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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    The US was never loosing in Vietnam.
    of course, that's why you had to flee like little girls

    oh I forgot, the Washington Post made you lost the war

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Friday evening, the United States launched missile strikes on Syria in response to a chemical weapons attack brought by Assad's regime on Syrian civilians.

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    I agree. I remember Tricky Dick's famous (post ass-kicked) pretentious statement "we now desire only peace, .........with honour" plea, to the Vietnamese people. Embarrassing, to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen View Post
    "we now desire only peace, .........with honour"
    ...doubt the Trickster would have used provincial spelling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ...Delattre said France, Britain and the United States will soon be presenting the Security Council with a new draft resolution aimed at achieving a lasting solution to the Syrian conflict that addresses political, chemical and humanitarian issues...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/un-reject...183048462.html
    Hurry up, my face is turning blue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    The US was never loosing in Vietnam.
    Won every major battle, knobbled by its own people, between sad and pathetic.

    But a great war record since, showed determination after Beirut by absolutely overwhelming the Grenadan rowboat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Your ok with Syria using nerve gas on civilians?
    1 - Was gas used?
    2 - Was it nerve gas?
    3 - By the Syrian gov?
    4 - On its own civilians?
    5 - Who told you that?
    6 - Do you believe it?
    7 - Might they be wrong, or have reason to lie?
    8 - Do you still believe it?

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    THE LAST HELICOPTER: EVACUATING SAIGON


    An Air America helicopter crew member helps evacuees up a ladder on the roof of 18 Gia Long Street on April 29, 1975, shortly before the city fell to advancing North Vietnamese troops.

    The Last Helicopter: Evacuating Saigon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Won every major battle
    Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Hurry up, my face is turning blue...
    You consider that an incentive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    5 - Who told you that?
    6 - Do you believe it?
    7 - Might they be wrong, or have reason to lie?
    yep, some just seem to automatically believe what is told to them like about saddam's wmd.

    at the pentagon press briefing, a question is asked about why no evidence is being shown (34:35 minute mark):

    http://www.defense.gov/Videos/videoid/594372/
    Last edited by Farangrakthai; 15-04-2018 at 12:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    You consider that an incentive?
    To hurry up with the easy bit and provide the solutions, yes, and then explain why they sat on it for so many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    believe what is told to you by the uk/us mainstream media?
    quick as lightning to always absolve Russia and its puppets of any wrong doing. But what else to expect from a Russian apologist. It is predictable as the sunrise.
    how am i a russian apologist, pray tell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    How clear and right was Khaddafi at the UN General Assembly when he tore the whole UN Charter and spoke out his mind (the ones he addressed did not listened anyway, left the auditorium straight away)
    The Syrian delegate at UNSC has brought in 3 copies of UN Charter, two in English, one in French language. Wondering whether the ones who act on behalf of UN "humanitarian help" have ever read it? (and understand it?)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    The Syrian delegate at UNSC has brought in 3 copies of UN Charter, two in English, one in French language. Wondering whether the ones who act on behalf of UN "humanitarian help" have ever read it? (and understand it?)
    You haven't, have you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    how am i a russian apologist, pray tell?
    The campaign to demonize 'Russia" and anything associated with same appears to be working well
    Guess the "fake news" campaign was losing steam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    The campaign to demonize 'Russia" and anything associated with same appears to be working well
    ...and quite effortlessly as well...Putin's not nearly as crafty as his oligarchs would have the world believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Vassily Nebenzia
    Had that once back in me Navy days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...and quite effortlessly as well...Putin's not nearly as crafty as his oligarchs would have the world believe...
    Seeing what he could get away with I think. There are limits.

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    ^^^ I'm not so sure about the 'effortlessly" bit? Since Trump got into power those dam Russkies have had their sticky little fingers in a lot of pies, possibly because the great war machine that the USA has become could see that Trump, if not pushed might actually talk to them as fellow human beings and we could all live happily thereafter
    Or maybe not!
    The one small problem I have with the whole Syria gassing s and other incidents is that they are guilty before a shred of evidence is produced, it remains that way. We all are aware that there are is no longer such a thing as "reporters" we have only repeaters that repeat what they are told by the central news networks, namely Associated press & Reuters, who are obviously owned by the same people, last thing we need is any competition in shaping our viewpoint.
    Apart from these small points I have no problem continuing the demonisation, they all eat far too much beetroot IMHO anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    We all are aware
    ...so, you're royalty then...

