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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    In 2003?

    Why?
    ...memories are long in the Gulf...humiliations are forever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...memories are long in the Gulf...humiliations are forever...
    Nope. Just plain wrong.

    There was no military reason to invade Iraq. Saddam was no threat to anyone but his local Shi'a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Russia stopped them from reaching the sight of the gassing.
    I presume you have the required link, this is worldnews, or is this just an opinion you've thrown in here for 'arry to repeat and hence make it fact?

    3...... 2........1

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Exactly as I predicted.
    You along with 1,000s of others good catch 'arry.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They are probably just smoke. Explosives burn hot you moron.
    Wow you read my posts, excellent. The heat burns things and the polluted air drifts away with the wind. I learnt that at 6 years old as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    showing clouds of finely powdered chemicals/chemical vapour trials/burning chemical smoke from the alleged targets
    Looks like smoke trailing away so yes some sort of smoke. Good catch 'arry. I'm more concerned with the CW burning and being carries away by the hot air. Killing whoever is downwind. But I'm sure some politician believes "it's worth it" once again.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    you've heard of "Due Process", right
    You ain't a lawyer are you 'arry? The next thing you will want pesky evidence to be included in your "due process".

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I very much doubt the chemicals in a chemical laboratory facility were ready mixed
    We are talking about Assad and Putin here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Randomly creating chemical clouds with the addition of TNT is generally not a good way to make these weapons
    I don't know the chemistry too well but heating air, by causing explosions and combining the hot or very hot air with a CW I would suggest evaporates the liquid ones, carries the "jet milled" micro particle ones or aerosol born ones along with it, seem plausible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Good old USA, watch out Saudi Arabia you will be next for waging chemical warfare against Yemen
    Already introduced biological weapons causing thousands of Yemeni civilians to die. But the "oh so concerned" world is suspiciously silent on the good SA government, the ameristani handlers and the European weapon suppliers.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They had fair warning and they can't hide what they did
    Fair warning, illegal use of lethal weapons on a foreign countries citizens is actually frowned on by most 'arry.

    Not when they invite the investigators in ....... no.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    "I can guarantee that Russia has not tampered with the site," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the BBC.
    And I can guarantee he's a lying fucker.

    EXACTLY As predicted, it's "not safe" for the OPCW to go to the site until tomorrow.

    Plenty of time for a good cleanup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And I can guarantee he's a lying fucker.
    Of course he is.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    EXACTLY As predicted, it's "not safe" for the OPCW to go to the site until tomorrow.
    Not safe for chemical weapons experts. Right...

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    I see France is now saying that evidence of the "Suspected" chemical attack is likely to disappear before the inspectors can get there.

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mi...-idUKKBN1HO1HK

    Or could it possibly be that they will find nothing because there was nothing there to find which would make France look foolish for going off half cocked without any proof whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Plenty of time for a good cleanup.
    Fcuk, Harry you really are funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    EXACTLY As predicted, it's "not safe" for the OPCW to go to the site until tomorrow.
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Not safe for chemical weapons experts. Right...


    OPCW chemical weapons inspectors enter Douma – Syrian state media

    "A team of inspectors from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) has arrived in the Syrian town of Douma, to investigate a reported attack from two weeks ago, Syrian state media reported.

    The team arrived in Syria earlier this week, but its deployment on the ground in the Damascus suburb was slowed down by "security concerns." Douma was freed by Syrian government forces last week, after a Russia-brokered agreement with Jaysh al-Islam militants occupying the town resulted in their mass evacuation to Syria's north. Civilians who had been forced to endure life under the militants left the town through humanitarian corridors in their thousands."

    https://www.rt.com/news/424384-opcw-chemical-inspectors-enter-douma/

    International chemicals' experts enter Douma

    "AMMAN, April 17 (KUNA) -- The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons team entered the town of Douma in East Ghouta on Tuesday, the state-run Syrian Television said.

    The team arrived in Syria on April 14 and held talks with Syrian officials, with participation of Russian officers. Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Al-Moqdad, who led he talks with the international experts, said the team mission would be facilitated.

    Douma reportedly was targeted with a chemical attack on April 7 leaving scores of people killed, injured or suffering from suffocation.
    Both the Syrian regime and the opposition have traded accusations as which party was responsible for the deadly attack."


    https://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2719754&Language=en#

    OPCW chemical weapons investigators enter Douma

    "Syrian state media said on Tuesday that investigators had entered the town outside Damascus.

    "Experts from the chemical weapons committee enter the town of Douma," state news agency SANA wrote."

    https://news.sky.com/story/opcw-chemical-weapons-investigators-enter-douma-11334938


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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    is highly likely to disappear
    FIFY xxxx

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    I think we've been rogered (again) with wilful misinformation from our own (elected) leaders striking recklessly and with impunity at a nation that is incapable of retaliation, to be seen as 'ard, and knowing they can control the release of info on grounds of national security.

    Unfortunately the EU wasn't directly involved, otherwise it would have been more obvious.

    And still in shock that the French didn't surrender!

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    A notice on the OPCW site regarding a meeting held on the 14th.

    https://www.opcw.org/news/article/op...ting-on-syria/


    One delegates speech at the meeting:

    https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/...l_16_April.pdf

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    Same old same old.

    I see one of the options Syria tried to palm them off with was to stay in Damascus and meet 22 "witnesses".
    Fucking hell, they must be thick as fucking shit if they think anyone would fall for that one.



