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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    Smoke billows from Russian consulate in San Francisco, day after WH orders it shut
    When the US diplomats are leaving do they to leave their "love letters" for Wikileaks?
    In fact, no need to worry, Assange has got it already on his hard disk anyway.

    Wondering what everything is allowed by some? Perhaps they haven't read the Vianna Conventions re Diplomat Immunity?

    Surely a correct step for calming the very disturbed relation among many world parties involved?

    Even during the deepest Cold War times the diplomat immunity of any country have been hardly violated, not even by opening their car or luggage when crossing the border...

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    Pyongyang: U.S. customs agents ‘mugged’ North Korean diplomats at JFK airport
    By Carlo Muñoz - The Washington Times - Sunday, June 18, 2017

    The North Korean regime is accusing U.S. customs agents in New York of “mugging” a diplomatic delegation from the secretive, totalitarian country.

    U.S. officials on Friday forcibly confiscated a diplomatic package being carried by a member of the North Korean delegation, as they passed through U.S. customs screening after landing at John F. Kennedy International Airport, Reuters reports.

    A spokesman for North Korea’s Foreign Ministry characterized the confiscation as “an illegal and heinous act of provocation,” adding that his country’s diplomats were “literally mugged” upon entering the United States.

    “Diplomats of a sovereign state are being robbed of a diplomatic package in the middle of New York where the headquarters of the United Nations is located and that serves as the venue for international meetings including the United Nations General Assembly,” the spokesman said in a statement to state-run KCNA news agency.

    “This clearly shows that the U.S. is a felonious and lawless gangster state,” he added.

    State Department officials declined to comment on the incident or what the confiscated package contained.

    Pyongyang: U.S. customs agents 'mugged' North Korean diplomats at JFK airport - Washington Times

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    Russia condemns US 'plans' to search Washington trade mission
    2 September 2017

    Russia's foreign ministry has summoned a top US diplomat in Moscow to protest against a search it says American officials are planning of a Russian trade mission building in Washington.

    It said the inspection would be "illegal" and an "unprecedented aggressive action".
    The US government has not responded.

    Russia's diplomatic building in Washington is one of three due to be closed on Saturday as part of tit-for-tat actions between the two countries.
    The US state department announced on Thursday that it would require Russia to shut the complexes - in Washington, New York and San Francisco - in response to enforced staff cuts at the US mission in Russia. It did not mention that searches would be conducted.

    But in a statement released on Saturday, the Russian foreign ministry said it had summoned Anthony Godfrey, a deputy chief of mission at the US embassy in Moscow, and handed him a note in protest at the supposed plans.

    It said it feared the US intelligence service could use the search to "orchestrate an anti-Russian provocation by planting compromising items".

    "We consider the planned illegal search of Russian diplomatic premises in the absence of Russian officials and the threat we have received to break down the door of the building as an unprecedented aggressive action," the statement said (in Russian).

    Russia condemns US 'plans' to search Washington trade mission - BBC News

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    ^ Tit for tat is exactly what it is. A month ago...

    U.S. embassy in Moscow says locked out of diplomatic property

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - The U.S. embassy in Moscow accused Russian authorities on Monday of barring diplomatic staff from a property on the outskirts of Moscow, after having earlier agreed to grant access until midday on Tuesday for them to retrieve belongings.

    A Russian foreign ministry official, quoted by state news agency RIA, said the U.S. embassy had sent in its trucks without first obtaining permits which, the official said, are required by law because the property is in a conservation area.

    More

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1AG23M

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    We need another Canada-Russia hockey series to calm things down...

    Da, da, Canada!...Nyet, nyet, Soviet!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    ^ Tit for tat is exactly what it is. A month ago...
    Was it on 2-days notice?

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    Sometimes you just have to laugh.

    Imagine an alternative universe where US officials reacted with outrage on Saturday after the Russian Foreign Ministry announced it was closing the US Consulate in Vladivostok and giving staff only 48 hours’ notice to evacuate.

    In Vladivostok, the operations won’t be restricted to US consular offices in the Far Eastern city, but will also take place at the apartments of staff who live in the building and who have diplomatic immunity. To perform those searches, Russian authorities have ordered those staff members and their families, including children and babies, to leave their homes for up to 12 hours.

