Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I suppose they were the only two people that had shellfish at a seafood restaurant that day.

Others could have eaten the same but

Fact: Sometimes only one person gets sick after eating a shared food item that was contaminated.
The details: Most of the time you cannot tell what it was that made you sick. Remember: It might not have even been the food that made you sick. You might have gotten it some other way. But let’s say that somehow we know for sure the germ that made you sick came from food. Well, sometimes more than one person can eat the same contaminated food and only one person will get sick. Or one person gets much sicker than someone else (see Myth No. 3). There are lots of reasons for this.
Maybe the person who got sick was fighting off a different illness or was felling stressed or tired, so his or her germ-fighting immune system wasn’t up to par. At the same time, maybe everyone else did swallow the germs, but their immune systems fought it off before the germs made them sick.
Maybe the people who didn’t get sick actually were sick with a bout or two of diarrhea but didn’t think to mention it. (A lot of people focus on the vomiting and forget or are embarrassed to mention anything about diarrhea.)
Or maybe there was a pocket of food that was more heavily contaminated, and the person who got sick drew the “unlucky” card.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...poisoning.html

And the other Russian spy Glushkov died nearby - no worry about his death? A right hand of poor late Berezovsky.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rdered-but-why

The Russian dissident found strangled in his home had been in a gay relationship for years, it emerged yesterday.

Nikolai Glushkov, 68, was found strangled on Monday last week, the same day as Theresa May issued an ultimatum to Russia over the Salisbury nerve agent attack. The Metropolitan Police began a murder inquiry after a post-mortem examination concluded he had died of compression to the neck.The Russian dissident found strangled in his home had been in a gay relationship for years, it emerged yesterday.

Nikolai Glushkov, 68, was found strangled on Monday last week, the same day as Theresa May issued an ultimatum to Russia over the Salisbury nerve agent attack. The Metropolitan Police began a murder inquiry after a post-mortem examination concluded he had died of compression to the neck.

A friend of Mr Glushkov, who has a son and daughter from a previous marriage, said that he had been in a relationship with Denis Trushin, aged in his twenties, for several years. The friend said: “He was gay and he was involved with Denis. Denis was his boyfriend. They were a steady couple.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...over-7200x88jq

Why Mr. Putin does not allow the mother to her son? (Or somebody else does?)

'I do not represent any danger to anyone': Sergei Skripal's 90-year-old mother makes tearful Russian state TV appeal for the chance to speak to her ex-spy son after his hospital release
Yelena Skripal, 89, claims she has not been allowed to speak to her son Sergei
Russian ex-spy and his daughter poisoned in Salisbury, UK, using nerve agent
Skripal and daughter Yulia, 33, have since been discharged from hospital
Mother Skripal appeared on Russian TV and begged to speak to her son

Yelena Skripal - who will be 90 next month - claims the UK has been stopping her from speaking to her son, who was discharged from hospital last week.

She accuses the UK of preventing Skripal from contacting his family in Russia, adding: 'Please, allow me to make just one phone call with my son.
'But why don't they allow him to phone. Why? What is the reason?
'After all, when he was at home we used to talk every week. And now for some reason, we are not allowed to talk.
'I ask for him to be allowed to talk to me.'

Read more: Poisoned ex-spy Sergei Skripal's mother in Russian state TV appeal | Daily Mail Online
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She does not know why. Just ask 'arry...

Maybe the poison affected his power of speech ? As a nerve agent, it may well have affected either his brain or his larynx / physical articulation.

Originally Posted by Begbie

I’m sure most people would agree with that being the likeliest explanation. The question then is why did the security services concoct the Novichok story? I suspect it’s a symptom of the incompetence that characterizes the upper echelons of government in the UK. Once they’d made the hasty and poorly supported CW claim, they were too stupid to retract it.

I think it's more cynic than that, Maybot "special services" saw an opportunity to "attack" Putin on a false pretense, probably as retaliation for something else we don't know about, or weak Russian position just before a vote to attack Syria etc...

it's a silly spying game, all losing in an endless and pointless game

^
She doesn't need glasses anymore either. May be 'SpecSave' needs to diversify and sell Novichok?

German Officials Admit 'Still No Evidence' From UK That Russia Poisoned Skripals




It seems notably fortuitous that the world is now distracted with the ongoing actions surrounding President Trump - whether in Quebec tweet-slamming PM Trudeau, or in Singapore ahead of his historic summit with North Korea's Kim Jong Un

We say 'fortuitous' since it offers UK PM Theresa May some breathing room as her dramatic, quickly determined, and globally propagandized claims that Russia was the culprit for the poisoning of the Russian ex-agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter; remain entirely unsubstantiated by any proof.

