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    Trump plans to release classified JFK documents

    By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
    Updated 1849 GMT

    (CNN)President Donald Trump said Saturday he intends to allow the release of classified government documents about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy "subject to the receipt of further information."

    Trump's tweet comes as he is staring down an October 26 deadline set in law by Congress mandating the public release of the still-secret documents -- including FBI and CIA files -- barring any action by the President to block the release of certain documents.
    "Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened," Trump said, appearing to leave open the possibility that some documents could still be withheld.



    A White House official told reporters Saturday: "The President believes that these documents should be made available in the interests of full transparency unless agencies provide a compelling and clear national security or law enforcement justification otherwise."
    The White House said in a statement to Politico earlier this week that the White House was working "to ensure that the maximum amount of data can be released to the public" by next week's deadline.

    Trump himself is no stranger to the controversies and conspiracy theories that have long swirled around the assassination of the 35th president.
    During the 2016 campaign, Trump made the unfounded claim that the father of GOP rival Sen. Ted Cruz was associated with Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, a claim he has never reneged nor apologized for.
    Trump's longtime political adviser Roger Stone, who helped launch Trump's campaign for president, is also an avid conspiracy theorist who wrote a book about the wild claim that President Lyndon B. Johnson, Kennedy's vice president, was involved in Kennedy's assassination.
    Stone tweeted Saturday morning that he urged Trump to release the classified documents.



    Republican members of Congress, including Senate judiciary committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, of Iowa, have urged Trump to allow the full release of the documents.
    "No reason 2 keep hidden anymore," Grassley tweeted earlier this month. "Time 2 let American ppl + historians draw own conclusions."
    Historians who have studied the assassination do not believe the documents will lead to any bombshell new conclusions in the Kennedy assassination, but the documents could shed more light on facets of the investigation and Oswald's mysterious trip to Mexico City weeks before the assassination. Some have expressed concerns that the documents could be embarrassing to Mexico and damaging to US-Mexico relations.
    Trump can withhold the release of certain documents if he believes their release could pose harm to US intelligence, law enforcement, the military or US foreign relations.
    "There's going to be no smoking gun in there," Gerald Posner, the author of "Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK," told CNN's Michael Smerconish. "But anybody who thinks this is going to turn the case on its head and suddenly show that there were three or four shooters at Dealey Plaza -- it's not the case."
    "Oswald did it alone," Posner continued. "But what the files are doing and why they're important to come out is they fill in the history of the case and show us how the FBI and CIA repeatedly hid the evidence."
    Posner said that the conspiracy theories about the CIA and mob working together to assassinate a head of state are true -- but the target was Cuban leader Fidel Castro, not Kennedy.
    "They tried seven times and they couldn't even wound him. ... They couldn't get rid of Castro, but somehow these same guys who were an 'F' there pulled off the perfect crime in Dallas, and 54 years later we can find not a shred of evidence about it. I just don't buy it," he said.
    Ken Hughes, a presidential researcher at the University of Virginia's Miller Center, told CNN the files could shed light on the US involvement in the attempts to assassinate Castro as well as the US-approved coup of South Vietnamese leader Ngô Đình Diệm in 1963.
    "There's a lot for conventional historians -- we non-conspiracy theorists -- to look forward to," he said.
    CNN's Eric Levenson, Melissa Mahtani and Allie Malloy contributed to this report.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/21/po...nts/index.html
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    Could be interesting, but seeing how trump said it, I'll believe when I see it.

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    A retired FBI Agent and Police Chief, who was one of the original investigators in Dallas examining the JFK assassination, stumbles upon records and reports that were doctored. He knows that, because he filed the original reports. His decade long investigation would take him deep into history and to the National Archives and beyond. Step by step he says he learned and can prove that Oswald did not kill JFK.

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    Just another diversion.

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    Release a load of red herrings and false information more like.

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    ^ duh.

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    Another turd on the heaping pile of JFK shit.

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    For sure someone killed him, in '63 they didn't have holograms.

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    Still no tax returns though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    For sure someone killed him, in '63 they didn't have holograms.
    Didn't they?
    The development of the laser enabled the first practical optical holograms that recorded 3D objects to be made inn1962 by Yuri Denisyuk in the Soviet Union and by Emmett Leith and Juris Upatnieks at the University of Michigan, USA.

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    Do you suppose the first things trump asked when he entered the oval office were:

    1. Do I get to know who shot JFK?
    2. Are UFOs real?

    Notice there's no news about what happened at Roswell.......

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    Originally Posted by jabir (Trump plans to release classified JFK documents)
    For sure someone killed him, in '63 they didn't have holograms.



    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Didn't they?

    The development of the laser enabled the first practical optical holograms that recorded 3D objects to be made inn1962 by Yuri Denisyuk in the Soviet Union and by Emmett Leith and Juris Upatnieks at the University of Michigan, USA.
    Wow, wiped me out that did.

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    Beside by some junk media (see thread about Mandalay killing) now slowly also other (recognized) media announcing: it's released but...