    Obviously, the above is a joke. But the fact the US gave Russia two days last weekend to shut its San Francisco Consulate is no laughing matter.

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/401951-ru...cy-escalation/


    Moscow will retaliate over consulate row, but not like deviant hooligan America – Russian deputy FM

    Moscow will take action in response to the way the US handled the closer of its diplomatic facilities, but will it won't be a mirror response, because Russia considers Washington’s actions “deviant behavior” and “state hooliganism”, Russian deputy foreign minister said.

    “We shouldn’t try to be like them. We never say that any unfriendly or hostile action by America should be responded to with a counteraction that replicates the American line, which leads towards political and judicial lawlessness,” Sergey Ryabkov told journalists on Monday.

    https://www.rt.com/news/401950-russs...sulate-search/

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    Deviant behaviour and state hooliganism, much better to indulge in a war of amusing words than sabre rattling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    ^ Tit for tat is exactly what it is. A month ago...
    Was it on 2-days notice?
    No, a three day notice, then cut short a day and a half.

    Though all this, Russian has not and will never admit this was started with their interference in the US elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    ^ Tit for tat is exactly what it is. A month ago...
    Was it on 2-days notice?
    No, a three day notice, then cut short a day and a half.

    Though all this, Russian has not and will never admit this was started with their interference in the US elections.
    Even if it's true, how clever to say to own people that the election - most expensive in the world and paid by the population anyway - is so vulnerable that anybody can influence it (not only by the adversaries).

    Haven't the people got it already?

    (same like: we have the best "defence" army in the world but few guys who just learned to fly a Cessna - controlled by a caveman from the other side of the world - can shut us down...)

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    ^ Besides you think the US should have had its elections better secured, I have no idea what the rest of this post means.

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    ^
    What I think? The same what the leaders and their MSM think - about their people whom they daily serve the massage at their TV's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    ^ Besides you think the US should have had its elections better secured, I have no idea what the rest of this post means.
    FYI~ https://youtu.be/Ko6J9v1C9zE

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    US Ambassador Defends Russian Diplomatic Property Expulsions

    WASHINGTON —
    The outgoing U.S. ambassador to Russia, John Tefft, has defended the expulsion of Russian diplomats from seized consular property in the United States amid an increasing strain in diplomatic ties.

    In a joint interview Wednesday in Moscow with the Russian services of VOA News and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Tefft rejected statements in Russian media that the seizing of diplomatic property in San Francisco, New York and Washington was done in what Russian President Vladimir Putin called a "boorish and unprecedented" fashion.

    Putin accused U.S. authorities of threatening to "break down the entrance door" of the Russian Consulate in San Francisco after Washington set a September 2 deadline for the premises to be evacuated.

    "Nobody broke down doors. Nobody put undue pressure on people. It was all done very, very carefully — and, in compliance with the Vienna Conventions," Tefft said.

    Court battle

    Speaking in China on Tuesday, Putin said, "Let's see how well the much-praised American legal system works in practice."

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told his U.S. counterpart, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, in a telephone call on Wednesday that Russia had initiated legal proceedings for what was a "violation of international law."

    U.S. President Donald Trump reduced Russia's consular facilities this month after the Kremlin demanded the U.S. cut its diplomatic staff in Russia to 455 people.

    Russia said it was imposing the demand as a countermeasure to new U.S. sanctions over alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election and to achieve "parity" with the level of the Russian diplomatic presence in the U.S. Trump's closing of the Russian consulate and two annexes brought the number of Russian diplomatic facilities in the U.S. even with the number of U.S. facilities in Russia.

    "But when we used parity to withdraw our consent for the Russian government to have a consulate in San Francisco, then everyone got all excited. And, you know, parity is parity," Tefft noted.

    Tefft: Reduction not voluntary

    Russia's Foreign Ministry gave conflicting statements, implying that the U.S. had voluntarily reduced its staff, a notion also rejected outright by Tefft.

    However, Tefft said in the interview that it was false to suggest that Washington "negotiated or somehow signed on to the idea of reducing our staff."

    "We were told to do that. That was not something that was negotiated," he said.

