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    Rouhani acknowledges Iranian discontent as protests continue


    People take to the streets again despite heavy police presence and efforts to block social media apps

    Saeed Kamali Dehghan Iran correspondent
    Sun 31 Dec ‘17






    Iranian authorities have threatened a crackdown against protesters and scrambled to block social media apps allegedly used to incite unrest as the biggest demonstrations in nearly a decade continued for a fourth day.

    People across Iran took to the streets again on Sunday evening in defiance of a heavy presence of riot police and state warnings to stay away.

    Iran’s president, Hassan Rouhani, in his first comments about the protests, aired on national television on Sunday night, said “people have the right to criticise”, but said the authorities would not tolerate antisocial behaviour. He said criticism was “different from violence and destroying pubic properties”.The demonstrations began over economic grievances on Thursday but have since taken on a political dimension, with unprecedented calls for the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to step down.

    Officials said they arrested at least 200 people during demonstrations in central Tehran on Saturday. It was not clear how many were arrested in the provinces, which saw protests on a bigger scale than the capital. Two protesters were killed in western Iran on Saturday.

    The protests are the biggest in Iran since 2009, when demonstrators called for the removal of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as president after what they regarded as his fraudulent re-election.
    Videos posted on social media from Saturday night in Tehran showed protesters taking down large banners depicting the ayatollah’s image, in acts of resistance rarely seen since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

    Rouhani, urging the nation to be vigilant, acknowledged that people were unhappy about the state of economy, corruption and a lack of transparency. “People are allowed under the constitution to criticise or even protest but […] in a way that at the end they lead to a better situation in the country for the people,” he said.Condemning the US president, Donald Trump, who has voiced support for the protests, Rouhani said: “This gentleman who today sympathises with our people has forgotten that a few months ago he called us a terrorist nation. The one who has opposed the Iranian nation from his head to his toe has no right to express sympathy for people of Iran.”

    On Sunday Trump tweeted that “people are finally getting wise as to how their money and wealth is being stolen and squandered on terrorism”, adding that the US was “watching very closely for human rights violations”.

    Earlier in the day, Iran’s interior minister, Abdolreza Rahmani-Fazil, said authorities would not tolerate the “spreading of violence, fear and terror”, which he said would “definitely be confronted”.

    “Those who damage public property, disrupt order, people’s security and break the law must be responsible for their behaviour and should answer and pay the price,” he said, according to the website of the state broadcaster Irib.

    The broadcaster said authorities had blocked Instagram and the messaging app Telegram, which is the most popular social networking platform in Iran, citing an anonymous source who said the move was “in line with maintaining peace and security of the citizens”. Authorities said the filtering was temporary.

    Telegram’s CEO, Pavel Durov, said it had blocked access to the popular Amadnews channel after it had “started to instruct their subscribers to use Molotov cocktails against police”.

    A source in Iran told the Guardian the state had started blocking access to Telegram, but it was not covering all provinces yet.

    Authorities said two protesters were killed in the western province of Lorestan on Saturday, but denied it was the result of clashes between demonstrators and riot police.

    The deputy governor for Lorestan, Habibollah Khojastehpour, said police and security guards had not opened fire, and instead blamed “Takfiri groups” – Iran’s term for Sunni extremists – and foreign intelligence services. “Unfortunately in these clashes two citizens from [the city of] Doroud were killed,” he said.

    Many senior figures within the reformist camp and the opposition Green movement remain perplexed as to how to respond to the current wave of unrest. The sharp nature of some of the slogans, which have challenged the foundations of the Islamic republic, has left them mute.

    There were also nostalgic slogans in support of the monarchy and the late shah, as well as some with a nationalistic nature, including “We are of Aryaee [Aryan] race, we don’t worship Arabs.” Relatively fewer chants were heard in support of two opposition leaders under house arrest, Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi.

    There have been anti-Khamenei chants such as “Death to the dictator” and slogans opposing Iran’s regional policy, including “Let go of Syria, think about us” and “I give my life for Iran, not Gaza, not Lebanon”.