However, just as May was hoping the world had forgot dozens of nations expelled hundreds of Russian diplomats on nothing more than her word and the constant Russophobic narrative pumped thru the eyeballs and earholes of the rest of the world; the Germans just threw a rather loud wrench in the slient-running PR campaign that has taken the Skripal-murdering Putin off the frontpage.

German media reports that the German government has zero evidence from the British authorities that could back London’s claims that Moscow was behind the poisoning of the Skripals

More than three months since the start of the probe into the poisoning of former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia, RT reports that the UK is still conspicuously tight-lipped when it comes to any real evidence that could prove its accusations against Russia.

This week, the German government informed a parliamentary oversight committee during a closed hearing that it still has not received any evidence suggesting that Russia might well be behind the incident that took place in early March, German TV station RBB reports.

“It is [still] only known that the poison used in the attack was a nerve agent called Novichok, which was once produced in the Soviet Union,” Michael Goetschenberg, a correspondent of German ARD and an expert on security services, told RBB, commenting on the results of the hearing, which he is familiar with.

Apart from this information, which was released by the British authorities soon after the incident, no new data on Russia’s alleged implication in this case was provided to Germany so far, he added.



German intelligence has also found no Russian trace in this case so far, Goetschenberg said.

“The BND, Germany’s foreign intelligence… has also contacted its own sources and tried to verify the information [about Russia’s potential involvement] in some way,” he told RBB, adding that it eventually failed to find any evidence pointing to Moscow as well.

Russia has categorically denied any involvement, and has complained that the victims were not allowed visits by Russian lawyers and diplomats, and the results of the investigation were kept secret. The Russian envoy to the UK has on several occasions alleged that London was even trying to “destroy” evidence in the probe.

Just days ago, Scotland Yard said it was still following multiple leads in the investigation, adding that it still “cannot discuss the results at this stage.” The probe has already cost £7.5 million ($10 million) to British taxpayers, according to the region’s police and crime commissioner.

Meanwhile, both Sergei and Yulia Skripal have been released from the hospital, seemingly no worse for the attampted assassination using the world's most deadly nerve agent.

Are we still supposed to believe that Vladimir Putin - the man who western media and politicians blame for meddling with US elections to get Trump elected, manipulating French elections (unsuccessfully), murdering reporters (that actually came back to life), causing Brexit, killing millions in Syria (and anywhere else that US hegemony is bring back democracy), enabling an entire nation's athletes to take steroids, and probably causing LeBron and the Cavs to get swept - managed to mess up the delivery of a deadly military grade nerve agent to kill an old man and a young woman?"

https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/german-officials-admit-still-no-evidence-uk-russia-poisoned-skripals/ri23765



Must keep this off the front pages.

"russia-insider.com".

Do you *ever* use a proper fucking website son?

There are links in the post to the German version, you would of course need to read the post prior to posting your informative reply.

I thought i had included it but it doesn't appear to be there. here it is for you.

https://www.inforadio.de/programm/sc...07/242933.html

Originally Posted by OhOh

There are links in the post to the German version, you would of course need to read the post prior to posting your informative reply.

I thought i had included it but it doesn't appear to be there. here it is for you.

https://www.inforadio.de/programm/sc...07/242933.html

Since you made such a dog and pony show of claiming your "criteria" before believing a news story, I'd suggest you fucking use them.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

a dog and pony show of claiming your "criteria"

?????

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Why Mr. Putin does not allow the mother to her son? (Or somebody else does?)

'I do not represent any danger to anyone': Sergei Skripal's 90-year-old mother makes tearful Russian state TV appeal for the chance to speak to her ex-spy son after his hospital release
Yelena Skripal, 89, claims she has not been allowed to speak to her son Sergei
Russian ex-spy and his daughter poisoned in Salisbury, UK, using nerve agent
Skripal and daughter Yulia, 33, have since been discharged from hospital
Mother Skripal appeared on Russian TV and begged to speak to her son

Yelena Skripal - who will be 90 next month - claims the UK has been stopping her from speaking to her son, who was discharged from hospital last week.

She accuses the UK of preventing Skripal from contacting his family in Russia, adding: 'Please, allow me to make just one phone call with my son.
'But why don't they allow him to phone. Why? What is the reason?
'After all, when he was at home we used to talk every week. And now for some reason, we are not allowed to talk.
'I ask for him to be allowed to talk to me.'

