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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    It had to be. The remorse will come few years how the poor Chemical Lady was misled (similarly like her pal Tony)...
    After all, no war has been started without a good and peace-loving purpose...
    yep, you have to wonder how many of those saying assad did it also bought the lies from the neo-cons about saddam's wmd.

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    Syrian air strike should happen if evidence is found – former ambassador

    As investigations into the alleged chemical attack in Syria continue, western nations hesitate to join the US in strikes on Syria. Former US Ambassador to the UN Bill Richardson joins RT America’s Ed Schultz to discuss what he thinks should happen next.


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    Germany, Italy, Netherlands & Canada vow not to strike Syria, call for thorough investigation

    Some of America's key partners are not so keen to launch a strike on Syria - with Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Canada all stating there needs to be a thorough investigation first.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    how do you know that?
    it was 10 klms from damascus

    Syrian gas attack: Little-known Eastern Ghouta has become the focal point of ongoing conflict - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

    and asshat would have shot down anyone else popping in for a quick bombing of the area

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    Already more than 100 years ago was a good cause for starting a war against Spain: explosion and sinking of USS Maine in Havana port. OOps, it was just an overheated boiler under the board...

    Never mind, after all, some goodies resulted out of those "consequences"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    yep, you have to wonder how many of those saying assad did it also bought the lies from the neo-cons about saddam's wmd.
    I am starting to see a pattern here. You definitely a product of the infowars/RT/Sputnik/breitbart propaganda stream. BTW before you waste the time I never supported the war in Iraq.

    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    and asshat would have shot down anyone else popping in for a quick bombing of the area
    Also important to note that it would have been impossible to kill and wound that many people dispersing the gas from the ground which is the only way the rebels could have done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    yep, you have to wonder how many of those saying assad did it also bought the lies from the neo-cons about saddam's wmd.
    I never supported the war in Iraq.
    though, you think assad is responsible for a recent chemical weapon attack?

    how do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    It had to be. The remorse will come few years later how the poor Chemical Lady was misled (similarly like her pal Tony)...
    After all, no war has been started without a good and peace-loving purpose...
    Yeah, unfortunately the dozen or more other chemical attacks Assad has carried out over the last five or six years makes your stupid dog whistling irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    how do you know?
    Logical deduction. Clearly a trait you are lacking.

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    At least now we can go back to Russia pretending they are protecting poor Syrian civilians while Assad is bombing the shit out of them with conventional arms.

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    A veritable golden shower of them. Is that a PISS take??
    Last edited by mcgoo; 14-04-2018 at 04:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Logical deduction. Clearly a trait you are lacking.
    why can't you have a debate with someone you disagree with, without hurling insults?

    did you learn this behavior playing online vdo games with kids every night while getting drunk?

    anyways:

    1. the organization for the prevention of chemical weapons (OPCW) hasn't even started their investigation, yet.

    2. maybe you've forgotten that mattis said a couple months ago that it hasn't been proven that the assad government was behind the last gas attack:

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    If you are stupid enough to believe anything that Russia says. But then again you are that stupid.
    Now Mattis Admits There Was No Evidence Assad Used Poison Gas on His People: Opinion

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    Serious, experienced chemical weapons experts and investigators such as Hans Blix, Scott Ritter, Gareth Porter and Theodore Postol have all cast doubt on “official” American narratives regarding President Assad employing Sarin.These analysts have all focused on the technical aspects of the two attacks and found them not to be consistent with the use of nation-state quality Sarin munitions.


    The White House Memorandum on Khan Sheikhoun seemed to rely heavily on testimony from the Syrian White Helmets who were filmed at the scene having contact with supposed Sarin-tainted casualties and not suffering any ill effects.

    Likewise, these same actors were filmed wearing chemical weapons training suits around the supposed “point of impact” in Khan Sheikhoun, something which makes their testimony (and samples) highly suspect. A training suit offers no protection at all, and these people would all be dead if they had come into contact with real military-grade Sarin.
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    You fucking losers. I make my living off video games and the community around them.
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    You knuckle draggers ever hear of twitch.com?

    No wonder I drive a tesla and the house I bought ten years ago is worth over a million bucks.

    You clowns are lost. Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    why can't you have a debate with someone you disagree with, without hurling insults?
    That was not an insult. I will entertain you..

    So who did it then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    So who did it then?
    don't know and will wait for the OPCW to finish its investigation.

    while you're sure it wasn't Jaysh al-Islam (the islamic terrorists) who did it.

    i don't think it was the assad forces as they were just about finished defeating the terrorists in that area.

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    the one thing I know for sure it was not the rebels that used it. That shit ain't flying.
    Syria war: What we know about Douma 'chemical attack' - BBC News

    In March, troops split the region into three pockets - the largest of which was around Douma, home to between 80,000 and 150,000 people. Facing defeat, rebel groups in the other two pockets agreed to be evacuated to northern Syria.

    But the group controlling Douma, Jaysh al-Islam, continued to hold out. On Friday, after negotiations with the government stalled, air strikes resumed.

