffee shop without buying anything and being asked to leave isn't unusual or racist.

But that's not exactly what happened in this case though.

The fact they had the cops called on them for essentially doing nothing and waiting for someone is what makes it unusual and a story in the first place.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

But that's not exactly what happened in this case though.

The fact they had the cops called on them for essentially doing nothing and waiting for someone is what makes it unusual and a story in the first place.

I expect the reason they had the cops called on them is that the uppity niggras wouldn't leave when asked to.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by raycarey

oh look...a bunch of white guys on TD are complaining about blacks, "pc", and how racism doesn't exist.

Um, where the fuck do you get that from.
I think people are just saying that in this case people sitting around a coffee shop without buying anything and being asked to leave isn't unusual or racist.

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Originally Posted by Cujo

I expect the reason they had the cops called on them is that the uppity niggras wouldn't leave when asked to.

Yeah OK.

So their offense was being black in a public place. Surprised the police didn’t shoot them 10 - 15 times.

Each.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

for essentially doing nothing

Wasn't that the issue?


Walk into a restaurant, sit down and refuse to order, make the decision to stay and order nothing after being told to order something or leave?


If they weren't looking to make a problem/event/story ordering a simple bottle of water while waiting for whoever wouldn't have been too difficult.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

So their offense was being black in a public place.

Is it a public place?


Thought it was a privately owned restaurant.

Where has this ‘asked to leave’ bit actually come from? That’s not what has been reported.

They went in, dude asked to use the bathroom, was told he couldn’t as a non-customer, they sat down to wait, someone came over and asked if they wanted to order, they said they were waiting for their business associate to join them first... the cops were called.

And at this point both Starbucks and the police have apologized and admitted they were in the wrong.

Basically the whole issue here is that black men in the US in particular face this sort of shit as a matter of course in their daily life. They’re treated differently by society and the authorities simply because they’re black.

Some of the posts in this thread bare this out also: assumptions, inferences and extrapolations being made to justify why these two guys somehow deserved to be handcuffed and lead out of a Starbucks because they were waiting for an important business meeting and hadn’t ordered yet.

Next someone will surely find a way to make it all an example of how white men are actually the victims in all of his...

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Where has this ‘asked to leave’ bit actually come from? That’s not what has been reported.

That's thee thing.The whole interaction between the mgr and the two blacks isn't getting reported and the mgr's not talking. I'm thinking she just called the cops when they said they were just waiting for a friend and never asked them to leave. Just figured they were trouble and called the cops.

The talk shows must be offering up some money to get her to tell her side.

Originally Posted by Luigi

sit down and refuse to order,

except that's not what happened.

they were waiting to order....not refusing to order.

Originally Posted by Luigi

If they weren't looking to make a problem/event/story ordering a simple bottle of water while waiting for whoever wouldn't have been too difficult.

you've never told a server that you were going to wait for the rest of your party to arrive before ordering?

Originally Posted by uncle junior

I'm thinking she just called the cops when they said they were just waiting for a friend and never asked them to leave. Just figured they were trouble and called the cops.

That’s my understanding from what I’ve read also.

None of the other witnesses / customers have contradicted it either (at least not that I’ve seen).

Originally Posted by raycarey

you've never told a server that you were going to wait for the rest of your party to arrive before ordering?

If I want to reserve a table then I put a towel on it..

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

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Yeah OK.

So their offense was being black in a public place. Surprised the police didn’t shoot them 10 - 15 times.

Each.

And yet here they are bitching and moaning.
They should be grateful.

I’ve actually got a great anecdote about being ‘asked’ to leave a restaurant that’s kinda apropos to this thread.

I'd love to post it but unfortunately it would identify someone other than myself and Smeg, stroller, taxi & Co. would be all over it like flies to shit.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Where has this ‘asked to leave’ bit actually come from?

Not too sure. I haven't actually read the reports in any great detail.


Edit:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

In it, a woman is heard saying the men refused to “make a purchase or leave”.

Isn't that kinda refusing to make or purchase or leave.

As they refused to make a purchase, that only leaves the 'leave' option in the request from staff.


Or at least according to 3rd person hearsay.

Do all restaurants in the US keep their toilets locked or just a Starbucks thing?

Originally Posted by raycarey

you've never told a server that you were going to wait for the rest of your party to arrive before ordering?

Not without ordering drinks (water, wine or a glass of beer) or an appetizer, no.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Do all restaurants in the US keep their toilets locked or just a Starbucks thing?

Micky D's had to install UV lights in the toilets of their Dublin branches around 20+ years ago, so junkies wouldn't use them (much harder to see superficial veins).

I'd imagine the drug problems within most US cities don't encourage private businesses to leave their bathrooms open to all and sundry.

The Starbucks manager who called the police on two black customers for trespassing previously branded customers who didn't speak English 'rude'.

Holly Hylton managed the Center City Philadelphia store for a year and 'mutually parted ways' with the coffee chain after sparking a race row.

The 31-year-old asked the pair to leave after refusing to let them use the bathroom without buying anything, and called 911 when they stayed.

Footage filmed by a witness inside the store showed several police talking quietly with two black men seated at a table. After a few minutes, officers handcuff the men and lead them outside as other customers say they weren't doing anything wrong.

A white man identified as real estate developer Andrew Yaffe arrives and tells the officers the two men were waiting for him. An officer was captured on video saying the men were not complying and were being arrested for trespassing.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...espassing.html

Originally Posted by Luigi

Wasn't that the issue?


Walk into a restaurant, sit down and refuse to order, make the decision to stay and order nothing after being told to order something or leave?


If they weren't looking to make a problem/event/story ordering a simple bottle of water while waiting for whoever wouldn't have been too difficult.

Now that ^ is definitely more appropriate to the thread, in my opinion. I totally agree with your point of view, on both posts # 79 & 80, Mr. Luigi, sir.

^ Mr. Luigi, Sir? Must be another Luigi nic..

You'd be amazed at how often that's said.

It sure amazes me.

Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen

Mr. Luigi, sir.

Don't suppose you could run to the fridge.

Me beer needs topping up and me legs hurt from today's 6km walk in the park.

The girl in blue at the back could use a new bra.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

how white men are actually the victims in all of his

The store manager was whitish.

Originally Posted by lom

^ Mr. Luigi, Sir? Must be another Luigi nic..

Sigh! Obviously, a friendly gesture, made to the average intelligence level of TD platform subscriber, is an effort in total futility, eh?............

Originally Posted by Luigi

You'd be amazed at how often that's said. It sure amazes me. Don't suppose you could run to the fridge. Me beer needs topping up and me legs hurt from today's 6km walk in the park.

Considering the obvious source, yet another effort in futility. Fyi ~ you suppose wrongly, paison, Don't make the mistake of taking post #94 out of context. I just give credit to people, whenever such credit is due. Period! Capisce?