    OPCW personnel arrived in Syria on Saturday to investigate a suspected chemical weapons attack in Douma, which the United States and other Western countries say was committed by the Assad regime. After five days of delay in Syria and 11 days since the attack itself, the OPCW appeared to have finally “entered” Douma on Tuesday, according to Syrian state TV.
    Russia had previously said the investigators would be allowed to access the site of the attack on Wednesday and it was not immediately clear whether their work would begin on Tuesday or Wednesday. The OPCW has so far not independently confirmed reports of their team's arrival.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7fb5ac5ee16a
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    If the other "sources" had accredited staff in Syria, as opposed to copying from a web page, they may have been able to confirm and even clarify the situation/announcement. But that would involve effort.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    If the other "sources" had accredited staff in Syria, as opposed to copying from a web page, they may have been able to confirm and even clarify the situation/announcement. But that would involve effort.

    If you put as much effort into finding facts as you do quoting Russian bullshit and making up stories, you'd be a fucking genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Exactly the responce I excpected from you. Apples and oranges, I think Tomcat has a plausible answer to your question but any similarity between Iraq and Syria is not there. The invasion of Iraq was with the intention of a regime change,not so with the limited precision bombing that was done in Syria. Now I asked again,in all seriousness what motive would these countries have in bombing the selective Syrian targets if there was not credible evidence of Syria gassing civilians?
    Are you being delibertely obtuse or just clumsily trolling?
    Nobody's comparing Iraq to Syria.
    I am giving you an example of how governments, particularly the US government in this case, lie to the public and offer false "evidence" to motivate support for their political, military, and military-industrial ambitions, not to mention whatever Israel wants them to do. Whether it's WOMD in Iraq or chemical weapons in Syria.

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    It was a short walk to Dr Rahaibani. From the door of his subterranean clinic – “Point 200”, it is called, in the weird geology of this partly-underground city – is a corridor leading downhill where he showed me his lowly hospital and the few beds where a small girl was crying as nurses treated a cut above her eye.

    “I was with my family in the basement of my home three hundred metres from here on the night but all the doctors know what happened. There was a lot of shelling [by government forces] and aircraft were always over Douma at night – but on this night, there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived. People began to arrive here suffering from hypoxia, oxygen loss. Then someone at the door, a “White Helmet”, shouted “Gas!”, and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other. Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.”


    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8307726.html

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    It's still fucking laughable no matter how many threads you post it in.

    Hypoxia!


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's still fucking laughable no matter how many threads you post it in.

    Hypoxia!
    harry, it's still fucking laughable no matter how many laugh smilies you post and much you insult those you disagree with that you so easily believe the pentagon when it says it has evidence that assad used chemical weapons in douma.

    and, when the Pentagon is asked by a reporter to show the evidence, the pentagon spokesman says it's top secret, classified, blah, blah, blah.



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Hypoxia!
    not sure why you're laughing, harry.

    robert fisk is a respected journalist (reporting from the m.e. for 40+ years) and he reported from on the ground in douma.

    it's definitely a theory worth considering, IMO.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8307726.html

    It was a short walk to Dr Rahaibani. From the door of his subterranean clinic – “Point 200”, it is called, in the weird geology of this partly-underground city – is a corridor leading downhill where he showed me his lowly hospital and the few beds where a small girl was crying as nurses treated a cut above her eye.


    “I was with my family in the basement of my home three hundred metres from here on the night but all the doctors know what happened. There was a lot of shelling [by government forces] and aircraft were always over Douma at night – but on this night, there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived. People began to arrive here suffering from hypoxia, oxygen loss.

    Then someone at the door, a “White Helmet”, shouted “Gas!”, and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other. Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.”


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    Harry the Trump apologist prefers the fake news version he gets from the Twitterati where America is the champion of justice and Wog land is there for target practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Harry the Trump apologist prefers the fake news version he gets from the Twitterati where America is the champion of justice and Wog land is there for target practice.
    The Putin girls choir talking about fake news.

    Priceless!


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    So Russia controls Douma, and apparently it's not safe enough for the OPCW.

    But it's safe enough for them to bring Poolside journo and career American hater Fisk there to declare it "Fake News".

    And the Putin girls choir don't suspect a thing.

    What a bunch of morons.


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    And yet more lies from the Putin girls choir:

    Syria's UN ambassador told the United Nations Security Council Tuesday that a UN security team traveled to the town of Douma, outside capital Damascus, to ascertain whether it was safe for global chemical weapons experts to visit the site of a suspected chemical weapons attack last week that killed dozens.
    Bashar Ja'afari said if the team decides "the situation is sound," the fact-finding mission from the international chemical weapons watchdog — Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons — will start work there Wednesday.
    Earlier on Tuesday, Syrian state media falsely reported that members of the world's chemical weapons watchdog had entered Douma.
    Syria: Chemical weapons experts await UN security team clearance to enter Douma | News | DW | 18.04.2018

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    dumber than snub... you have at least proved something to us harry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    dumber than snub... you have at least proved something to us harry
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And the Putin girls choir don't suspect a thing.
    No surprise there. To busy slurping up Putin man juice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    dumber than snub...
    I would say that by preponderance of the evidence you are the dumb brainwashed fool. Your tin foil hat has long ago choked off the oxygen to what few brain cells you have left.
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