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    President Assad arrives for work today ... [Video]

    https://twitter.com/Presidency_Sy/st...35128794644480

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    while you're sure it wasn't Jaysh al-Islam (the islamic terrorists) who did it.
    ISIS has never been able to manufacture Sarin gas. If they could they would have used it. Jaysh has nowhere near the capability of IS so assuming they are to blame defies logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    i don't think it was the assad forces as they were just about finished defeating the terrorists in that area.
    That really is an absurd statement. Assad is a sociopath who gains pleasure from punishing those who oppose him regardless of whether they are rebels or civilians. It is no different from Saddam gassing the Kurds. Forgot about this;


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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    That really is an absurd statement. Assad is a sociopath who gains pleasure from punishing those who oppose him regardless of whether they are rebels or civilians.
    well, bsnub. unless you think the the west should do in syria what it did in iraq (us/uk invasion and occupation), then your feelings about assad don't really matter.

    trump should follow his instincts and withdraw all u.s personnel from syria (it was the cia which initiated the civil war, as is known) and let syria (with help from iran and russia) retake all of its territory from terrorists.

    while the us/uk can spend their time/resources helping iraq and afghanistan to stabilize and defeat terrorists, if the brits and yanks so desire.

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ISIS has never been able to manufacture Sarin gas. If they could they would have used it. Jaysh has nowhere near the capability of IS so assuming they are to blame defies logic.
    the white helmets smelled chlorine, apparently. no proof of sarin being used, afaik.

    anyways, i'm no chemical weapons expert, of course. so, i'll go with what scott ritter (i followed while opposing the iraq war before the us/uk invasion) has written about the alleged chemical weapons use in syria:

    Trump?s Rush to Judgment on Syria Chemical Attack |

    Giving the OPCW time to carry out its investigation in Syria would allow a fact-based case to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Germany, Italy, Netherlands & Canada vow not to strike Syria, call for thorough investigation
    German Chancellor Angela Merkel has backed the actions of the US, Britain and France, saying that the strikes were "necessary and appropriate" to warn against the further use of chemical weapons.
    ONTARIO - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has expressed his support for punitive strikes carried out by the US, Britain and France against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime.
    "Canada supports the decision by the United States, the United Kingdom, and France to take action to degrade the Assad regime's ability to launch chemical weapons attacks against its own people," Trudeau said in a statement Friday.
    etc. etc.

    LIVE: World reacts after US, UK, France hit Syria in overnight strikes | Middle East Eye
    Canada backs Western strikes on Syria: PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I am starting to see a pattern here. You definitely a product of the infowars/RT/Sputnik/breitbart propaganda stream.
    so, bsnub:

    do you think General Jonathan Shaw (previously mentioned), The former commander of British Forces in Iraq is a product of the infowars/RT/Sputnik/breitbart propaganda stream?


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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    • Images of things going ... KABOOM.



    The Pentagon said the US and its allies fired more than 100 missiles from ships and aircraft.
    They are using the famous B1 Bomber


    It could not confirm how many missiles hit their targets.

    A pro-Assad official said about 30 missiles were fired at Syria and that about a third were shot down.
    (looks like they actually got a few!)


    Several explosions were heard in Damascus. Black plumes of smoke were seen rising from in the east,
    and the sky turned orange.



    After the attack finished vehicles with loudspeakers roamed the capital's streets blaring nationalist songs.


    In a tweet, Syrian opposition leader Nasra al-Hariri called for an end to what he described as all attacks against
    civilians by the Syrian state and its allies, whether using chemical or conventional weapons.


    "Maybe the regime will not use chemical weapons again, but it will not hesitate to use weapons the international
    community has allowed it, such as barrel bombs and cluster bombs," Mr Hariri said.

    The US/UK probably killed more civilians in a couple of hours than the alleged gas used allegedly by Assad allegedly against his own civilians for reasons not even our hysterical media tries to explain. But we should be thankful they weren't gassed.

    My guess is sphincters are tightening in UK and US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    yep, you have to wonder how many of those saying assad did it also bought the lies from the neo-cons about saddam's wmd.
    they are the same idiots who fell for the Iraq lies

    99% of the population is stupid and easy to manipulate, that's why our leaders keep trying and trying with the same lies, it always works

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    yep, i recall being called "anti-american" for opposing the us/uk invasion of iraq.

    every day in the months leading up to the invasion, every u.s. news channel had retired generals with maps and figures, talking about how dangerous saddam was.

    after a few months of that, most americans actually thought saddam was involved in 911.



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...=.e6398ee60359

    September 6, 2003

    Nearing the second anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, seven in 10 Americans continue to believe that Iraq's Saddam Hussein had a role in the attacks, even though the Bush administration and congressional investigators say they have no evidence of this.

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    people are what we call "ordinary authoritarians", it's a mind condition pre-disposed to manipulation and lies, that's how most people are programmed

    stupidity is very dangerous,

    normal people can be led to mass murder and justify the killing of innocent people by simple orders from a higher authority

    this is how we can explain how good peaceful people became Nazi,

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    I feel a another blowback scenario in your futures.

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    I bet Harry would make an excellent executioner in Iraq or Syria

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