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    Americans Too Fat For Cremation

    A crematorium in Ohio caught fire while burning the remains of an "overly obese" body, according to the owner.

    Don Catchen said the corpse caused flames to engulf one of his units in the city of Cincinnati.
    The fat in the body burned at a higher temperature, prompting the blaze, said the city fire chief.

    The blog Confessions of a Funeral Director describes a blaze resulting from the cremation of a morbidly obese person as a "grease fire".
    No other parts of the building were damaged, Mr Catchen said.
    The fire was contained to the garage where the crematory unit is located, he told BBC News.

    The fire began at 21:40 (01:40 GMT) on Wednesday and took about two hours to put out, Mr Catchen told local news outlet WCPO.
    "My operator was in the process of cremating remains and [the body] was overly obese and apparently it got a little hotter than the unit is supposed to get," Mr Catchen added.

    "One of the cremation containers that we had close got caught on fire and that's what burnt."
    No other bodies were damaged in the fire, he said.

    "We believe there were some combustible storage boxes that were too close to the ovens," said Cincinnati Fire Chief Michael Washington.
    Mr Catchen added the fireproof unit is made of concrete block with a steel roof, but also has a rubberised roof.

    A similar blaze at a Virginia facility in October 2014 occurred during the cremation of a 500lb (226kg) body.
    'Overly obese' body sparks Ohio funeral home fire - BBC News

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    You should steam the fat off first. It works with ducks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    The fire began at 21:40 (01:40 GMT) on Wednesday and took about two hours to put out,
    Most attempts to extinguish the blaze were rendered useless.

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    No cremation for bsnub then.

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    No other bodies were damaged in the fire, he said.
    Can't be cremating singed corpses now can we?


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    Haven't they got those MOAB incinerators. Biggest in the world.

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    Surely if the fat cnut went through the doors he was within limits?

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    I like what you did with the title

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You should steam the fat off first. It works with ducks.
    Expensive.

    I helped to cremate a cow for the Hare Krisnas a few years ago.

    All we needed was a bundle of dry brushwood to roll the cow onto, then another load on top, got it going with cooking oil, and once the brush underneath took hold and tge skin started to crack and peal, molten fat started to ooze out and pretty soon the old beast was popping and hissing and whistling like an orchestra as the flames crackled, burned up by its own fat.

    The only bits that didn't burn were the hooves, as they stuck out from the fire and had no fat on them..

    Easy to see how these so-called "spontaneous combustion" cases arise, where there's nothing left of the victim but their feet, nothing else burned in the room, only the poor sod who fell asleep while a fire started from a ciggy or candle, deep asleep, comatose or too drunk to move, as their body fat melted, arteries and veins collapsed, blood leaked out, BP dropped, so they literally only felt cold, not hot while the fire burned and oxygen starvation sent them peacefully on their way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You should steam the fat off first. It works with ducks.
    Expensive.

    I helped to cremate a cow for the Hare Krisnas a few years ago.

    All we needed was a bundle of dry brushwood to roll the cow onto, then another load on top, got it going with cooking oil, and once the brush underneath took hold and tge skin started to crack and peal, molten fat started to ooze out and pretty soon the old beast was popping and hissing and whistling like an orchestra as the flames crackled, burned up by its own fat.
    Bet that smelled great. They regreted being vegeterian then I bet.
    Whatever happened to that lot anyway?
    Any old hare krishnas around?
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    Come to think of it I haven't seen Harikrishnas dancing with drums in the street for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    the old beast was popping and hissing and whistling like an orchestra as the flames crackled, burned up by its own fat.
    Bet that smelled great. They regreted being vegeterian then I bet.
    Whatever happened to that lot anyway?
    Any old hare krishnas around?
    Oh, they're still around, handing out free food to the homeless and underprivileged and criminals and....starving uni students and all.

    They'll ask for a donation if you can afford a few cents or the odd dollar, fair enough, but they're genuinely kind. Good on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    Come to think of it I haven't seen Harikrishnas dancing with drums in the street for years.
    Gone along with the first generation of hippies.

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    Insurance Claim for a New Burner.

    Should have used a gas station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    Bet that smelled great. They regreted being vegeterian then I bet.
    Whatever happened to that lot anyway?
    Any old hare krishnas around?
    When I lived in London I used to go to Hyde Park Corner on a Sunday morning to have a good quarrel. It was there that there was to be a march to Battersea with the Hare Krishna lot pulling a chariot. I was very close to them and had to step into the road to let somebody pass me whereupon a policeman shouted at me and said, " Please get back in the line with the procession, please". I pissed myself laughing at the thought he believed I was one of them. A very beautiful girl invited me to join them and the deal was sealed when she said that I would be treated to a "vegetarian feast" if I completed the march to Battersea Park. So, off I went and the crowds cheered us all the way.

