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    Siberian blast could make southern England colder than the Arctic

    Parts of south-east Engand could well end up colder than the North Pole this weekend.


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    "The North Pole and northern Greenland have been 30C to 40C warmer than historical averages in recent days"

    Although there's reasons why that sort of drastic swing could not occur in temperate or tropical climes, the sheer size of the shift is phenomenal and scary. Imagine Thailand getting hotter by 10 degrees more than average, let alone 40! 20 would be the death of the country.
    Also worthy of consideration is ecosystems. There's not a lot of organisms that can survive a 40 degree change from the norm, at least not for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    "The North Pole and northern Greenland have been 30C to 40C warmer than historical averages in recent days"

    Although there's reasons why that sort of drastic swing could not occur in temperate or tropical climes, the sheer size of the shift is phenomenal and scary. Imagine Thailand getting hotter by 10 degrees more than average, let alone 40! 20 would be the death of the country.
    Also worthy of consideration is ecosystems. There's not a lot of organisms that can survive a 40 degree change from the norm, at least not for long.
    F*ck an-A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Also worthy of consideration is ecosystems. There's not a lot of organisms that can survive a 40 degree change from the norm, at least not for long.
    Which is why human civilization spread east-west to Europe and China and not north-south down into Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    "The North Pole and northern Greenland have been 30C to 40C warmer than historical averages in recent days"
    Polar Vortex split...or so "they" say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    "The North Pole and northern Greenland have been 30C to 40C warmer than historical averages in recent days"
    Fahrenheit, not Centigrade. That was a misprint in the original. Still, 17C to 22C rise in arctic temperatures is shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Which is why human civilization spread east-west to Europe and China and not north-south down into Africa.
    Civilisation did not spread east-west, it arose independently in 5 areas. Mexico, Peru, China, Egypt, Mesopotamia, and the Indus Valley. Four river-valleys and one valley filled with lakes. The reason Africa South of Egypt didn't develop as a cradle of civilisation was geographic and not climate-related.
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    not forgetting Dorset

    Palaeontologists from the University of Portsmouth have discovered fossil teeth from two rat-like creatures in Dorset, England, which scurried around Earth approximately 145 million years ago. Scientists say they can draw a direct evolutionary line from these small furry animals to the people that walk the earth today, and have announced that these two species of rat are the oldest known ancestors of humans.
    I'd guess they are matching the ancient teeth to the modern pommy mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Civilisation did not spread east-west, it arose independently in 5 areas. Mexico, Peru, China, Egypt, Mesopotamia, and the Indus Valley
    1 Mexico,
    2 Peru,
    3 China,
    4 Egypt,
    5 Mesopotamia, and
    6 the Indus Valley

    Dear Bob your thesis is undisputable , however recommend don't count on your fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    however recommend don't count on your fingers.
    They hacked one off when he kept the drugs for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Fahrenheit, not Centigrade. That was a misprint in the original. Still, 17C to 22C rise in arctic temperatures is shocking.
    Oh..Thanks. It's a very misleading misprint!
    And yes, even 17C above average, and I'm assuming that's not just one day but over a period, is cause for concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Civilisation did not spread east-west,
    I suppose VN meant to say humans. Out of Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    The reason Africa South of Egypt didn't develop as a cradle of civilisation was geographic and not climate-related.
    I'm interested in this.

    Dr. B0b, if you could explain a little more I'd be grateful.

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    ^ I believe subSahran Africa didn't develop as a cradle of civilisation was because there were no indigenous domesticatable beasts of burden. African elephants, buffalo, and zebras aren't prone to taming. Whereever there were animals that could be domesticated for work, man's progress accelerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Civilisation did not spread east-west, it arose independently in 5 areas. Mexico, Peru, China, Egypt, Mesopotamia, and the Indus Valley. Four river-valleys and one valley filled with lakes. The reason Africa South of Egypt didn't develop as a cradle of civilisation was geographic and not climate-related.
    Apologizes I meant agriculture. All the high nutrition grains we have and the 5 major domesticated species are from the fertile crescent The Americas and Africa do not have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Civilisation did not spread east-west......
    It spread from west-east !!!!!
    (see link below)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    I'm interested in this.

    Dr. B0b, if you could explain a little more I'd be grateful.
    DrB0b has no clue about civilisation !

    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Whereever there were animals that could be domesticated for work, man's progress accelerated.
    And neither does Maanaam !

