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    ^Inconvenient history...autodelete.

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    I though russia owned half of england already ?

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    First they came for our football teams ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I though russia owned half of england already ?
    London and the nice bits, yeah.

    I doubt they own too much of Stoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Disband NATO.

    NATO only exists to start wars of aggression now, and to rattle Russia.
    indeed, time for a European Defense Initiative with the French and Germans at the core of it

    maybe we will partner with Russia too, that would be a better idea and more logical since we are neighbors and friends

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    thank God the Brits are out now with Brexshit, couldn't happen with those idiots on board

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    UK defence secretary drops latest fear bomb, casually warns Russia is planning mass murder
    Published time: 26 Jan, 2018

    UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson is really settling into his job, and started the weekend early by scaring the hell out of the British public by claiming Russia could cause “thousands and thousands and thousands” of deaths.
    Why stop there? Why not millions of deaths? Or trillions? Gazillions?

    “What they [Russia] are looking at doing is they are going to be thinking ‘How can we just cause so much pain to Britain?’” Williamson said. “Damage its economy, rip its infrastructure apart, actually cause thousands and thousands and thousands of deaths, but actually have an element of creating total chaos within the country.”

    Firstly, congratulations on your ongoing efforts to speak English, Mr Williamson – you’re getting very close to fluency, keep it up.

    Secondly, if Russia really wanted to cause chaos in Britain, it wouldn’t worry about damaging some power lines, it would simply donate to the Tory party’s reelection fund.

    If we’re all honest, there is a good chance that Russia is making contingency plans in the event of conflict, because, y’know, that is what militaries tend to do, especially when the defence secretary of another nation spends his time talking up war against you.

    For example, those weapons that Williamson wants to buy for Britain’s military aren’t for international tickling contests. They’re part of contingency plans to cause thousands and thousands and thousands of deaths, should they have to.

    The huge aircraft carriers Britain is aiming to put to sea tend to cause a certain amount of chaos and death when they park up next to a sandy country somewhere.

    Those trident missiles? Guess what they could do, Gavin.

    The talk of war is coming from the West, not the east. Even on BBC Radio 4’s Today program this morning, a reporter suggested that some people may describe

    Williamson’s words as “alarmist.” Yeah, a f***ing great klaxon alarm.

    The threat basically suggests Russia wants to unplug Britain. “They are looking at these things because they are saying these are the ways that we can hurt Britain,” Williamson said.

    “If we lost our interconnectors, which would be something that we know that they are looking at, there would be 3 million homes without electricity. In a few years’ time there will be 8 million homes that would be dependent.

    “If you could imagine the domestic and industrial chaos that this would actually cause. What they would do is cause the chaos and then step back. This is the real threat that I believe the country is facing at the moment.”

    It’s a real mystery what Williamson thinks would happen then. After the globe’s biggest financial center has been unplugged, the chaos wouldn’t stop at the English Channel – it would go global, and Russia’s on the globe too.

    It cannot be underlined enough that this rhetoric is aimed solely at seeding fear in the government and population. These latest comments are so severe, it suggests that it’s now fair game to say anything about Russia, because no one seems to care whether it’s either true, or acceptable.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/417067-defence...iamson-threat/

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    Quite frankly, the nonsense being spewed out of Britain these days is embarassing.

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    fooking love it

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    /\ /\ /\ Interesting article in today's Guardian newspaper, which suggests the minister may have considerably sexed up the spooks assessment of the true situation, in order to deflect attention from a 'trouser arouser' problem the minister experienced back in 2004 which has now come to light, and which caused to him to leave a well paid MD position at a fireplace manufacture Elgin & Hall (a subsidiary of AGA).

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...vin-williamson

    Seems to be quite an ongoing problem for senior Tory ministers: Michael Fallon, Damien Green, and now this bloke!

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    It’s time to end ‘misinformation’ aimed at Russia, declares British lord
    31 Jan, 2018

    The House of Lords has been asked by one of its own to boost ties with Russia. Viscount Waverley said he had grown concerned by “ill-informed” rhetoric and “misinformation and polarization” aimed at Moscow.

    On Monday, Waverley told the House of Lords that “at a time of escalating rhetoric...relations with Russia must command our attention.”

    In recent months, British politicians have consistently laid into Russia. Despite accusations being repeatedly debunked, MPs are insisting that Facebook and Twitter keep looking for the influence of Russian bots on social media during the 2016 Brexit referendum.

    More recently, Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson has sewn discord. On Friday, he claimed that Russia was actually spying on the UK’s infrastructure, both on home soil and through sensitive intercontinental sea cables. He also purported Russia could launch a cyberattack at any time, and would kill “thousands and thousands and thousands” of Britons.

    On the topic of defense, Waverley pointed out that while relations with Russia may have been tense in recent decades, it would serve Britain well not to forget its old ally from World War Two.

    “[Russia’s war] losses were immense,” he said. “Without them, we would not be here today.

    “I have in my library Memoirs of a Soviet Ambassador 1939-1943. One of Ivan Maisky’s observations was that his recollection of official meetings he attended in London differed from the official records of the day.

    “Therein might lie a clue to the United Kingdom’s engagement with Russia: bridge that gap and build the trust vital to underpin a productive future relationship.”

    Some praised Waverley’s words and others opposed them, citing the conflicts in Syria and Ukraine.

    Lord Truscott said that the UK must work with Russia to find a way to sort out issues in the Ukraine.

    “I believe that we need to work together to ensure that there is a resolution of the Ukrainian conflagration,” he said. “We should fully engage with Russia over issues such as Syria, Iran and North Korea, and in fighting international terrorism, drug and people trafficking.

    “We need to move beyond the current mindless rhetoric and tit-for-tat diplomacy, which is dangerous and, if unchecked, can lead us all to disaster. If we are not careful, talk of war can itself become a self-fulfilling prophecy.”

    Lord Kilclooney echoed Truscott’s sentiments, telling the House of Lords that the UK must find a way to work together towards a more stable Europe.

    “I want to see an improved relationship between the United Kingdom and Russia,” he said.

    “Of course we have differences, but it is in the interests of the people of the United Kingdom and of Russia that we work more closely together, as well as in the best interests of a greater and more stable Europe.”

    https://www.rt.com/uk/417525-russia-...tion-waverley/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Gavin Williamson
    is obviously an utter cvnt, who is being well paid (by whom, we can't be sure) to be such an utter Judas to the good folk of the UK, that it defies belief.

    Furthermore,

    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Quite frankly, the nonsense being spewed out of Britain these days is embarassing
    No doubt of that.

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    Even more embarrassing that still so many people here swallow it all.

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