Thread: Shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Imo....The hotel's covering up for sloppy security. With all the cameras the timeline should be well documented in the hotel's computer. But somehow it's getting muddled.

I doubt the shooter had any accomplices or political agenda. Just another nutcase with a gun fetish.

Agree on both counts. No big, hidden agenda. Just a nutter.

It’s obvious to Tucker. The Jesus the Mexican did it.

Originally Posted by Wilsonandson

What a drongo. Talk about grasping at straws.
Desperately trying to make something out of nothing.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Desperately trying to make something out of nothing

...Fox News motto...

Matter of national security

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Matter of national security

What's a matter of 'national security'?

Originally Posted by Cujo

What's a matter of 'national security'?

exactly...

Originally Posted by Cujo

What's a matter of 'national security'?

You're not cleared to view that post, Skippy.

Above his "doggy grits" pay grade ?

Las Vegas Sheriff Says Gunman of Mass Shooting Had Been Losing Money

WASHINGTON — A Las Vegas sheriff says the man who killed 58 people at a country music festival in the city last month had lost a significant amount of money in the two years before the shooting and had “bouts of depression.”


Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo told Las Vegas news station KLAS-TV that the loss of money may have been a “determining factor” in why gunman Stephen Paddock carried out the mass shooting.


Investigators have still not determined exactly what led Paddock to open fire at a country music festival on Oct. 1 from his high-rise suite. Paddock fatally shot himself after the mass shooting, which also left more than 500 people wounded.

“Since September 2015, he's lost a significant amount of wealth, and I think that might have been a determining factor on what he was determined to do,” Lombardo said in the interview.
He described Paddock as a narcissist who may have seen his image as a high-rolling gambler declining.

“This individual was status-driven based on how he liked to be recognized in the casino environment and how he liked to be recognized by his friends and family,” the sheriff said.

“So obviously that was starting to decline in the short period of time and that may have had a determining effect on why decided to do what he did.”


Lombardo confirmed that the gunman's girlfriend, Marilou Danley, continues to be interviewed and is still considered a “person of interest.” Danley has repeatedly denied knowing anything about the attack.


Lombardo said investigators have found that Paddock carefully planned his attack and was “purposeful in concealing his actions.” He said hard drives that were removed from the computers found at Paddock's hotel have not been found.

https://www.voanews.com/a/las-vegas-...y/4099316.html

Interesting article with unanswered and unasked questions, with links to Daily Caller and Las Vegas Review:

...Fact: No one just wakes up one morning, walks out the door starts slaughtering people. It doesn’t happen that way. Even serial killer has a history of something- like animal cruelty or sex abuse…there’s ALWAYS something. We’re being led to believe there is nothing here. Does anybody care anymore?

• What was the gunman’s motive?
• When did the gunman start planning his massacre?
• Where did the gunman store all of the weapons before the shooting?
• Why did the gunman stop shooting? Considering the gunman killed himself, why are investigators withholding so much information about the case? Do they believe he had accomplices?
• What was the gunman planning to do with the explosives found in his car?
• What evidence shows he might have planned to escape?
• What exactly were the 23 guns found in the hotel suite? How many were equipped with bump stocks? How many had been fired? How many jammed? How many rounds did he fire?
• What else was recovered from the gunman’s hotel room and his homes in Mesquite and Reno?
• When did authorities determine the hard drive from the gunman’s laptop was missing?
• What, if anything, did Marilou Danley, the gunman’s girlfriend, know before the shooting? Where is she now, and is she still a person of interest?
• Why didn’t Mandalay Bay notice the gunman’s hidden cameras, drilling into walls and the barred door? Did alarms go off when the gunman broke the windows in his suite?
• What kind of surveillance does Mandalay Bay have in its hotel hallways?
• Is there any indication that the gunman was considering acts of violence during visits to Ogden during Life is Beautiful or the Blackstone in Chicago during the Lollapalooza festival?
• Did Mandalay Bay have any armed security guards in the resort when the shooting started?
• Who took the photos of the dead gunman and his room after the shooting? Where does the investigation into this leak stand?
• MGM Resorts is providing room and board for Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos. Is it also taking care of building engineer Steven Schuck?
• Did hotel staff notice anything out of the ordinary about the gunman’s behavior in the days leading up to the shooting? Were red flags ignored?
• How long was the do not disturb sign posted on his room? Did housekeeping or room service ever visit the room?
• What does Mandalay Bay surveillance footage show about the gunman’s movements and activities in the days before the shooting?
• How many Mandalay Bay employees knew of the gunman’s presence in the hotel? How many interacted with him before he started shooting?
• How many VIP hosts did the gunman, who was a slot high roller, have on the Strip?
• Is there any evidence to indicate the gunman was frustrated with his comps?
• Did he change his gambling habits for this trip and did his hosts notice?
• Was the gunman’s girlfriend aware that he used her comps to obtain his suite?
• How many times did the gunman leave the Mandalay Bay property during his hotel stay?
• Did Mandalay Bay and other MGM properties have more guards stationed before the financial crisis and near bankruptcy?

https://news.unclesamsmisguidedchild...s-keep-piling/

This could be the most important clue: Does anybody care anymore?