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    Parts of the UK are braced for up to 50cm of snow, as Storm Emma brings worsening conditions.
    A highly unusual red weather warning for snow is in force for south-west England and south Wales until the early hours of Friday.
    UK roads, railways and airports have been severely hit by snow for a third day, with thousands of schools shut.
    Thousands of drivers across the country are stranded in freezing temperatures as police urge people not to travel.
    The military has been called in to rescue drivers who have been stuck for several hours on the A31 in Hampshire as police declared it a major incident.
    Avon and Somerset police have also declared a major incident over concerns medical staff were unable to get to their place of work.
    Police said about 100 vehicles are stuck in snow on the A303 at Ilminster, Somerset, and a rescue operation is under way.
    In Dorset, around 100 vehicles are stranded on the A35 near Puddletown and a coach full of elderly passengers have been stuck on roads in Northumbria for eight hours, police said.


    The Met Office has 11 live severe weather warnings for snow, ice and wind in place for the UK. The final warning is in place until 23:55 GMT on Monday.
    On Thursday, a seven-year-old girl died after a car crashed into a house in Looe, Cornwall.
    In Leeds, a 75-year-old woman was found dead in a snowy street. She was found partially hidden beneath a car in the Farsley area of the city.
    Meanwhile, in the south, a 46-year-old man died in a road crash after a collision with a lorry in icy conditions on the A34 near Tot Hill services in Berkshire.








    Media captionRiver Chelmer at Maldon in Essex freezes overEarlier, a woman gave birth to a baby girl in a car on the roadside in snowy County Durham.
    National Grid says there may not be enough gas to meet demand in the UK.
    If suppliers cannot provide more gas, industry, large businesses and gas-fired power stations will be asked to use less, but domestic consumers would only be affected as a last resort.
    Children in south Wales, southern England and Scotland were off on a snow day on Thursday, as thousands of schools closed.








    Media caption'Legend' snow-clearing Cambridgeshire farmers salutedSeveral sports fixtures have been disrupted by weather conditions. Four Super League rugby league have been postponed and the Premier League Darts in Exeter has been cancelled.
    Meanwhile, an NHS trust in Leeds said the public response had been "wonderful" after it appealed for people with 4x4 cars to drive health workers to visit patients.
    Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionCouncil workers in North Yorkshire just about managed to complete a road inspectionImage copyrightPAImage captionA woman clears her driveway in GlasgowImage copyrightPAImage captionWhile cars battled against the conditions to be seen on the A192 in NorthumberlandA red alert for snow in Scotland - the country's first- has been lifted but an amber alert remains in place.
    On Thursday evening, troops were deployed to transport 200 critical care hospital workers to and from their shifts at two hospitals in Edinburgh.
    More than 300 people were stranded on a motorway in Scotland in freezing temperatures overnight on Wednesday - some for 20 hours.
    Some 15 law courts across Scotland have cancelled trials on Friday while the high winds have blown panels off the roof of the Princess Royal Maternity Hospital in Glasgow.


    First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has urged people there not to travel, while Wales' transport secretary has also warned against driving.
    Blizzards, biting winds and significant travel disruption are also affecting southern, western and central England, parts of Wales and Northern Ireland.
    This is the third day of disruption caused by heavy snowfall, with reports of "near zero visibility" on some roads in Cumbria.
    In Devon and Cornwall, police have warned drivers that most minor roads are "impassable".








    Media captionFun in the snowBy early evening the RAC had reported 8,000 breakdowns across the UK with the West Midlands its busiest region.
    Meanwhile, hundreds of homes have been left without power across the UK. On Thursday evening Western Power Distribution, which serves the Midlands, Wales and the south west, said 1,300 homes had power cuts, although not all were weather-related.
    The problems for travellers may not be over by the end of this evening with Arriva Trains Wales cancelling several of its services and suspending many others on Friday.








    Media captionCar has near miss with bus in EdinburghThousands of drivers trying to get home have been stuck for several hours.
    On the M27 in Hampshire motorists have been at a standstill for over five hours while police have declared a major incident on the A31 in the New Forest and called on troops to help rescue stranded motorists.
    Highways England said efforts are under way to rescue drivers stuck on the M62, which has been partly closed between Rochdale and Huddersfield.
    Police forces across the UK have repeatedly told people to only travel if necessary.
    Superintendent Mark Pannone from Cumbria Police said the amount of snowfall was abnormal, adding: "This adverse weather is set to be with us for at least the next 48 hours.
    "Many roads are hazardous and so I state again, please do not drive unless you absolutely have to."