    I was asked for a donation when we arrived and paid willingly. It was fantastic fun.

    My vegetarian feast was chips and tomato ketchup.

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    An alternate fuel source...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digby Fantona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    Bet that smelled great. They regreted being vegeterian then I bet.
    Whatever happened to that lot anyway?
    Any old hare krishnas around?
    When I lived in London I used to go to Hyde Park Corner on a Sunday morning to have a good quarrel. It was there that there was to be a march to Battersea with the Hare Krishna lot pulling a chariot. I was very close to them and had to step into the road to let somebody pass me whereupon a policeman shouted at me and said, " Please get back in the line with the procession, please". I pissed myself laughing at the thought he believed I was one of them. A very beautiful girl invited me to join them and the deal was sealed when she said that I would be treated to a "vegetarian feast" if I completed the march to Battersea Park. So, off I went and the crowds cheered us all the way.

    I was asked for a donation when we arrived and paid willingly. It was fantastic fun.

    My vegetarian feast was chips and tomato ketchup.
    Curry sauce and chips were much in demand by newly arrived Fijian Hindus at Auckland's Krsna temple.

    The food generally provided to devotees at the temple was superb, no wonder many of the priests were obese.

    At the festival of Rathayatra Puri, the cart is usually enormous, in the Auckland the cart was pulled uphill near the start, but the procession kept the same steady pace all the way.




    Auckland devotees last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You should steam the fat off first. It works with ducks.
    Yeah, then Fight Club soap manufacture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    I helped to cremate a cow for the Hare Krisnas a few years ago.

    All we needed was a bundle of dry brushwood to roll the cow onto, then another load on top, got it going with cooking oil, and once the brush underneath took hold and tge skin started to crack and peal, molten fat started to ooze out and pretty soon the old beast was popping and hissing and whistling like an orchestra as the flames crackled, burned up by its own fat.
    More of your febrile imagination at work.
    It's highly unlikely a cow would have enough fat to burn away all the muscle and bone, especially on an open fire , and even in a kiln there wouldn't be enough energy from just cow fat and some brushwood. You'd need loads of wood, not just some brushwood, and a VERY VERY fat beast, and in an enclosed kiln or kiln-like space.

    I've burnt wild dogs that I've shot....it takes loads and loads of wood even for non-lean dogs. I had to burn a pig that died, and that animal was FAT, and that took loads of wood and a long time. Even then, most of the bones remained....not just the hooves.
    Ever seen a funeral pyre? The wood is stacked up about a metre and a half, and it's good firewood. Bit of brushwood top and bottom wouldn't even ignite whatever fat was on your imaginary cow at your imaginary Hare Krishna get together.

    The fat burning in the OP is inside a kiln where the heat builds up and becomes self-feeding.

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    Some world ENT lives in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    It's highly unlikely a cow would have enough fat to burn away all the muscle and bone, especially on an open fire , and even in a kiln there wouldn't be enough energy from just cow fat and some brushwood. You'd need loads of wood, not just some brushwood, and a VERY VERY fat beast, and in an enclosed kiln or kiln-like space.
    Codswallop.
    Firstly skinny undernourished cows didn't exist on the Krsna farm, they were all well fed, and fat, the one I helped cremate just keeled over dead, probably its heart gave up, it was so overweight

    Secondly, contrary to your belief, very little combustible material's needed, you don't need a pile of wood as the brushwood once alight, starts burning the hair and skin, so the sub-cutaneous fat starts to melt and ooze out in a very few minutes, as the tiny bits of brush wood and hair act as wicks, drawing more fat, creating more flame all running downward to soak into the brush wood underneath, which in turn ignites and the flames increase, burning the cow completely to ashes in about eight hours, the fat free hooves and teeth,and maybe the occasional piece of pelvis are all that remain.
    There's no need for a kiln, to get temperatures high enough for the job, otherwise there'd be no open air cremations at Varanasi.

    I've burnt wild dogs that I've shot....it takes loads and loads of wood even for non-lean dogs. I had to burn a pig that died, and that animal was FAT, and that took loads of wood and a long time. Even then, most of the bones remained....not just the hooves.
    Anyway, WhyTF were you having to cremate the wild dogs and pig you misguidedly and hastily tried to dispose of? Are you mad? It takes more time and energy to burn the corpses than to bury them. You're really fwkn weird, or telling lies again, actually you're both mad and a liar.

    Ever seen a funeral pyre? The wood is stacked up about a metre and a half, and it's good firewood.