    Russian officials say they are considering how to respond to the reduction of their U.S. consular facilities.

    Despite the downward spiraling diplomatic relations, Tefft has urged Russia to join U.S. allies in Asia and Western governments in pressuring North Korea to end its nuclear weapons program.

    "While the focus, at this point, is on the United States, I noted one of the earlier missiles a few weeks ago, you know, landed 60 kilometers off of Vladivostok in the water," Tefft said. "This is a regional and now becoming a global threat. It's not just against the United States, it's against all of us.

    "One of the things that Secretary Tillerson and Foreign Minister Lavrov agreed, when they saw each other here in March, was that the United States and Russia both believed the Korean Peninsula should be non-nuclear.That's a fundamental which we can work on," Tefft added.

    Regular talks seen continuing

    The U.S. ambassador said there had been regular consultations between U.S. and Russian experts on North Korea and that he expected more in the next few weeks.

    "Now, getting forward, we've got to try to find the best tactics to do this. But we need strong efforts by Russia and China if we're all going to be successful," he said.

    Tefft is expected to leave Russia this year and be succeeded by Trump appointee Jon Huntsman, a former U.S. ambassador to China.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/united-sta...s/4018557.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    Despite the downward spiraling diplomatic relations, Tefft has urged Russia to join U.S. allies in Asia and Western governments in pressuring North Korea to end its nuclear weapons program.
    And also to help in Syria - or perhaps rather not?

    And no problem sending the US astronauts with Russian Soyuz rockets to space?

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    Dear Russia: An Enemy Is Not A Partner
    Paul Craig Roberts September 6, 2017

    Russians are concerned about Washington’s arbitrary closing of their San Francisco consulate and the illegal searching of diplomatic properties. There is no question that Washington has violated diplomatic protections and international law.

    Why did Washington show its outlaw face to the world?

    Was it to show that as strong as Russia is, Russia cannot protect herself from Washington? No international law, no diplomatic immunity can stand in Washington’s way. Washington can violate all law with no consequence.

    What is the real issue?

    The Real Issue is that the US military/security complex, the most powerful component of the US government, has decided that Russia is the ENEMY that justifies its $1,000 billion annual budget and the power that goes with it.

    In other words, Russia is designated America’s Number One Enemy, and there is nothing whatsoever Russian diplomacy, Russian measured responses, and Russian references to her enemy as her “partner” can do about it.

    Dear Russia, you must understand that you have been assigned the role of “the Enemy.”

    When will the Russian government cease pretending that its enemy is its partner?

    Why is Russia so determined to be part of the corrupt and declining West that Russia accepts every insult, every abuse?

    The West has room for only one autonomous power. There is no room for a second.

    The orchestrated “Korean crisis” is not about North Korea. It is an orchestration that lets Washington put nuclear missile bases on China’s border, just as the orchestrated “Iranian crisis” was the excuse for putting nuclear missile bases on Russia’s borders.

    Russia cannot be both sovereign and part of the West, and China cannot afford to confuse self-preservation with economic deals with America.

    If the two powers capable of constraining Washington’s unilateralism show confusion over the consequences, they will make war more likely.

    Dear Russia: An Enemy Is Not A Partner - PaulCraigRoberts.org

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    ^ A Roberts is just another conspiracy crank who says the Sandy Hook and the Orlando nightclub massacres didn't happen.

    Seems to love Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    Putin accused U.S. authorities of threatening to "break down the entrance door" of the Russian Consulate in San Francisco after Washington set a September 2 deadline for the premises to be evacuated.
    bullshit, another US official lying to his teeth

    it's time we unite against the USA and start to impose sanctions on that rogue state run by religious lunatics for the last 20 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    bullshit, another US official lying to his teeth

    it's time we unite against the USA and start to impose sanctions on that rogue state run by religious lunatics for the last 20 years
    The number of years (20) you've stated, is very generous. I tend to consider more like 227 years, on the 30th. day of this month, should the "truth" be told, for a change. Now, regarding your "it's time we unite" philosophy, please do not hold your breath, waiting for the average , vis_a_vis , to wake __, because it ain't gonna happen! Enjoy .

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