    Some videos showed protesters apparently setting bins on fire and trying to break into government buildings. The semi-official Tasnim news, which is close to the elite Revolutionary Guards, published a photo that it said showed a protester setting fire to the Iranian flag. There were chants of “Death to the Revolutionary Guards” in at least one city.

    Many Iranians are sceptical about how the protests have spread so quickly. One prominent senior reformist commentator, Hamidreza Jalaipour, said reformists were opposed to protests instigated by “advocates of regime change”, implying that the new wave of protests was not spontaneous.

    A protester from Tehran University told the Guardian by phone that although students were puzzled about how the protests were organised and spreading so quickly, they were not “getting leads from anyone”.
    Ali Vaez, Iran project director at International Crisis Group, called the protests “an explosion of the Iranian people’s pent-up frustrations over economic and political stagnation”, but he said: “This is neither a revolution nor a movement.”

    Vaez said: “Given its lack of leadership, organisation and mission, it is likely to peter out or will be quelled. The Rouhani administration has two options: it can follow the example of its predecessors ([Ali Akbar Hashemi] Rafsanjani after the protests of the early 1990s and [Mohammad] Khatami after the 1999 student uprising) and opt for a more cautious path, or capitalise on public discontent to push the system towards more genuine reforms. That choice will ultimately determine the Islamic Republic’s fate.”

    Iranian conservatives, while acknowledging ordinary people were protesting for what they said were mainly economic reasons, accused foreign powers of inciting violence and exploiting the situation.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/31/protesters-who-spread-fear-and-violence-will-be-confronted-says-iran
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    Demonstrators in Iran stopped an Islamic Revolutionary Guard van carrying arrested protesters.City: Tehran Cameraman yells: "Topple it!"


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    A map of the spread of the Iran Protests from Thursday to Saturday


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    It will all end in tears.

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    In Shahin Shahr (near Isfahan, Central Iran) Basij militias opened fire on defenceless protesters killing three while ten other people were badly injured. Protesters became angry and fought back burning trucks of Basijis.


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    I hope they beat the living crap out of these satanic demonstrators.


    Long live the Islamic Republic of Iran.

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    Anothet CIA sponsored revolution?


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    Here's why...



    They've done it before!

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    Iran protests getting outside help?

    In October a CATO Institute paper analyzed (and rejected) several options for U.S. handling Iran. Under Option Three: “Regime Change from Within” it noted:

    In this approach, the United States would pressure the Iranian regime and simultaneously back groups that oppose it-whether the exiled extremist National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), pro-democracy Green Revolution factions, or ethnic minorities within Iran-a strategy advocates often compare to Reagan’s support for civil society groups in the Soviet Union.
    ...
    [A] proponent of “coerced democratization,” the Foundation for Defense of Democracies’ Mark Dubowitz, urged President Trump to “go on the offensive against the Iranian regime” by “weakening the Iranian regime’s finances” through “massive economic sanctions,” while also “undermin[ing] Iran’s rulers by strengthening pro-democracy forces” inside Iran. This option appears to be gaining traction in the Trump administration’s ongoing Iran policy review and has received public support from Tillerson. CIA Director Mike Pompeo also favored such an approach during his time in Congress.

    The MEK/NCRI noted that Senator Tom Cotton, who will likely replace CIA chief Pompeo when Pompeo moves to the State Department, issued a supportive statement for the protests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsonandson View Post
    They've done it before!
    While the volume’s contents still are being sifted through, here’s a description from the Preface:

    This Foreign Relations retrospective volume focuses on the use of covert operations by the Truman and Eisenhower administrations as an adjunct to their respective policies toward Iran, culminating in the overthrow of the Mosadeq government in August 1953. Moreover, the volume documents the involvement of the U.S. intelligence community in the policy formulation process and places it within the broader Cold War context. For a full appreciation of U.S. relations with Iran between 1951 and 1954, this volume should be read in conjunction with the volume published in 1989.