    I know that you've never attended a cremation, because you insist that "it takes loads and loads of wood" even to burn a fat animal. Pure nonsense.

    I've attended many cremations in India, and the funeral pyres are no higher on average than about 50 cm of cross laid branches and slabs, with plenty of air space between them. That's around 100 < 150 kg of wood, max. Brushwood and straw or reeds are stuffed into the gaps, sprinkled with ghee or oil then set alight, after the body's placed on top.

    The heat is fierce, you can't stand any closer than a couple of metres from the cremation, which lasts only around 2-4 hrs, depending on how much wood the family can afford. The whole cremation's tended and cleaned up after by an attendant who rakes up and sifts through all the ash, any bits of bone thrown into the Ganga, and any gold kept by him, his perk.

    Those corpses were mostly skinny, with no fat to talk of, so needed some wood, but not the metre and a half high stack your feeble mind cooked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12Call View Post
    Some world ENT lives in.
    I don't live in a milk bottle like you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Anyway, WhyTF were you having to cremate the wild dogs and pig you misguidedly and hastily tried to dispose of? Are you mad? It takes more time and energy to burn the corpses than to bury them. You're really fwkn weird, or telling lies again, actually you're both mad and a liar.
    No, you're both mad and a liar.
    So, I'm supposed to dig a hole or else I'm mad, but you and your Hare mates burn.

    You're full of shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    contrary to your belief, very little combustible material's needed, you don't need a pile of wood as the brushwood once alight, starts burning the hair and skin, so the sub-cutaneous fat starts to melt and ooze out in a very few minutes, as the tiny bits of brush wood and hair act as wicks, drawing more fat, creating more flame all running downward to soak into the brush wood underneath, which in turn ignites and the flames increase, burning the cow completely to ashes in about eight hours, the fat free hooves and teeth,and maybe the occasional piece of pelvis are all that remain.
    So, you're saying the fire starts at the top, then the brushwood at the bottom ignites after the fat drips down.

    And melted fat seeps out of skin that is merely singed by brushwood flame. And hair, that is immediately burnt off, is still there to act as a wick. wicks that actually draw the melted fat out.
    And the fat keeps burning for 8 hours (because obviously the brushwood would be gone in ten or twenty minutes).

    Full of it.

    Go on, dig yourself in deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    the one I helped cremate just keeled over dead, probably its heart gave up, it was so overweight
    Yeah right.

    You did say cow. Indeed Hares keep cows for milk. You have not butchered many cows have you? Certainly not dairy cows. As a MAF meat inspector I've seen thousands of butchered cows, and as a farmer have slaughtered quite a few myself.
    Morbidly obese dairy cow....there's one for the record books.

    You're full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    So, I'm supposed to dig a hole or else I'm mad, but you and your Hare mates burn.
    Cremation's the Hare Krsna method of disposal of loved ones, including their holy cows.
    Your lot bury your dead.
    You're full of shit.
    Says shit fer brains who's never been near a cremation.
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    contrary to your belief, very little combustible material's needed, you don't need a pile of wood as the brushwood once alight, starts burning the hair and skin, so the sub-cutaneous fat starts to melt and ooze out in a very few minutes, as the tiny bits of brush wood and hair act as wicks, drawing more fat, creating more flame all running downward to soak into the brush wood underneath, which in turn ignites and the flames increase, burning the cow completely to ashes in about eight hours, the fat free hooves and teeth,and maybe the occasional piece of pelvis are all that remain.
    So, you're saying the fire starts at the top, then the brushwood at the bottom ignites after the fat drips down.
    Read it again, dozey. No one except an idiot like yourself would dream of starting a fire on top of a heap of combustibles.
    And melted fat seeps out of skin that is merely singed by brushwood flame. And hair, that is immediately burnt off, is still there to act as a wick. wicks that actually draw the melted fat out
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    Yup, you've never even burnt a dog let alone seen a funeral pyre. The skin ain't "merely singed", it's scorched, the hair is not immediately burned off, the whole beast is covered in hair, and and both hair, particularly below the main conflagration, and twigs act as wicks to keep the fire burning.
    And the fat keeps burning for 8 hours (because obviously the brushwood would be gone in ten or twenty minutes)
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    Man, are you ever thick! The brushwood doesn't burn off in 20 minutes, the stuff under the beast is compressed by the weight of the animal and soaks up fat as it's melted and released, brushwood's fed to the lower molten fat rich levels and sides of the burning cadavre from time to time as required.
    Never having burnt a corpse of any sort, you pretend to know how brushwood and fat behave in a controlled cremation as practiced by others not of your religious persuasion.

    Now get lost, troll.

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