Originally Posted by jabir

Does anybody care anymore?

...nah, looking forward to holiday slaughter and gut-exploding mayhem in busy malls or sparkling midnight mass at a cathedral...now that's entertainment...

^^Alot of those questions have been answered already. Not really seeing what the relevance of them are, anyawy....just an article to feed the conspiracy nutcakes.


This shit'll continue til the insurance lobbies can outplay the NRA.

Originally Posted by jabir

Fact: No one just wakes up one morning, walks out the door starts slaughtering people

A very questionable "fact". Plus there is always a first time.

Originally Posted by Norton

A very questionable "fact".

A lot of people don't understand what the word means - FACT

Originally Posted by jabir

Interesting article with unanswered and unasked questions, with links to Daily Caller and Las Vegas Review:

...Fact: No one just wakes up one morning, walks out the door starts slaughtering people. It doesn’t happen that way. Even serial killer has a history of something- like animal cruelty or sex abuse…there’s ALWAYS something. We’re being led to believe there is nothing here. Does anybody care anymore?

• What was the gunman’s motive?
• When did the gunman start planning his massacre?
• Where did the gunman store all of the weapons before the shooting?
• Why did the gunman stop shooting? Considering the gunman killed himself, why are investigators withholding so much information about the case? Do they believe he had accomplices?
• What was the gunman planning to do with the explosives found in his car?
• What evidence shows he might have planned to escape?
• What exactly were the 23 guns found in the hotel suite? How many were equipped with bump stocks? How many had been fired? How many jammed? How many rounds did he fire?
• What else was recovered from the gunman’s hotel room and his homes in Mesquite and Reno?
• When did authorities determine the hard drive from the gunman’s laptop was missing?
• What, if anything, did Marilou Danley, the gunman’s girlfriend, know before the shooting? Where is she now, and is she still a person of interest?
• Why didn’t Mandalay Bay notice the gunman’s hidden cameras, drilling into walls and the barred door? Did alarms go off when the gunman broke the windows in his suite?
• What kind of surveillance does Mandalay Bay have in its hotel hallways?
• Is there any indication that the gunman was considering acts of violence during visits to Ogden during Life is Beautiful or the Blackstone in Chicago during the Lollapalooza festival?
• Did Mandalay Bay have any armed security guards in the resort when the shooting started?
• Who took the photos of the dead gunman and his room after the shooting? Where does the investigation into this leak stand?
• MGM Resorts is providing room and board for Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos. Is it also taking care of building engineer Steven Schuck?
• Did hotel staff notice anything out of the ordinary about the gunman’s behavior in the days leading up to the shooting? Were red flags ignored?
• How long was the do not disturb sign posted on his room? Did housekeeping or room service ever visit the room?
• What does Mandalay Bay surveillance footage show about the gunman’s movements and activities in the days before the shooting?
• How many Mandalay Bay employees knew of the gunman’s presence in the hotel? How many interacted with him before he started shooting?
• How many VIP hosts did the gunman, who was a slot high roller, have on the Strip?
• Is there any evidence to indicate the gunman was frustrated with his comps?
• Did he change his gambling habits for this trip and did his hosts notice?
• Was the gunman’s girlfriend aware that he used her comps to obtain his suite?
• How many times did the gunman leave the Mandalay Bay property during his hotel stay?
• Did Mandalay Bay and other MGM properties have more guards stationed before the financial crisis and near bankruptcy?

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All of those can be answered with a simple "what does it matter".

Originally Posted by cyrille

A lot of people don't understand what the word means - FACT

Seems everyone these days has facts but no opinions. Alternate reality anyone?

Vegas Police Chief for one loves to run his mouth and jump in front of the camera. Has put out a lot of BS.

Actually, Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock’s massacre was highly predictable

you guys keep confusing facts with opinions,

we all know the facts, but they don't agree with the "opinion" of authorities

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

you guys keep confusing facts with opinions,

we all know the facts, but they don't agree with the "opinion" of authorities

I'm pretty sure the authorities know he was fucked in the head.

The only question is whether or not they should have seen it coming.

And whether or not the hotels might actually implement some security that protects something other than their precious fucking winnings.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And whether or not the hotels might actually implement some security that protects something other than their precious fucking winnings.

Perhaps they could restrict personal baggage to less than 40 guns per guest?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Perhaps they could restrict personal baggage to less than 40 guns per guest?

Nah, I expect the NRA would scream "Boycott" at the first one to do it.