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And the goverment is still cutting their budgets further and further back while fees rise.
Basically, they hate meritocracy and want higher education to be for the well-off again.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-a-market-mess
The ongoing review will cut the cost of silly worthless “art” degrees, so the shortfall in maths science and engineering graduates will be among the most expensive.
Catch 22
That pretty chart is a bit misleading.
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According to the College Board, the average cost of tuition and fees for the 2017–2018 school year was $34,740 at private colleges, $9,970 for state residents at public colleges, and $25,620 for out-of-state residents attending public universities.
So basically it's only cheap if you go to your local college, which may or may not be good for your chosen vocation.
Which, by the way, does not mean I don't think University education should be free.
Having said that, Republicans like uneducated oiks. They make good baldy orange cunto voters.
I like the Hungarian approach:
Expensive countries for college education - Business InsiderQuote:
The government does allow students to gain a free university education, however — as long as they stay in the country for 10 years after they graduate or face paying back their tuition fees.
To me that's the wrong way round as in engineering, science degrees as in worthwhile degrees should be free where as pointless shit like media studies where people are just doing it to have a 3 year piss up at Uni and the degree is basically worthless should be charged the maximum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Switch
Left out the word "costs" in the title......
But you don't pay any of it until you have employment that pays over £25,000 per year, then small increments by tax code upwards. All outstanding loans are written off after 30 years....?
Is this comparable to other countries?
At least May said they were trying to improve the technical side of education.
Does more money spent equal better education?
I think not...
When you say 'college' do you mean high school or university?
What does college mean.
Certainly not. Think the zero cost nations have a damn good acedemic standing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKkin
Public universities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cujo
The really bright English will move to Scotland lowering the IQ of both nations.
Excellent idea. When my ex-wife was at university if she became at teacher, in one of the designated "core subjects" and stayed as one, for I think 10 years, all her tuition fees were written off.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
I think all UK universities are open to all UK citizens, probably EU as well. The tuition fees vary by it's "reputation" and whatever the market will bear. Some also have additional exams to "select the right sort".
Overseas students at some reduce the places available along with "associated" feeder schools. I also think there are caps on OS numbers, but they pay higher tuition fees.
If you are a Scottish "resident" I believe the tution is free at Scottish universities.
University students have always partaken of liquids, tabs, powders, aromatic resins and looser morals. Nothing new there.
The deep and dangerous ideals of an educational for-profit machine instead of an educational foundation has become quite apparent -
Somewhere down the line the base of a little or no cost [state subsidized] educated/trained population that beneficially cycles back into a strong society and culture has been missed by much of the world.
Very little to do with education, and very much everything with high profit motive - be it public or private institutions.
Closely related to public health services/plans - the line is drawn regarding a health service to mega-profits.
We certainly could learn from the assorted Scandinavian societies, who seem to have such quality institutions secure.
Colleges can also mean education for students of 16 to 18 years old for "trades" etc. similar to Thailand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
There also used to be Teacher Training Colleges for post 18 year students, but they may not be around now.
Was no great insight or knowledge on my part. Simply read what it said in the OP. ;)
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A very good way of ensuring debt slaves early on and reducing youth unemployment numbers.
Yes the manipulation of society continues in many civilised and advanced countries. To the benefit of fewer and fewer.
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Aimed at the OP rather than you :)
The illustration, although from a UK source, is missleading in my opinion.
Universities in the UK are all AFAIK public or open to all. Colleges, except for a very few older UK universities, are referred to as Universities. It seems the americanisms are becoming more adopted, possibly to spread more confusion. :)
There was a time when provincial Rajabhat Universities were set-up to be geared for teachers training among other liberal arts directions, but today one can find the so-called "teacher's education" curriculum within most university and college settings - even within the steadfast Technical Colleges, where they adhere to strategies of teachers training .Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh