Thread: Dolores O'Riordan: Cranberries singer dies aged 46

^You may want to open your fuxxin mind and see she had way more songs than Zombie. Dumbo.


I didn't realize she moved to my province five years ago. She is Canadian now.

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

The Pogues are Irish I believe as well..

Well, not exactly.

Irish roots.

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

She is Canadian now

From the neck up?

Music legend Dolores found dead at hotel




Dolores O’Riordan with her bandmates from rock group The Cranberries

Legendary Irish rock singer Dolores O'Riordan has died at the age of 46.
The Cranberries superstar was yesterday found unresponsive shortly after 9am at the five-star London Hilton on Park Lane hotel in Mayfair.
O'Riordan had travelled to London for a short recording session.
The cause of her death has not been established and police have confirmed they are investigating the circumstances of her passing.
The singer had suffered from ill health in recent times.
The hotel expressed its sympathies in a statement.
"It is with deep regret that we can confirm a guest sadly passed away at the hotel," said a spokesman.
The spokesman added that the hotel was cooperating fully with the police investigation and offered its "sincere condolences to their family at this difficult time".

Unexplained

Police in Westminster are dealing with a sudden death," a Metropolitan Police statement said."Officers were called at 9.05am on Monday, 15 January to a hotel in Park Lane, W1. A woman in her mid-40s was pronounced dead at the scene. At this early stage, the death is being treated as unexplained."
O'Riordan's publicist confirmed her death and expressed the sadness of her family.
"The lead singer with the Irish band The Cranberries was in London for a short recording session," her publicist said in statement. "No further details are available at this time.
"Family members are devastated to hear the breaking news and have requested privacy at this very difficult time."
O'Riordan, from Ballybricken, Co Limerick, was renowned for her distinctive singing voice.
She became a multi-award winning musician after becoming lead singer of the band when she was just 18.
The Cranberries were one of Ireland's biggest bands in the last 20 years.
Formed in the late 1980s, they shot to fame after their debut album Everybody Else Is Doing It, So Why Can't We?, released in 1993.
Linger became the band's first major hit in 1993, peaking at No3 in Ireland, No8 in the US and No14 in the UK.
Their follow-up LP, No Need to Argue, was released in 1994 and it produced the hit singles Zombie, an evocative anti-war song, I Can't Be With You and Ode To My Family. The band have sold more than 40 million records worldwide.

They had seven studio album releases in total, the most recent of which was last year's Something Else.

Health

However, a tour to support the acoustic LP was cancelled due to O'Riordan's health issues.
In recent years, O'Riordan also fronted a band called D.A.R.K.
She split from her husband Don Burton - Duran Duran's former tour manager - in 2014 after 20 years together.
They have three children, Taylor (20), Molly (16) and Dakota (12).
In May 2017, The Cranberries cancelled a string of shows after O'Riordan was instructed by her doctors to stop working for a month for medical reasons associated with a back problem.
"The decision has not been taken lightly, but Dolores' health is paramount," said a statement from management at the time.
They cancelled a total of 14 gigs on their tour.
A spokesman for O'Riordan told the Herald at the time she had cancelled all plans for the foreseeable future. "She needs to not be doing anything for the next few weeks," the spokesman said. On December 20, O'Riordan tweeted from the band's official account.



Assaults

"Hi All, Dolores here. Feeling good! I did my first bit of gigging in months at the weekend, performed a few songs at the Billboard annual staff holiday party in New York with the house band.
"Really enjoyed it! Happy Christmas to all our fans!! Xo," she wrote.
In 2014 she was ordered to pay €6,000 to charity after an air rage incident.
She admitted three assaults and obstructing a garda after being taken off an Aer Lingus flight from New York's JFK to Ireland on November 10, 2014.
In February 2016, O'Riordan said she would use "music, dancing and performing to improve her mental health" after avoiding a criminal conviction for the incident.
Medical reports produced for the trial at Ennis District Court revealed she had been suffering from mania, mental illness and severely impaired judgment at the time of the incident, and that she remembered nothing about it.
President Michael D Higgins was among those to pay tribute to the star last night.
"It is with great sadness that I have learned of the death of Dolores O'Riordan, musician, singer and songwriter," he said.
"Dolores and The Cranberries had an immense influence on rock and pop music.
"I recall with fondness the late Limerick TD Jim Kemmy's introduction of her and The Cranberries to me, and the pride he and so many others took in their successes.

Loss

"To all those who follow and support Irish music, Irish musicians and the performing arts, her death will be a big loss."
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said: "For anyone who grew up in Ireland in the 1990s, Dolores O'Riordan was the voice of a generation. As the female lead singer of a hugely successful rock band, she blazed a trail and might just have been Limerick's greatest ever rock star. RIP," he said.
Irish band Kodaline also offered condolences, writing on Twitter: 'Absolutely shocked to hear about the passing of Dolores O'Riordan!"
A book of condolence was due to be opened at Limerick City and County Council's Corporate Headquarters at Merchant's Quay in Limerick today at 10am. An online book of condolence was also due to be opened at www.limerick.ie.

https://www.herald.ie/news/music-leg...-36492385.html

About right

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

"To all those who follow and support Irish music, Irish musicians and the performing arts, her death will be a big loss."

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

^You may want to open your fuxxin mind and see she had way more songs than Zombie. Dumbo.


I didn't realize she moved to my province five years ago. She is Canadian now.

No wonder she topped herself.

Never mind. We've still got the Wolfe Tones and Big Tom and the Mainliners.

Our Lady Of Sorrows - Dolores O'Riordan

She's the Irish popstar who caused world headlines when she was arrested for alleged assault on a plane at Shannon airport last Monday. Barry Egan tells the turbulent - and very sad - story of Dolores O'Riordan. It involves four years of rape as a child, suicidal thoughts, depression and hopefully, the road to recovery





November 17 2014 2:30 AM

Some of us who know - and love - Dolores O'Riordan have been bracing ourselves for disaster for years now. That 'disaster' came at 5am last Monday on Flight EI110 from New York to Shannon.


I was only surprised it hadn't happened years ago. So, Dolores finally went off the deep end with the most ignominious splash of her career. With her sanity fast unravelling seemingly, she was arrested for an alleged assault on an Aer Lingus flight attendant and allegedly head-butting and spitting in the face of a guard. It sounds like a tawdry spectacle of which Dolores, no doubt, would be rightly ashamed.

There is, if you allow me to tell it, a context. . .
Dolores is not well. She has been an accident waiting to happen for quite some time. Not many people who know Dolores are surprised about what allegedly happened at 10,000 feet over Shannon and on the ground at the airport. Most of the people who know and love Dolores O'Riordan want her to be in a better place. That is easier said than done.

Her mother has spoken of the singer being in a "very vulnerable place". In addition, and without wishing to exonerate or excuse her from her alleged violence, Dolores is carrying quite a burden of pain and torment from her past. I don't use these words lightly or even dramatically. It is easy to throw about phrases like 'dealing with her demons'. Dolores O'Riordan's demons, however, would frighten the life out of most of us. Read this next paragraph back twice before you judge Dolores O'Riodran too hastily. Too harshly.
She told me this in October, 2013: "He [the abuser] used to masturbate me when I was eight years old. He made me do oral sex for him and ejaculated on my chest when I was eight years old. It was inappropriate touching. For four years, when I was a little girl I was sexually abused. I was only a kid."

Dolores kept the dirty secret of what happened to her during her childhood buried inside her all her life. It has cast shadows over her whole life. The dirty secret caused Dolores O'Riordan to have a nervous breakdown - and to be depressed and suicidal and anorexic. She had panic attacks. She didn't sleep or eat properly. How could she?
For years, she looked like she was rehearsing for Angelina Jolie's role in Girl, Interrupted - resembling at times, in her anorexic-seeming condition, a nervous breakdown waiting to happen. The story of what was done to Dolores O'Riordan from the age of eight to 12 by someone in the Limerick area who was in a position of trust is heart-breaking and disturbing.

"We moved into a busy housing estate when I was seven. There were tons of people around all the time. My mother worked a lot to pay the bills and my father was oblivious to it." (Her father Terence, she explained, had a bad bike accident in 1968, "which left him invalided with permanent brain damage" and he "was never the same again.")
"My father would have killed him [the abuser] had my poor father not been 'retarded'."

When her father, who had been ill with cancer for seven years, died on November 25, 2011, at home in Ballybricken, county Limerick, Dolores knew in all likelihood that she would see her abuser at the funeral in Limerick. "I had nightmares for a year before my father's death about meeting him," she told me in November of last year. These fears were realised when the man who abused her "came over and cried and said: 'Sorry'."

I asked her what did you say to him when he said that. "My father had just died. I didn't see him for years and years and then I saw him at my father's funeral. I had blocked him out of my life."

Dolores said she was going to talk to the priest at the funeral about her sexual molestation. "But I didn't. I asked him to pray for me as I was about to go on another world tour and I worried that I might not make it through."
So there you have it. Imagine being raped repeatedly as a child by someone known to your family. Just imagine the horror of living with all that. Maybe I am just naive but I expected more in terms of human sympathy. The feigned moral outrage of the tabloids is nothing short of nauseating, poking fun at someone who is obviously in a distressed state singing in their police cell. A bit of empathy wouldn't have gone amiss.
Have we lost our duty of care for our fellow human beings? I'm a Christian and I say, there but for the grace of God go you and I. What Dolores allegedly did exposes the underlying and fragile fault lines that govern all our lives. We are all human. And Dolores is more human than most.

Dolores texted me later last summer that she wanted to go for brain-shock therapy to help her with the pain of what happened to her in her childhood. In the end she thought it might be too harsh. "Sometimes that therapy erases the memory too much.. . .erasing the ability to write. "

Dolores told me that she blamed herself for that man sexually abusing her for four years beginning when she was eight. "That's what happens. You think it is your own fault. I buried it. It is what you do initially. You bury it because you are ashamed of it. You think: 'Oh my God. How horrible and disgusting I am.' You have this terrible self-loathing. And then I got famous when I was 18 and my career took over. It was even harder then. So then I developed the anorexia.
"When I Googled anorexia and studied it, I found out it was a common pathology that develops later on in life. So I was putting on this charade, this perfect face. I had anorexia, then depression, a breakdown."
I told her that anorexia is a form of suicide: you want to make yourself disappear.

"I knew why," she replied. "I knew why I hated myself. I knew why I loathed myself. I knew why I wanted to make myself disappear. It was something that I noticed manifested itself in my behaviour and the pathologies I began to develop in my early adult life, such as my eating disorder, depression and eventually the breakdowns.
"I think I am getting stronger for sure. But I'll always be a bit of a train wreck. Nobody's perfect. Those people who pretend they are perfect aren't perfect." Dolores O'Riordan is anything but perfect: a tortured soul as prone to black moods as she is to cloudbursts of absolute and undiluted joy. And when the cloudbursts happen there is no better person you'd rather be around.
In Rome last Christmas, we sat in an outside bar in Trastevere and laughed and talked for hours. She was the happiest I had seen her in ages. Then, two hours later back at the hotel, she was a different person - she became dark and odd and out of kilter, possibly even a little out of her mind, certainly unaware of what she was saying or doing.

She was singing and being a bit bonkers. I got the impression that Dolores only gave the interview about her sexual abuse in the Sunday Independent's LIFE magazine because a) it would get it out there so publicly that it could no longer be a dirty little secret and she could truly start to heal herself, but more bluntly, that it would put a halt to her destructive binge drinking. Sadly barely a month after the interview came out, Dolores was back drinking worse than ever, and with moods just as black.
The day before, she had been singing for the Pope at the Vatican. With Dolores O'Riordan, sometimes there's but one step between the sublime and the ridiculous. And the sad. (The drunken singing in Rome had echoes of what Dolores was reported to have done in the cell in Shannon Garda station on Monday morning.)
In Rome, people came over with their camera phones. I told them to go away. Dolores's singing only got louder. The manager of the hotel asked me to get her to stop. She could not be stopped. It was like trying to stop a hurricane with a paper bag.

I left her and went to bed and took my phone off the hook in my room; back in Dublin, over the years, Dolores had a disconcerting habit of ringing me from her home in Canada at all hours of the night, drunk out of her mind, rambling like a lunatic, wailing about life like a banshee unhinged.
I would often hang up after a while and she would merely ring back and continue where she left off on my answering machine. I love her (I invited her to my wedding during the summer; she sent me a lovely present instead) but Dolores shouldn't drink.
She's an absolute mess when she's drunk - dangerous to herself. The dark stuff in her head boils up to the surface with drink, and comes out in a nasty black tempest of inner turmoil and rage. She doesn't deserve eternal punishment in the seventh circle of Dante's Inferno for what she allegedly did last Monday morning at Shannon - I'd say what Dolores is putting herself through in her own head right now is suffering enough - but she does need to apologise to everyone concerned.

You can only imagine the troubled thoughts and feelings that assailed Dolores's mind through her youth and into her adult life - putting an enormous strain on her, psychologically and emotionally. It is no surprise that Dolores has admitted to suffering from anorexia, nervous breakdowns, and suicidal thoughts over the years. This goes some way - but not nearly far enough - to explaining her volatile vulnerability, her precarious psychological state at times.
"I tried to overdose last year," she told me last summer. "I suppose I am meant to stay here for the kids.
"It is just about acknowledgement for me now - not revenge," she said, slowly. "I'm not that type but it will free me to go into group therapy as I go on with my life and I can be a better and stronger mother."

"I am pretty good but sometimes I hit the bottle," she added "Every thing is way worse the next morning. I chain smoke when I drink. I have a bad day when I have bad memories and I can't control them and I hit the bottle. I kind of binge drink. That is kind of my biggest flaw at the moment," she told me.
It will have to be decided whether Dolores will go to court over what allegedly happened on the plane and in Shannon. Perhaps Dolores has already been found guilty in the court of public opinion. I hope not.
That said, we love a scandal in Ireland where the mighty fall from grace and the pious are caught in sin. Dolores O'Riordan is neither particularly mighty (her best days in the Cranberries are behind her) nor pious (she got married to her husband Don Burton in virtually her knickers in Holy Cross Abbey outside Tipperary in 1994).

As Colin Harrison wrote in New York magazine in 2012, "we love scandals assuming their flames of destruction don't touch us or those we care about. They make us feel momentarily safer (his fate was not mine) and a bit more alive (could his fate be mine?)"
Born on September 9, 1971, Dolores will hopefully survive this scandal and emerge from the wreckage a better, mentally healthier, person. They say the biggest lies are the ones you tell to yourself. Last Christmas in Rome, Dolores told me that "I'm in a place of great happiness. I've never been happier or as calm or contented in my life." I didn't believe her, and I suspect, not just with the benefit of hindsight, that she didn't believe it herself either.
Sitting in Piazza Navone late one December night, she said that it was "amazing to have the burden lifted off my shoulders; it is almost like going into therapy and confessing it, except you do it the other way around, because when you are famous you just open up and that is it. It does feel good to have that off the shoulders. I feel a definite sense of a relief.
"I don't have to explain it to people. It happened. And you know, I think it makes people understand who you are and how you are a little bit better."

In hindsight, in Rome Dolores said a last fascinating thing about her boundaries.
"I cannot have sleeping tablets around, because if I have a few drinks I'll take them. On tour, it was just so easy to say: 'I can't sleep, I've had a couple of drinks, maybe I'll take one.' Then you take another. Then you don't wake up. That can happen. I am careful now."
Dr Harris Stratyner, a psychologist, addictionologist, and vice president of the Caron Treatment Center in New York, talking to Vanity Fair last year about John Galliano's unforgivable anti-Semite outburst in Paris in 2011 while on drink and drugs, said that in a blackout state "things can come up that are the complete antithesis of who you are.. .that initially, when you drink, alcohol is a mood disinhibitor.
"There is a tendency for people to say things because they feel disinhibited. But it doesn't actually have to be the truth. It could be something that is going through somebody's stream of consciousness, because they saw something on television, for instance. Let's say Mr Galliano - who I have never met and never treated - was coming into a bar and saw Hasidic people. That could have triggered something. That does not mean he is an anti-Semite. He certainly could be anti-Semitic, but he may also love Jewish people. The thing to know is that in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, alcohol dependence is under the rubric of being a mental illness. Pills can cause the same thing-the brain is going, to use a layman's term, haywire." Maybe that's what happened to Dolores O'Riordan on the flight? She went haywire?

Dolores has no choice but the long road to recovery. She doesn't have to travel down the road of recovery on her own.
In April of this year, I met Dolores and her mother Eileen for lunch near the family home in Bruff, county Limerick. Eileen said at one point: "I remember my own mother - who was 92 when she died in 1997 - saying to Dolores one morning: 'You'd have been better off if you'd kept your little job in Cassidys in Limerick.'"
Eileen then recalled visiting her famous daughter in Dingle in 1993. "Dolores came to the door. She was in tears. She said, 'Will you help me, mammy?'
"I said, 'What's wrong with you?' She said nothing, then said: 'Nobody can help me now.' I didn't know what she meant and I was very worried about her. She was unable to tell me or explain or communicate very well. It was a long drive home and I thought about it all the way home. That was a turning point for Dolores."
"You get to the point where you want to die," Dolores said, "because you think that you'll get peace when you're dead and you can't get any worse than you are. We built a house in Dingle that we never lived in. It was around the time of [the third Cranberries' album] To The Faithful Departed. All the songs were depressing and I was very depressed and I was extremely anorexic on that record and as it came out, I got progressively worse.
"Looking back now I never thought that I'd be here with two boys and two girls - a beautiful 22-year-old, a beautiful 16-year-old, a beautiful 13-year-old, and a beautiful nine-year-old," Dolores said referring to her children Mollie, Dakota, Taylor and Donnie. "I realise now that life isn't about money, fame. Actually, all that crap. It's simply love that's important."
That's what Dolores O'Riordan needs now more than anything.

Sunday Independent

https://www.independent.ie/entertain...-30744987.html

Bound to be a Netflix movie made next, has all the ingredients for a great screen drama .
Religion, Irish childhood misery.

The lead singer of The Cranberries was found dead by cleaners in her hotel bathroom, it emerged last night.
Dolores O’Riordan’s body was discovered when staff at the Hilton on Park Lane in London went into her room thinking it was empty.
She was pronounced dead at the scene on Monday morning. Scotland Yard initially said her death was ‘unexplained’ but yesterday ruled that it was ‘not suspicious’.
One hotel worker told the Mail yesterday: ‘The people who found her said they found her in the toilet.

‘I think it was the cleaners who had gone in there because there was no activity around the hallway or from the room. They didn’t say how they found her, this has been kept private.’
Another staff member said: ‘They found her in the bathroom. But the staff that found her have not said anything more, so we don’t know if it’s suicide or what.’