Read more: Poisoned ex-spy Sergei Skripal's mother in Russian state TV appeal | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

She does not know why. Just ask 'arry...

That sounds like utter bullshit.

Originally Posted by Cujo

That sounds like utter bullshit.

it may or not be true, as you suggest, but until you investigate the claim and either agree or confirms it's bullshit, your adding nothing.

Wonder how much George got paid for that one. I didn't realise he was a Russian lackey now that the Mussies have kicked him out.

I’m not going to play that video. George is a mouth for hire, an arsehole only looking to further inflate his gross ego and his bank account.

Originally Posted by OhOh

?????

Oh I'm not wasting my time trawling for any of your dross posts.

It was something about "two named government officals and blah blah blah".

Fucking hell, I know you don't read what others write before you go off one one, but don't you even remember all the shit you post yourself?

Originally Posted by Neverna

Pies. Bloody British pies. That's what did it.

Can't get enough of them.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wonder how much George got paid for that one. I didn't realise he was a Russian lackey now that the Mussies have kicked him out.

More surprises are on the way.

^Who has guts like him to call the things by their real names?

If somebody says things uncomfortable to hear, the best is to leave the scene - and not to listen.
Like some delegations (please no names here) at the UN General Assembly when Khaddafi told them the things...

Russian Embassy Urges US to Destroy Chemical Stockpile



"MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russia’s Embassy in Washington demanded Thursday that the United States destroy its chemical weapons and reveal what it knows about the notorious Novichok toxin, allegedly used in an attack on a Russian ex-spy in Salisbury.


The call was made a day after the US Department of State denied an accusation by a Russian general that US special operations forces were plotting a fake chemical attack in eastern Syria to frame the Syrian government.

"Even [the Department of State] cannot deny any CW [chemical weapons] provocation in Syria having the same scenario Let's remind you about the loud exposure of the staged Douma 'attack’. Reveal US 'Novichok' files! Destroy your CW stockpiles!" the embassy tweeted.

The United States has several times postponed the destruction of its chemical weapons cache after initially vowing to get rid of it by 2007. The next deadline is in five years. Russia has destroyed some 40,000 tonnes of chemical agents between 2002 and 2017."

https://sputniknews.com/us/201806151065426595-russia-urges-usa-destroy-chemical/

Or is this another legally binding, international agreement thrown in ameristanis ever growing shipping container?

Cover-up? Twitter reacts to report that UK government will buy Skripal’s house

"The house of Sergei Skripal will be purchased by UK taxpayers, according to officials cited by The Sunday Times. The move has prompted a range of responses online – from cover-up allegations to jokes about home ownership.

Taxpayers will be footing the bill for Skripal’s home, which is expected to be bought by the UK government for around £350,000 (US$464,000), The Sunday Times reported, citing Whitehall officials. They will also pay for the home of Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, who fell ill after coming into contact with the nerve agent Novichok. That house is expected to cost taxpayers around £430,000. All in all, the purchase of both homes, cars, and other possessions, will amount to a hefty £1 million.

But the government’s decision to snatch up Skripal’s house has raised eyebrows online, including from those who believe the UK has “something to hide,” since there remains zero evidence to back claims that Russia was behind the poisoning of Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

it is because the whole thing was a made up lie

— TheGlobeIsALie (@LolSpinningBaLL) June 24, 2018

Others commented that such a huge sum of money could be used to help get the Grenfell Tower victims back on their feet, after a tragic fire swept over the building and killed 72 people last year.

Another suggested it could go towards the National Health Service (NHS).

Other taxpayers, however, were able to make light of the situation, jesting about their unexpected “home ownership.”

Skripal, a former Russian double agent, and his daughter were poisoned in Salisbury, UK on March 4. Although London and other Western nations were quick to point the finger at the Kremlin, there remains zero proof that Russia was involved in any way. Moscow has repeatedly denied any involvement and offered its full cooperation in the investigation."

https://www.rt.com/uk/430733-uk-taxpayers-skripal-house/

One wonders where the two "poisoned" Russians will be living, once their usefulness has gone. Living off their Russian pension and UK government gifts and lecture tour payments? Or will they have a sudden relapse and die heroes deaths. To be commemorated by a special wreath laid at a statue in Whitehall on 11th November.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The world let this arsehole get away with invading Ukraine, so the least the fucker can do is let these two live out their lives.

After all, his little dog and pony show served its purpose.

Could you stop swearing Harry ?
Its unpleasant to keep reading your profanitys
Try to think of other words to use, rather than "shit , areshole , fuck, fucker, fucking" etc