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    Russian propaganda machine is in top gear now.
    'Complete nonsense': How Russian media covered the air strikes in Syria
    Russian news channels were quick on the trigger when reports came in that US missiles were being fired into Syria.


    Images of missiles streaking across the night sky were broadcast across the main news channels. MPs woke from their slumbers and lashed out at the West in live interviews.


    Limited strikes aim to limit retaliation


    The US-led missile strikes on chemical weapons targets went further than the attacks of 12 months ago, but the impact is far less than the "World War III" many feared.
    Watching back-to-back hours of state TV through the day, it was easy to get the feeling that Russia was itself at war.


    News programs do tend to follow the official line quite closely, but in this case there was no daylight between the Government and the media.


    Official Russian reaction to the strikes centres on the claim by authorities that the alleged chemical attack in the Damascus suburb of Douma was staged by a volunteer emergency services group called the White Helmets.


    They, in turn, were pressured to fake the attack by the UK, the Russian Defence Ministry alleges.


    The theory had a certain resonance on the state-controlled First Channel.

    "Theresa May, who was clearly nervous and constantly sipping from her glass, tried to explain why a fake from the White Helmets is a reason to bomb a sovereign government," said a reporter, over images of the British PM lifting a glass to her lips at a press conference.


    "But it didn't really work out. Most Britons are against the strikes."


    The US and its allies say Damascus carried out the reported chemical attack, with France pointing to open source images and intelligence gathering.

    Time and time again, however, the alleged chemical attacks are referred to on Russian state media as "fake" or "staged".


    There is, quite simply, no room for doubt.


    At a press conference in the Defence Ministry's sprawling building on the Moscow river, a spokesman explained on Friday how a group of people with video cameras charged into the local hospital in Douma, yelling and causing panic.


    He said they then started dousing patients with water.

    In the Defence Ministry interviews, the two men introduced as medical staff at the hospital point themselves out in the footage, saying they witnessed the fake display take place.


    "This is grotesque, it is a blatant lie," Britain's Ambassador to the UN Karen Pierce said later.


    "It is the worst piece of fake news we've seen yet from the propaganda machine."


    Yet, it's very much a mainstream viewpoint, and one held by experts too.

    "For a Russian observer it's pretty clear [the alleged attack] was pretty much staged by the opposition, and the way the Western powers reacted just shows that they're very vulnerable to provocation," foreign policy analyst Andrei Sushentsov said.


    "It could have led to a direct military clash with Russia which is a pretty irresponsible move in my view."


    TV in Russia has real influence, particularly in the provinces, where people have little access to independent media.


    "It's nonsense, complete nonsense. It is completely made up," Oleg Berezin, 40, said of the reported chemical attacks.


    "And [the strikes] are just another pretence for the Americans to show off."


    Russian authorities appear convinced an information war is underway, and they are determined to give as good as, they feel, they get.


    On a nearly two-hour special program of the political talk-show 60 Minutes, regular guest and spokeswoman for the Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova gave a stinging interview.


    "We have long maintained that the information published in the Western press should be a little closer to reality," she said.


    "The mass media is just a gang organised by Western political forces and their propaganda machine."
    'Complete nonsense': How Russian media covered the air strikes in Syria - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...so, you're royalty then...
    I'm not a "queen" if thats what your asking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    The one small problem I have with the whole Syria gassing s and other incidents is that they are guilty before a shred of evidence is produced
    Not true. They smuggle out photos, videos, even hair and blood samples.

    But the Putin girls choir would rather dismiss that as "not evidence" and instantly believe the Russian "It never happened" bollocks.

    It's why the OPCW need to get in there quick before the Syrians and Russians have a chance to clean things up - and if the Syrians can't do it in time, you can bet they will "come under fire from terrorists" or Syria will say it isn't safe.

    This is all so predictable - because it's happened before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They smuggle out photos, videos, even hair and blood samples.
    And each one comes with a certificate of authenticity.

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