    “This is going to be an important source for anyone interested in the tortured relationship between Washington and Tehran,” said Malcolm Byrne, who runs the National Security Archive’s Iran-U.S. Relations Project. “But the fact that it has taken over six decades to declassify and release these records about such a pivotal historical event is mind-boggling.”


    Iran 1953: State Department Finally Releases Updated Official History of Mosaddeq Coup

    https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NS...-coup-in-Iran/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsonandson View Post
    They've done it before!
    However, was it confirmed by "recognized" MSM?

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    There's a lot of information on the 1953 coup here. Click on the links at the bottom of the page to get PDF files.

    https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    I hope they beat the living crap out of these satanic demonstrators.


    Long live the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    1x Revolutionary Guard got killed ! This is getting good

    (count: 20 killed)

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    How great-hearted that US is concerned about the well-being of Iranian people, Nikki urgently calling the UN SC.
    Why not to help as years before - see the link above - and/or like the help to Iraqi, Afghan, Libyian, Syrian, and many others...

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    One suspects ameristan calling for regime chnage in another country runs counter to accepted behaviour.

    A different viewpoint from an Iranian reporter based in France.

    Iran protests: Western salivation, agitation & desperation | The Vineyard of the Saker
    One paragraph should remind those who call for "western/proxy" interference.

    "Foreign interventions and false flags – also not a worry for Iran

    What must also be remembered is that Iran already had their “NATO intervention” – it was called the Iran-Iraq War. For 8 horrible years the West foisted Iraq on Iran, supplied Iraq with weapons, turned a blind eye to the worst chemical weapons atrocities since World War One, and did all they could to create, prolong and influence the deadliest war in the last quarter of the 20th century.


    And it was still not enough"
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsonandson View Post
    They've done it before!
    They've failed before (August 1988)!

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    Thank Allah that Iran has these great women that are supporting the Islamic Republic of Iran. Its great to see that they have this opportunity to catch a glimpse from the outside of their homes.


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    ^There are also other supporters. (Sorry cannot find it on VoA)




    ‘Leader, we’re ready!’ 10,000s march in Iran in support of govt & Khamenei (PHOTO, VIDEO)
    Published time: 3 Jan, 2018 14:09

    https://www.rt.com/news/414900-iran-...rt-government/
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    A different viewpoint from an Iranian reporter based in France.
    Happy Western New Year to all!

    Ramin Mazaheri
    What a stupid Smuck! !!(besides his article his garbage anyway)
    Maybe he should try changing his Western computer and electronic gadgets to the Persian New Year. Good Luck Idiot !

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    Quick !

    Send in the BOMBs to FREE the PEOPLE of IRAN.

    BOMB FOR FREEDOM.

    Bet Bibi the Butcher already has his cock out lubing it up with some arab childs blood ready for this mamouth wank when the Merkins attack Iran.

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    Send in the BOMBs to FREE the PEOPLE of IRAN.


    Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    It will all end in tears.

    Perhaps.
    Yet, inroads might make a dent.

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    Forget 'foreign funded agitators', or a 'cry for Freedom'- it's the economy, stupid.
    It's not about the Mullahs, more about the price of mutton.

    Trumps and Netanyahu's inane comments only helped quell the protests, which are now petering out. But the average Iranian is suffering economically, partially due to foreign sanctions but also widespread corruption, and a mismanaged economy. Excellent reporting from The Grauniad which, when it is not too busy trying to sabotage Brexit, is still capable of such.

    Recent budget increases in fuel and food prices appear to have triggered spontaneous protests by ordinary people in multiple centres. The vast majority were not seeking regime change. But they were incensed by what they saw as another attack on their living standards.


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lk-are-foolish
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    But the average Iranian is suffering economically, partially due to foreign sanctions
    Did not it work in Iraq? So sweet the victory afterwards when the missiles sent (Mission Accomplished)

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