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    Did a Danish entrepreneur sink his homemade submarine with a journalist aboard?

    The Danish inventor charged with manslaughter over the suspected death of a Swedish journalist wanted to fly into space and once said he was "a curse" on the submarine at the centre of the case.



    Peter Madsen, 46, was rescued after his DIY submarine, the UC3 Nautilus, sank off Copenhagen at about midnight last Thursday.

    Swedish journalist Kim Wall, 30, was on the submarine just before it sank and has not been seen since. Madsen said he dropped her off before the sinking, but he's facing a manslaughter charge as investigators search for her body.

    The story is a big deal in both affected countries: It has been the lead story, or featured prominently, on news websites including Denmark's main English-language newspaper the Copenhagen Post, and Sweden's largest newspaper, Helsingborgs Dagblad — not to mention the international coverage.
    Who is Peter Madsen?
    Danish engineer Peter Madsen speaking to a crowd at Dansk Erhverv
    Photo: Danish engineer Peter Madsen speaking to a crowd (Supplied: Storyful)

    Peter Madsen is a self-taught aerospace engineer who calls himself an "inventrepaneur". He "designs and manufactures non-commercial extreme machines, employing teams of volunteering engineers and technicians to challenge the ordinary".

    From 2001-2008 he built three submarines — the seven-metre-long UC1 Freya, launched in 2002 and decommissioned in 2006, the 12.6-metre-long UC2 Kraka, launched in 2005 and now an exhibit at Denmark's Technical Museum in Helsingor, and the UC3 Nautilus.

    He has moved on from submarines to spaceflight, but has kept a firm grip on the Nautilus through multiple changes of ownership and acrimonious business breakups.
    YouTube: Footage of Madsen's UC3 Nautilus submarine

    He really has his own sub?

    Yes, the Nautilus was designed by Madsen and built by 25 members of a submarine society named Ubadsklubben Freya after the first boat.
    A submarine on the surface with man standing in the conning tower
    Photo: The UC3 Nautilus was Peter Madsen's third submarine design. (Wikipedia Commons: Frumperino)

    It is 17.76 metres long, displaces about 40 tonnes and although it can carry up to eight people, it can be operated by just one person from the captain's chair.

    In contrast, Australia's Collins class submarines are 77.42 metres long, displacing 3,407 tonnes and crewed by a normal complement of 58.

    At the 2008 launch in Copenhagen Harbour, the Nautilus was billed as the "longest and tallest privately-built submarine in the world".

    Local newspaper Berlingske, which attended the launch, said Madsen looked "like a boy just before the birthday gift was unpacked".

    He told Berlingske he would sleep in the submarine the first night and wanted to move into it, and said he had built it "because you can".

    An FAQ on the Nautilus website says it is legal in Denmark to "build submarines and boats for private personal use up to 23.9 metres without any permission or control" — although a navigation exam is needed to captain a vessel of the Nautilus' size.

    Nautilus was operated successfully for many years and in 2009 helped game developers from Ubisoft find inspiration for the submarine computer game Silent Hunter 5, which was released in March 2010.

    In January 2011, Nautilus was taken on shore for upgrades and an overhaul expected to last several months but was not launched again until April 2017, after a fund-raising campaign on Indiegogo and an acrimonious period of ownership.
    What happened over ownership?

    In 2014 Mr Madsen founded the UC3 Nautilus submarine association to manage ownership, however in 2015 his relationship with the board of the association broke down.

    In March 2015, a post on the submarine association's website said they had been in ownership conflicts over the last two months and: "The lack of confidence in long-term cooperation with Peter Madsen has unfortunately been confirmed."

    "Peter Madsen's announcements have changed course — sometimes up to several times daily," the post said.

    On Sunday 29 February 2015, Mr Madsen released a statement saying: "I have no plans or wishes to have any relationships with the submarine Nautilus in the future."

    However, on the Monday evening, two members of the association's board said they received a text from Mr Madsen saying: "You may think that a curse is lying on Nautilus.

    "That curse is me. There will not be peace of Nautilus for as long as I exist. You can not lift that curse legally."

    The text continued, exhorting the board members to "not throw more blood into that boat".

    The association decided to transfer ownership to Mr Madsen.
    Who is Kim Wall?

    She is a Swedish freelance journalist who studied in Paris, London and New York and has lived in New York and Beijing.

    Ms Wall has been published in the New York Times, South China Morning Post, TIME and the Guardian among others.

    She was writing about Mr Madsen and his submarine at the time of her disappearance, according to Swedish and Danish reports.
    What happened on Thursday night?

    Ms Wall joined Mr Madsen for a voyage leaving Copenhagen some time on Thursday.
    Danish inventor Peter Madsen talks to a police officer.
    Photo: When Peter Madsen was rescued, he told police he had dropped Kim Wall in Copenhagen before the Nautilus sank. (Reuters: Spancix Denmark/Bax Lindhardt)

    Towards midnight, Mr Madsen was rescued from the sinking Nautilus.

    He told Denmark's TV2 there had been "a minor problem with a ballast tank … turned into a major issue". Ballast tanks hold water to increase the mass and therefore density of a submarine to allow it to submerge.

    He said it took about 30 seconds for Nautilus to sink and he had not been able to close any hatches.

    "I guess that was pretty good because I otherwise still would have been down there," he said.