    Media captionNicola Lee, who was stranded overnight on the M80, told the BBC it was like sitting in a car parkWhat is happening with the trains?

    Across the UK, more than 20 rail operators are running a reduced service.
    In London, Paddington Station was closed for nearly three hours due to severe weather conditions, and in Kent 50 stations are closed.
    National Rail is reporting mass disruption in the South East, Scotland, north-west England and the South West.

    • Virgin Trains' west coast service to and from Scotland has not been running since mid morning. Trains to Edinburgh are still cancelled and passengers on east coast routes are urged not to travel until Saturday
    • Arriva Trains Wales has suspended some services all day on Friday, including trains between Cardiff and Manchester. Some routes are suspended until at least 13:00 while others are running on a reduced timetable
    • Heathrow Express services between London Paddington and Heathrow Airport are running less frequently
    • East Midlands Trains are unable to run any trains between Nottingham and Skegness
    • There are numerous delays and cancellations on the Northern network, with all trains through Huddersfield delayed by up to 50 minutes or cancelled
    • ScotRail ran limited services until 19:00 GMT between Edinburgh and Glasgow, Glasgow Central and Kilmarnock and Glasgow Central and Ayr. There will be no trains in the amber warning area during the Friday morning peak
    • No CrossCountry services will run in Scotland on Friday









    Media captionHomeless in the snow: "I thought I would die sleeping out"How are the airports affected?

    Airports across Britain are being affected by the cold weather, and the knock-on effect of other terminals across the UK and Europe cancelling flights.

    • Glasgow Airport: The airport will stay closed for the rest of Thursday. More than 200 passengers spent the night in the terminal
    • Edinburgh Airport: The airport will fully close from 18:00 GMT to give staff time to prepare for Friday's conditions
    • Dublin Airport: All flights have been suspended until Saturday
    • Cardiff Airport: Flybe has cancelled flights after 15:00 GMT due to the red weather warning in south Wales
    • East Midlands Airport: The runway has reopened after being closed because of the snow but it warns passengers of cancellations and delays
    • Heathrow Airport: Some flights have been cancelled, with short-haul flights to airports including Dublin and Glasgow severely affected
    • Gatwick Airport: About 50 of the 350 flights due to depart from the terminal have been cancelled and there are also significant delays to other flights. Customers are advised to check before travelling
    • City Airport: There are multiple cancellations and delays at the airport, mainly affecting Irish and internal flights

    What is the forecast?

    The Met Office says the cold weather could last into next week and possibly the following week.
    BBC Weather's Ben Rich predicted "blizzard conditions" by Thursday night across south-west England, Wales and parts of the Midlands.
    He said a "biting easterly wind" will make it feel like -11C (12F) in Birmingham and Cardiff - on what is the first day of meteorological spring.
    There is potential for up to 50cm (19.6 inches) of snow over parts of Dartmoor and Exmoor, the Met Office added, with up to 20cm (7.8 inches) falling in southern England, Wales and the West Midlands.

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    nice one Harry

    Is is just me or is Ulster fucked?

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    The winds of climate change are blowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    ^ I believe subSahran Africa didn't develop as a cradle of civilisation was because there were no indigenous domesticatable beasts of burden. African elephants, buffalo, and zebras aren't prone to taming. Whereever there were animals that could be domesticated for work, man's progress accelerated.
    Native Americans used dogs as pack animals before they had horses. Africans had dogs and domestic cattle herds but didn't train them for beast of burden work. Maybe they hadn't evolved in next step of the intelligence ladder, harnessing animal energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    ^ I believe subSahran Africa didn't develop as a cradle of civilisation was because there were no indigenous domesticatable beasts of burden. African elephants, buffalo, and zebras aren't prone to taming. Whereever there were animals that could be domesticated for work, man's progress accelerated.

    Well apart from camels who, apart from being called the "ships of the desert", were also a food source as well being used for leather and wool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well apart from camels who, apart from being called the "ships of the desert", were also a food source as well being used for leather and wool.
    you know why they're called ships of the desert right? Because theyre full of arab seamin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well apart from camels who
    Sub Saharan Africa had camels?

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