Thread: German election 2017: Populists to win first far-right Bundestag seats since WW2

Originally Posted by Troy

Merkel will be safely re-elected. Nothing to get the Brexiteers hopes up when it comes to Germany. The people are as sensible and reliable as their soccer team. Pity the same can no longer be said for the brits....

I don't think even the most fervent brexiteer expects Germany to leave the EU more than likely Germany will be the last country remaining. Still a good ten plus years away from that point though.

Ten max.

Originally Posted by Wilsonandson

GERMANY is set to have its first far-right party elected to Parliament since the end of World War 2, if polls for the upcoming state elections are correct.

By ROSS LOGAN
PUBLISHED: 13:13, Thu, Aug 31, 2017 | UPDATED: 13:34, Thu, Aug 31, 2017



The AfD party are set to be the first far-right party at the Bundestag since WW2

Nevertheless AfD remains on course for an historic victory next month, a prospect that will set alarm bells ringing across much of Europe, Politico reported.

And the party has done so despite repeated comparisons to the Nazis, an accusation

Both Ms Merkel and her Social Democrat rival Martin Schulz branded the comments "racist".

Mr Schulz said: “We must do everything to ensure that such racists don’t enter the Bundestag!”

I couldn't help but notice - are brown jackets back in fashion for Germany after 70 years ?

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

are brown jackets back in fashion for Germany

BERLIN (Reuters) - Fears in Germany that voter apathy could boost the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) in Sunday’s election have driven Chancellor Angela Merkel and her main rival in final days of the campaign to urge their backers to go out and vote.


With many voters viewing a fourth term for Merkel as almost inevitable and turned off by a turgid campaign - occasionally punctured by heckling and tomato hurling in protest at Merkel's refugee policy - pollsters say turnout may be low.




A GMS poll on Thursday said those not planning to vote or were undecided numbered 34 percent, higher than the 29 percent who did not vote in the last election in 2013.


“My request to everyone is that they vote, and vote for those parties that adhere 100 percent to our constitution,” Merkel told MDR radio on Thursday, pointing to the AfD which has been likened by some commentators to Hitler’s Nazis.


Some of its members have called for Germans to rewrite the history books on Nazi era and the party has been dogged by rows over Holocaust denial, a crime in Germany.


Fearing far-right surge, Merkel tells Germans to vote on Sunday | Reuters

Too late to fear the mad fuhrer Merkel, she's already destroyed the country. Now the nut job is telling Germany to fear anybody who doesn't support her .

She is an experienced and influential politician, so the problem isn't her urging the people to fear opposition to her policies that have irreversibly triggered the end of not just her country but others which will speed along when she is re-elected, it's that so many voters will fall for it.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Don't ignore the Turks ...

The diplomatic fallout between Turkey and Germany can be felt even from the sidelines of a suburban soccer match in Munich.

Last month, Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan called on Turks in Germany to vote against the major political parties in the September 24 election.


The comments drew a furious response from conservative Chancellor Angela Merkel and have shone a spotlight on the 3 million people of Turkish descent who call Germany home.
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Could be home is not always where the heart is.

Merkel should be tied up and shot for treason.

She has fooked Germany by flooding the shit house with Immigrants.

Germany can now look forward to a bleak economic future .

A great legacy she has left the German people. ??????

She is actually a very thoughtful and considered politician. Ex East German who understood the potential crippling effects of the country’s very low birth rate.
Using refugees to bridge that gap by importing ready made employees at all levels was actually a smart move.

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I agree with you, Merkel is certainly a decent human being but one cannot flood a country with refugees without causing serious unrest.

The unrest is happening right now and she will pay with her political life.

Letting the East Germans integrate was a great leap forward but these outside boat people coming in by the many thousands. ??

No way.

Originally Posted by terry57

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I agree with you, Merkel is certainly a decent human being but one cannot flood a country with refugees without causing serious unrest.

The unrest is happening right now and she will pay with her political life.