    He told police he had left Ms Wall in Copenhagen at about 22:30 local time.

    A few hours later, early on Friday morning, Ms Wall's boyfriend reported her missing.
    What have we learned since then?

    Not much.

    The submarine was raised from Koge Bay on Saturday but Danish police said on Sunday that Ms Wall's body was not inside.

    On Sunday local time Copenhagen police said, "it is true we have been given another explanation", but has not said what the explanation is.

    A police spokesman now says there are indications Mr Madsen deliberately sank the Nautilus.

    Sweden's Express newspaper reports that police have video surveillance films provided by Ms Wall's boyfriend Bo Petersen, who runs a restaurant near where she should have been released, but no announcement has been made about the content of the footage.

    Before being arrested on Saturday, Mr Madsen announced via his lawyer he had something he would very much like to tell the press, but there has been no statement released.



    The Express also reported Mr Madsen sent a text message to a colleague on Thursday night, before the Nautilus sank, cancelling a planned trip on Friday without explanation.

    Peter Madsen: Did a Danish entrepreneur sink his homemade submarine with a journalist aboard? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    A real puzzler but nothing that CSI TeakDoor cannot handle...


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    Madsen sounds like a bit of a crackpot, all things considered.

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    that's a tough one to crack,

    was the journalist pretty ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    It is 17.76 metres long, displaces about 40 tonnes and although it can carry up to eight people, it can be operated by just one person from the captain's chair.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/880...x2-700x467.jpg

    All things considered, quite an accomplishment, for 46 years of living. Way to go, Mr. Madsen
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    Quite a small submarine.

    You would not wanna let one off in there.

    Especially not if you have got a lady on board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Quite a small submarine.
    It's bigger than mine.

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    The inventor who was the last person to see missing Swedish journalist Kim Wall after she vanished while taking a submarine trip for an article has changed his story, claiming he dumped her body in the sea after she died in an accident on his vessel.

    The 30-year-old, who has written for several respected international publications, was last seen on Mr Madsen's submarine on the night of 10 August.

    Peter Madsen, 46, previously claimed they both escaped the submarine, which sank, alive, but now says she died onboard so he "buried her at sea", according to Danish police.

    Inventor claims he dumped Swedish journalist's body in the sea after she died in 'accident' on submarine

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    so he raped her, before sinking the vessel

    case solved, next one please

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    He torpedoed her and then murdered her and she was buried at sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam
    Madsen sounds like a bit of a crackpot, all things considered.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Peter Madsen, 46, previously claimed they both escaped the submarine, which sank, alive, but now says she died onboard so he "buried her at sea", according to Danish police.
    Yes. Crackpot.

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    The plot thickens....

    Danish police say the size of a headless female torso found on the shoreline in Copenhagen suggests it could be that of a Swedish journalist who died after taking a submarine ride with the vessel's Danish inventor.

    Police said divers were still searching the area and they were investigating reports of other body parts that may have been spotted in Copenhagen harbour.

    Danish inventor Peter Madsen has been charged with killing Kim Wall, a Swedish journalist, in his home-made submarine.

    "We're dealing with a torso where arms, legs and head were cut off deliberately," Copenhagen police spokesman Jens Moller said in a video statement.
    "The length of the torso doesn't speak against it being Kim Wall, but we still don't know."

    Mr Madsen told a court she had died in an accident on board the submarine and that he had buried her at sea, changing his earlier statement that he dropped her off alive in Copenhagen.

    Police are conducting DNA tests to identify the torso — found on Monday by a passing cyclist — and the results are due Wednesday morning (local time), Mr Moller said.

    The bizarre case has dominated Danish and Swedish media, and drawn interest from around the world.

    Mr Madsen has been charged with the manslaughter of Ms Wall, who has been missing since he took her out to sea in his 17-metre submarine on August 10 — he denies the charge.

    He was rescued a day later after his UC3 Nautilus sank in the narrow strait between Denmark and Sweden. Police found nobody else in the wreck.

    Mr Madsen, an entrepreneur, artist, submarine builder and aerospace engineer, went before a judge on Saturday for preliminary questioning.

    The case is closed to the public in order to protect further investigations, police said
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    Kim Wall: Headless torso amputated 'deliberately' could be submarine journalist, Danish police say - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I want one! It doesn't have to be quite so ostentatious. I'd opt for practicalities like no lift to the conning tower, less furniture on deck that needs to be stowed etc. Helipad can go. So can the pool.

    I'd even go as far as to not require deep diving; 20 metres is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam
    I'd even go as far as to not require deep diving; 20 metres is enough.
    Same requirement as the Thai subs on order.

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    To fully understand this story I suggest you watch this.


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    The Danish movie Millenium comes to mind,

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    Danish police: DNA from dismembered body matches missing journalist
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    By Euan McKirdy and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN
    Updated 1055 GMT (1855 HKT) August 23, 2017

    (CNN)DNA from a headless torso found washed up on an island near Copenhagen matches that of missing Swedish journalist Kim Wall, Danish police said Wednesday.

    At a press conference, chief investigator Jens Møller Jensen said police had linked the victim to the torso with DNA obtained from her toothbrush and hairbrush.
    He said the body had apparently been punctured to let the air out before sinking it, and it was weighted down in a presumed attempt to prevent it floating.

    Danish police: DNA from dismembered body matches missing journalist - CNN

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