    Thousands of JFK assassination documents are released, though Trump orders some to be kept secret for now Thousands of JFK assassination documents are released, though Trump orders some to be kept secret for now - LA Times

    Trump delays release of some JFK assassination files, bowing to national security concerns
    Trump delays release of some JFK assassination files, bowing to national security concerns - Chicago Tribune

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    Another promise that the retarded President Trump couldn't keep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Another promise that the retarded President Trump couldn't keep.
    "Subject to the receipt of further information"

    Which he got, and kept them classified.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Another promise that the retarded President Trump couldn't keep.
    indeed, he seems to be carving easily to the CIA

    maybe they promised him to have the Russian investigation go away

    and of course what are they hiding that is soooo political with the CIA, that they make up some facts and did some special effects with pics of the President ?

    wouldn't be the first time

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    A real present danger to the national security that the one(s) who pulled the trigger and is now X+53 years old will pull the trigger again (on who?).

    How transparent and comforting (for the ones who loves their govt) to know how the govt is caring for their safety...

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    According to Trump it was

    The Democrats
    The Press
    The Mexicans
    Hilary...

    I'm sure he's hoping to take away attention from his train wreck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsonandson View Post
    Trump plans to release classified JFK documents
    Best JFK video I've watched.


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    Oswald killer Jack Ruby told FBI informant to ‘watch the fireworks’ the day JFK was shot – documents
    Published time: 18 Nov, 2017

    Freshly released FBI records show that Jack Ruby, the man who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, asked an FBI informant if he wanted to “watch the fireworks” just hours before President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in 1963.
    The document, which was among 10,744 files released by the National Archive on Friday, outlines what an FBI informant told officials about Ruby, hinting that the nightclub owner may have known that Kennedy was going to be targeted.

    In March 1977, nearly 14 years after JFK's assassination, the chief of the intelligence division of the Internal Revenue Service, Robert J. Potrykus, hand delivered a letter to the agent Ted L. Gunderson of the FBI's Dallas office which outlined that Ruby telephoned the informant on the morning of the fatal shooting of the president and asked him if he wanted to go to watch the presidential parade.

    "The informant stated that on the morning of the assassination, Ruby contacted him and asked if he would 'like to watch the fireworks,’” the letter reads.

    “He was with Jack Ruby and standing at the corner of the Postal Annex Building facing the Texas School Book Depository Building at the time of the shooting. Immediately after the shooting, Ruby left and headed toward the area of the Dallas Morning News Building.”

    The follow up documentation reveals that the informant was Bob Vanderslice of Dallas. In 1977 he told the FBI that Ruby said nothing to him immediately after the assassination. However after Ruby was arrested for killing Oswald, Vanderslice was also arrested on an unrelated charge, and he got to know Ruby better in Dallas County Jail.

    Former marine Oswald was formally charged with killing the president before being gunned down by Ruby, as he was being transported to the county jail, just two days after the assassination in November 1963. Ruby later died in prison.

    The Warren Commission, which was set up to investigate the president's death, concluded that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald and that Oswald acted entirely alone. It also concluded that Jack Ruby also acted alone when he killed Oswald.

    The National Archives has been releasing JFK assassination records in batches. An earlier release revealed no connection between Oswald and the CIA, undermining the popular theory that Oswald was a CIA operative.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/410303-fbi-do...jack-ruby-jfk/

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    Oswald was involved indirectly with the killing of JFK. He was an CIA informant. He was a patsy for the assassination and was supposed to have been killed by police officers on leaving the rear of the cinema where they found him. The plan went tits up and Oswald went out the front exit. Ruby was then assigned, by Mafia mobsters, to kill Oswald. No big deal as Ruby knew he was dying from cancer anyway.

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    Oswald was a good choice for his Soviet's connections (and Cuba's either)

    JFK assassination: What was Lee Harvey Oswald doing in the USSR?

    Published time: 26 Oct, 2017

    Ahead of the long anticipated release of classified documents regarding President Kennedy’s assassination, RT retraces a significant chapter in the life of the president’s killer – Lee Harvey Oswald’s trip to the Soviet Union.
    RT’s Ilya Petrenko visited some of the places made up Oswald’s extraordinary trip to the Soviet Union in a failed attempt to obtain citizenship. He arrived in Moscow in 1959, just four years before he assassinated the 35th president of the United States, John F. Kennedy.

    Upon arrival in the USSR, Oswald attempted to convince the KGB to grant him Soviet citizenship, but was denied. On the eve of his tourist visa expiring, he tried to commit suicide, which delayed his departure from the Soviet Union. He was later granted permission for temporary stay and was sent to work in the Soviet Republic of Belarus where he met his future wife. Disillusioned with the USSR, he left with his family just one year before pulling the trigger on the president.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/407816-jfk-oswald-soviet-trip/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    he left with his family just one year before pulling the trigger on the president.
    He didn't shoot JFK. I think that that is the general conclusion these days.

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