Letting the East Germans integrate was a great leap forward but these outside boat people coming in by the many thousands. ??

No way.

She’s more concerned about the far right getting a serious wedge of votes.
The former East Germans also feel hard done by since unification.

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Yer well that happens when a leader goes against what most people would call a reasonable amount of refugees being allowed into the country.

The amount of refugees in Germany now is totally over the top.

A true leader knows when to stem the flow such as has now happened in Australia.

Merkel has the long term in mind mate. She is a very deep thinker, and probably realizes she got it wrong on immigration numbers. It does help the very low birth rate in the long run and industry understands this.
her main worry for Sunday is a low turn out making fringe parties look good.
Europe and Australia are not comparable.
Remember Germany is used to ‘guest workers’ from post WWII. Poles, Turks, Portuguese all there in large numbers.

Why all the fuss anyway she's going to win regardless.

Originally Posted by jabir

She is an experienced and influential politician, so the problem isn't her urging the people to fear opposition to her policies that have irreversibly triggered the end of not just her country but others which will speed along when she is re-elected, it's that so many voters will fall for it.

"triggered"?



It's classic propaganda to try and define your enemy and use all the media outlets to pump out the big lie politics - which is exactly what the far left is doing by trying to call the centre the "far right"... of course the centre is far right of the far left, that's just simple relativism that should come natural to morons who support Merkel.

Germany, like much of western Europe has no decent alternatives to the reckless imbeciles that rule over it, because the left-wing media machine will personally vilify anyone who dissents from the party line... we are in a literal "sinister mediocracy" - government by left-wing media.

...and anyone who calls them out will be attacked as a "far right loon" - this dribbling and belching out of the frothy mouths of the puritan book-burning far-left loons... cue TD's own tedious lumpen moronotariat and pseduointelligensia...

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

It's classic propaganda to try and define your enemy and use all the media outlets to pump out the big lie politics - which is exactly what the far left is doing by trying to call the centre the "far right"... of course the centre is far right of the far left, that's just simple relativism that should come natural to morons who support Merkel.

This probably explains why Germany is such a highly respected and profitable industrial power house. It clearly has nought to do with Merkel’s disastrous leadership over so many years.
I often wonder why Germany is widely regarded as the de facto CEO of the European Union.

Originally Posted by jabir

She is an experienced and influential politician, so the problem isn't her urging the people to fear opposition to her policies that have irreversibly triggered the end of not just her country but others which will speed along when she is re-elected, it's that so many voters will fall for it.

So when do you expect Germany to actually 'end', jabir?

Originally Posted by stroller

They are not popular, but "populist" in the sense that they appeal to wide range of people across the political spectrum by taking grievances & frustrations seriously and offering cheap solutions. Similar to the Labour Party their platform consists of a very narrow range of issues.

As inevitable with issues of undermining immigration control, undermining national identity etc., the party is infested with extremists, which has already reduced the initial popularity.
More than 5% of the votes is still a lot, but keep in mind that a sizable proportion will be protest votes from people who are dissatisfied with mainstream democratic politics.

Similarly, the "Pirates" had a brief surge in popularity a few years ago, but have disappeared into obscurity now.

Clearly. Anyone who imagines the purpose of politicians is to give people the things they vote for, is deluded, deplorable, or deranged. The extreme left calling centre parties like the AfD "far right" is joke... we all know it's the sinister statists using a cryptonym for evil to try and make people who vote (off message) for what they want, pariahs.

lol, you really don't have a clue, 'Nemo' (sic).

Originally Posted by Norton

The far-right, anti-immigration AfD made a historic breakthrough, winning 13.5% of the vote and a projected 87 seats and becoming the first overtly nationalist party to sit in the Bundestag in 60 years. The party’s performance marks a major shift in Germany’s postwar politics that is likely to produce a very different tone and dynamic inside the Bundestag.

Going to make it harder to form a ruling coalition but but keep in mind 87% rejected the right.