Thread: German election 2017: Populists to win first far-right Bundestag seats since WW2

Originally Posted by stroller

I don't recall a 3-party coalition government in Federal Germany's history, there is already talk about new elections

Only hope is with greens and fdp and CDU will need concessions to get them on board. Would be a very weak majority. New election may well be the case.

Originally Posted by Norton

CDU will need concessions to get them on board

Which is further complicated by the Bavarian CSU faction, which forms a unity with the CDU on the federal level. A very challenging situation.

Btw, I hope this makes sense, my English is getting mixed up.

Makes sense to me. The CDU/CSU-Fraktion. Not always fully aligned.

See I was so far right in my predictions, I told you she would win.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

It's classic propaganda to try and define your enemy and use all the media outlets to pump out the big lie politics - which is exactly what the far left is doing by trying to call the centre the "far right"... of course the centre is far right of the far left, that's just simple relativism that should come natural to morons who support Merkel.

Yes, yes, Merkel is far left and the media are pretending & propagating she isn't.... foking nutter!

Despite the shock result, hope for Germany remains as freedom-campaigning centre-right party, the Alternative for Germany, surges to 12.6% rescuing 90 seats from the controlling regime.

The far-left statist socialist parties have appeared to dominate the politics of the economically faltering central European country, which reportedly has a troubled past involving prolonged rule by single domineering figureheads of statist parties. The prosperity and security of the country appears to have come under threat due to aggressive immigration policies that appear to have facilitated what some commentators have described as unprecedented human trafficking, sex offending, and islamofascist terror, in both Germany and similarly statist-dominated France...

German election leaves Macron's big idea in tatters

Angela Merkel’s party might be about to lose the support of its long-standing ally, the Bavarian CSU



It will be weeks, possibly months, before Germany has a government, but the jockeying over Berlin’s policy on the euro has already begun. Among those watching nervously will be France’s Emmanuel Macron, who has staked his presidency not just on his promise to reform the French economy, but also on the idea that doing so will unlock a sustainable future for the single currency area.
Eight years after the euro crisis began, it is still in a state of living death, the blood kept flowing by massive cash infusions from the European Central Bank. Without ECB support, there would be few buyers for Italian debt, and an Italian debt crisis could bring down the whole project. France isn’t in such a bad way but government spending is far too high, it still has an unemployment problem and is plagued by fears that, if it doesn’t reform, it could go the way of Italy and enter stagnation...

German election leaves Macron's big idea in tatters

(...for the sake of some semblance of "balance")

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

for the sake of some semblance of "balance

Indeed.

Originally Posted by stroller

Yes, yes, Merkel is far left and the media are pretending & propagating she isn't.... foking nutter!

The liberals have conditioned people to believe anything right of far Left must be far right and feared. And it works a treat!

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Despite the shock result, hope for Germany remains as freedom-campaigning centre-right party, the Alternative for Germany, surges to 12.6% rescuing 90 seats from the controlling regime.

The far-left statist socialist parties have appeared to dominate the politics of the economically faltering central European country, which reportedly has a troubled past involving prolonged rule by single domineering figureheads of statist parties. The prosperity and security of the country appears to have come under threat due to aggressive immigration policies that appear to have facilitated what some commentators have described as unprecedented human trafficking, sex offending, and islamofascist terror, in both Germany and similarly statist-dominated France...

Dead men walking (EU) can be forgiven for thinking they're invincible.

Originally Posted by jabir

The liberals have conditioned people to believe anything right of far Left must be far right and feared. And it works a treat!

Oh dear, oh dear.

No, nobody believes SPD, FDP or CDU are far right and should be feared.

Originally Posted by stroller

Oh dear, oh dear.

No, nobody believes SPD, FDP or CDU are far right and should be feared.

Thank you for helping me understand the situation because all I have to go on is the BBC reports and they are telling the public that it's 1930's Germany all over again.
Myself I don't believe them, Germany are bigger pussies than the English, it's nothing like the tough 1930's fit race of Germany.

Originally Posted by jabir

The liberals have conditioned people to believe anything right of far Left must be far right and feared. And it works a treat!

Whatever next, you seem to have utter papperlapapp on the brain at the moment.

May I suggest you wear a hat when you go out in the sun...

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

It will be weeks, possibly months, before Germany has a government, but the jockeying over Berlin’s policy on the euro has already begun. Among those watching nervously will be France’s Emmanuel Macron, who has staked his presidency not just on his promise to reform the French economy, but also on the idea that doing so will unlock a sustainable future for the single currency area.

The CDU's main potential coalition partner, the Liberal Democrats, who stand for free enterprise, less regulation on all levels and are opposed to increasing central EU authority, including monetary budgets (of course another "statist, far Left party" ) may well block the CDU's agreement for plans of central EU controlled finances.

The AfD is still a young party which hasn't solidified. Noticable there is a fundamentalist wing, which is content with being attack dogs in the opposition, and a more moderate one, which envisions compromising to take part in a future government coalition - the prominent Petry walked out a day after the election, following incendiary comments by the hard-core rightwing party leader Gauland.

Originally Posted by wasabi

all I have to go on is the BBC reports and they are telling the public that it's 1930's Germany all over again.

Then you haven't made an effort to read and comprehend.

German election: Just how right-wing is AfD? - BBC News

Published on Nov 6, 2015
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It's not racism it's that refugees won't go back when the war is over. It's free citzenship to rich European countries. It's not about displacement due to the war, its about making a financial decision. Go to the west and live the dream.

I'm working in Thailand for peanuts and I'm a British Citizen. If I return to the U.K I would recieve little or no help in the way of child support, housing, benifets, hand outs like a refugee does. That's why people Brexited. F- the Euro, F- Merkel and F off refugees. Go home.

Originally Posted by Wilsonandson

I'm working in Thailand for peanuts and I'm a British Citizen. If I return to the U.K I would recieve little or no help in the way of child support, housing, benifets, hand outs like a refugee does. That's why people Brexited. F- the Euro, F- Merkel and F off refugees. Go home.

Same same Australia, went back, may be Australian, but a non resident, over 6 months away, non tax payer now.

Welfare, Centerlink, find a soup kitcken and a bridge to sleep under, better I had flushed may passport at the airport and looked supid, would have had housing, food and medical.

Australia, fuk it, I would give up my passport tomorrow for a Thai one, at least I could die in a wat, other then in a doorway.

Originally Posted by Wilsonandson

It's free citzenship to rich European countries.

Only in your fevered imagination.

Originally Posted by Wilsonandson

If I return to the U.K I would recieve little or no help in the way of child support, housing, benifets, hand outs like a refugee does. That's why people Brexited.

So, after Brexit you will receive free housing & benefits when you return?
Priority over refugees (they'll still come), disadvantaged families, single mothers etc.?


Dream on... but yeah, blame Merkel and the EURO.

Originally Posted by Wilsonandson

F- the Euro, F- Merkel and F off refugees. Go home.

German Election: The AfD Profits from Non-Voters and Merkel Defectors | ZEIT ONLINE

Not going to copy here but worth a read.