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Originally Posted by DrB0b

A hyperbolic title but a sad story. We do like our artists to be crazy, though, we almost expect talented people to also be broken people - that's one reason they rarely get the help they need. She of course also had the misfortune to be born in a place and time where society would blame her and shame her for what had happened to her - there's a reason why alcoholism and being Irish have been so closely realted for such a long time. I hope those days have gone now and that the current generation grow up without the evil bastards who tried to blight my, and earlier, generations with their hypocrisy and false morals.

I think the main problem that was very predominate is that she had a lot of personal demons that she was dealing with, and also physical pain. The biggest issue with a lot of famous people, especially moreso it seems in the UK, is that they are hounded by the press who really give no space or freedom to people to have a real life. I could never imagine being a famous superstar and being followed 24/7 and written about with false information in the news.

Originally Posted by Wilsonandson

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Hmm, I am highly doubting suicide, but I could be wrong.
An accidental overdose perhaps.

You're speculating about her state of mind at the time.

That's pretty pointless.

She wasn't hounded by the press, but your gormless brainfarts show you're bang in that target group that is its market.

^Yes, she was, dipshit. She moved to Canada because of it. If you knew any of her songs you'll see it was a big problem for her. Stop hounding me across the forum.

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

^Yes, she was, dipshit. She moved to Canada because of it. If you knew any of her songs you'll see it was a big problem for her. Stop hounding me across the forum.

And you wonder why you are not treated gently as a lady here? benice2me indeed.

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

I think the main problem that was very predominate is that she had a lot of personal demons that she was dealing with, and also physical pain. The biggest issue with a lot of famous people, especially moreso it seems in the UK, is that they are hounded by the press who really give no space or freedom to people to have a real life. I could never imagine being a famous superstar and being followed 24/7 and written about with false information in the news.

She wasnt very famous though , just a little bit famous , probably just got recognised occasionally by fans of her music

ooh it's terrible how she was hounded by the press i wonder if they'll find that 'man in the mercedes' who sold her the stuff she drank like a fish you know even our barry says he couldn't handle that much vodka ark ark ark ark but can't they just leave it now she's gone i don't believe it was an overdose did you read that tweet by her ex? well apparently she loved rough sex.

Originally Posted by cyrille

apparently she loved rough sex.

Lots of women do. Maybe most.
Don't they?

Originally Posted by Wilsonandson

Jesus, she was a depressing woman when she wasn't singing on stage. R.I.P

I'll go for the topped herself on tramidol as the cause of death.

Nigh on impossible.

Originally Posted by aging one

And you wonder why you are not treated gently as a lady here?

Yet, he calls me a gormless brainfart and still stalks me around the board. If that isn't double standards I don't know what is.

Originally Posted by Fluke

She wasnt very famous though , just a little bit famous , probably just got recognised occasionally by fans of her music

It wasn't just her, it was her and her band who were pretty famous in the 90's and yes, you as well as I know the press can be merciless. But anyway, I feel like I am wasting my breath with some of you guys on this forum. See ya

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Lots of women do. Maybe most.
Don't they?

even though some pretend they don't heh?

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

I feel like I am wasting my breath with some of you guys on this forum. See ya

If you are going to keep this up simply freaking go, I for one dont need another meltdown by you.

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

Yet, he calls me a gormless brainfart and still stalks me around the board. If that isn't double standards I don't know what is.

It wasn't just her, it was her and her band who were pretty famous in the 90's and yes, you as well as I know the press can be merciless. But anyway, I feel like I am wasting my breath with some of you guys on this forum. See ya

That is rather extreme , I was just making the point that She wasnt that famous nowadays , maybe she had difficulties with coping with not being famous anymore , a bit like Sinead O Connor .
Do not be concerned about Ageingone , hes just a miserable old man who is just abusive to people , why dont you put him on ignore and then he cannot abuse you ?

Originally Posted by Fluke

This message is hidden because patsycat is on your ignore list.

Isnt that a bit harsh as she has passed away? Oh yeah you made a crass remark about her in the memorial thread. Flake showing his true colors again.

You two are a lot alike with your threatening to flounce and miserable control of the English language.