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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Without the US unequivocal support Israel couldn't get away with what it does.
    yep, the israeli lobby is very strong and successful in the u.s., of course.

    clinton made a half-arse attempt at a peace deal and blamed the failure on arafat who would have been hung when he got back home, if he had given up the land and rights that sharon wanted him to.

    besides that, carter was the last u.s. president to really put pressure on israel.

    obviously, israel doesn't want to give up land for peace and is happy with the status-quo and america just says "what you gonna do. we can't force a peace deal."

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    Why do Americans love Israel so much, 90% of Americans probably couldn't even find it on a map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Why do Americans love Israel so much, 90% of Americans probably couldn't even find it on a map.
    most americans couldn't care less while the religious right is tight with the zionists, supporting israeli expansion.

    apperently, american jews are split with half supporting (financially) the loony settlers moving in on palestinian land and half who support a palestinian state and criticize israel's actions against the palestinians.

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    Trump to announce Jerusalem as capital of Israel-ddnc17wuwaazfcy-jpg
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    On the bright side, I'm pretty sure the Nobel committee will be taking note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    On the bright side, I'm pretty sure the Nobel committee will be taking note.
    The Nobel committee lost all credibility when they gave the black Jesus a gong when he hadn't done anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    The Nobel committee lost all credibility when they gave the black Jesus a gong when he hadn't done anything.
    The NYT nailed it when they said it was "a (barely) implicit condemnation of Mr. Bush's presidency".

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    The Nobel committee lost all credibility when they gave the black Jesus a gong when he hadn't done anything.
    they lost it in 1975 when they gave that obscene fat Israeli, Kissinger, the Nobel price for peace

    what a frigging joke,

    and yes Obama was a big disappointment for peace, and it was a bit too early to give him one

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    ^ Israeli,American terrorism.Let's make the world great again.(Fail)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    On the bright side, I'm pretty sure the Nobel committee will be taking note.
    Whatta phony outfit that is.
    Sorted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Like they treat all their citizens, lawfully.
    ......you might want to discuss your opinion with Tibetans, Uygers, folks of the 'stans and those who disagree with the leaders of either country...

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    While everyone is talking bullshit here, the fact is there are many unnecessary deaths and as usual the Palestinians are copping the brunt of it. I would like to know what the total Israeli deaths are compared to the Palestinians over the last 20 years. I would imagine about 100 palestinians to 1 Israeli. Looking at the comments I can see how Hitler came to power and how gullible people really are. One would have to be myopic not to see some parallels between what Israel is doing and what the Nazis did. Anything becomes justifiable if you are far enough to the left or right. Again, religion is to some degree at the root of this problem, coupled with peoples stupidity. Everyone knows this is about land and this fight will become the forever war if it hasn't already. Tough sanctions on Israel is the only hope of getting a reasonable deal done. No point in sanctions on the Palestinians who have got SFA already.

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    The U.S. government see its' interest lays with supporting Israel at all cost and the Palestinians are just collateral damage, expendable for the greater good of American interests. Unfortunately the very people who the government is supposed to protect, U.S. citizens, can become subjected to this false narrative.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    The U.S. government see its' interest lays with supporting Israel at all cost
    ...of course it does: tRump needs to satisfy his Christian base and all their fantasies in order to retain their votes...blinkered, narrow-minded nonsense, but that's how democracies work...

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    Wow, what an auspicious day. A low powered delegation of wannabe's and scoundrels (including press whores) slinks into the "Grand opening" of the all new US Embassy in the capital of Israel, west Jerusalem. [the capital of Palestine, East Jerusalem, is just a couple of km's away]. Wow, real game changer that, e'hh? Not.

    And of course, in true Israeli and American style, they cover themselves in Blood in the process. Another game changer e'hhh? Not. Screw these Embassies- what is the point of them anyway when there is no observable International Law? reopen the Temple of Baal, I say. A bit of good old fashioned blood sacrifice always amuses the home audience. Especially Trump & Bibi fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Everyone knows this is about land
    Some know more than others, clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    One would have to be myopic not to see some parallels between what Israel is doing and what the Nazis did.
    Previously, the Nazis came for the Jews , we all know what happened then .
    The Jews were unable to defend themselves .
    Now the Muslims are coming for the Jews , Jews can now defend themselves

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    “Make no mistake: Hamas is pleased with the results from yesterday,” she said, as she explained how the terror group had goaded protestors into heading into dangerous areas of the fence by falsely telling them the IDF had fled.

    Hamas used “loudspeakers that urge demonstrators to burst through the fence, falsely claiming Israeli soldiers were fleeing, when in fact, they were not. The same loudspeakers are used by Hamas to urge the crowds to ‘Get closer! Get closer!’ to the security fence,” Haley said.

    “I ask my colleagues here in the Security Council: Who among us would accept this type of activity on your border? No one would. No country in this chamber would act with more restraint than Israel has. In fact, the records of several countries here today suggest they would be much less restrained,” she charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Haley said.
    Considering the source, I'll hold off on making any decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post

    Do you have any cute colorfull map from jews fleeing arab countries ?
    Did they get refugee status ?
    Did they not loose all their livelihoods and possessions ?

    It's a proven fact that Jews expelled from arab countries had to leave land behind four times the size of Israel.

    Take your map and shove it some whiny old muslim bitches ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    Considering the source, I'll hold off on making any decisions.
    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull told Melbourne Radio 3AW: "Hamas' conduct is confrontational. They're seeking to provoke the Israeli defense forces."
    Turnbull says: "They're pushing people to the border. In that conflict zone, you're basically pushing people into circumstances where they are very likely to be shot at."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    They're pushing people to the border. In that conflict zone, you're basically pushing people into circumstances where they are very likely to be shot at."
    Palestinians are in a corner with nothing to lose. In this and alot of other incidents they can be shown to be guilty of breaching the border and egging on the IDF.

    The border clashes and martyrdom of the Gaza residents is in response to Israel's aggression. No room for Israel to play the innocent victim here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Like they treat all their citizens, lawfully.
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ......you might want to discuss your opinion with Tibetans, Uygers, folks of the 'stans and those who disagree with the leaders of either country...

    Thanks Tomcat. I'am amazed on how OhOh gets away with posting crap like this.

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