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    Exclamation Spice up your life

    It's not normal weed. Some fucked-up spice, class A, can't-think-let-a-lone-move shit. Doesn't sound good to me, but it depends what flicks your switch, and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses ...









    Herbal cannabis can take years to cause psychosis, the synthetic version can trigger an episode within hours
    Experts also warned super-strength skunk now makes up 90 per cent of herbal cannabis sold. Doctors say the ‘hash’ smoked by older generations can now scarcely be found in the UK.
    An article in medical journal The Lancet Psychiatry says there is an urgent need to explore how the drug can be made safer.
    Co-author Professor Sir Robin Murray, of the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience at King’s College London, said: ‘You can go psychotic within a night with synthetic cannabinoids.

    The drug can also cause a psychotic episode, dubbed ‘spiceophrenia’, which wears off only after a few days. Spice’s rise comes as soaring numbers also use skunk – cannabis without seeds which is prevented from pollinating so more energy goes into its trichomes, the tiny hairs which create THC. As it has more THC, skunk is around four times more powerful than the herbal cannabis smoked by hippies in the 1970s.
    Dr Amir Englund of King’s College London, lead author of the Lancet article, said skunk could now make up 90 per cent of the UK cannabis market.
    He added: ‘There may be a market-driven reason, such as heavy users preferring the stronger varieties.
    ‘But we have heard from clinicians who are trying to encourage people back to the herbal, more traditional forms of cannabis, that their patients have had difficulty finding these.
    ‘Types like hash are very difficult to come across, they are not very prevalent any more.’ The number of cannabis users seeking treatment has soared by more than 50 per cent in eight years. In 2013/14, the most recent year for which figures are available, 11,821 sought help, mainly for addiction. This compared to 7,579 in 2005/06.
    This may be due to the rise of skunk, which as well as containing more THC, has lower cannabidiol (CBD) levels. The ratio is important as cannabidiol has been found to counteract THC, making the drug less addictive.
    The experts suggested guidelines could be introduced on safer cannabis use, similar to the 14-unit weekly alcohol limit.

    Synthetic drug Spice can make you psychotic in a night | Daily Mail Online

    A man who deliberately got arrested for shoplifting so he could make money selling drugs in prison has been jailed for a year.
    Kevin Hancock is thought to be one of the first in the country sentenced under new laws to tackle the supply of drugs formally known as "legal highs".
    At Sheffield Crown Court, he admitted possession of a psychoactive substance with intent to supply.
    The 40-year-old, from Rotherham, also admitted theft and six other charges.
    Police said Hancock was seen stealing a bottle of whisky on 15 June in a Tesco store in Rotherham. Officers also found heroin inside a Kinder egg capsule he was carrying.
    Further searches found he was carrying the drug spice.
    'Untested substances'
    Acting Det Ch Insp Graham Bulmer, of South Yorkshire Police, said: "One of the main aspects of the law change was to make it illegal to possess or supply psychoactive substances in prison and Hancock told officers that he'd deliberately got arrested for shoplifting so that he could make more money selling spice in prison.
    "This new legislation can only help us in our fight to protect and educate vulnerable people about illegal and untested substances and punish those, like Hancock, who use psychoactive substances for their own gain."
    In May, the Psychoactive Substances Act was passed by the government, making production and supply of 'legal highs' illegal.
    Legislation was revised in January to make possession of psychoactive substances such as spice and black mamba also illegal.

    Man set up own arrest to sell spice in prison - BBC News

    Shocking footage shows homeless people being turned into the 'walking dead' after taking the drug Spice.
    The video, shot in Manchester city centre, captures disturbing scenes of people frozen like statues as the substance takes hold of their whole body.
    The city has experienced a surge in ambulance call outs after users have fallen victim to the drug's lethal side effects, with some left keeling over and smashing up their faces.
    Meanwhile in Wrexham, north Wales, pictures have emerged of bloody needles and other drug paraphernalia discarded on a bus station floor, alongside images of people 'slumped' against walls and even a flower pot.
    Bus driver Gavin Rodda, 35, took the photos to raise awareness of what he calls a 'growing problem' in the Welsh town, particularly with heroin.












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    It comes to the crunch when you want to take something that fucks you up like this
    Where's the enjoyment in that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobs View Post
    It comes to the crunch when you want to take something that fucks you up like this
    Where's the enjoyment in that ?

    The pleasure comes from escape - a cuntish population.
    The madding crowd ain't what it used to be.

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    I think I'll stick to Kiwi Sativa.. although I'm detoxing from it now - preparing mind and body, for a new life in Nippon.
    *I won't even think about touching drugs in Japan (dooh!)...

    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    The pleasure comes from escape - a cuntish population.
    More truth to that - than you might think. ^

    One thing I will say, the more you toke, the higher your tolerance becomes - so you need more and more to achieve that high feeling of euphoria.

    Always good to take tolerance breaks from it... those that say it's not addictive can kiss Dick's lily white ass... joob joob xxx


    Edit: I have tried synthetic weed.. once was enough... most terrifying feeling I have ever experienced, stick to the natural stuff my bros (trust me on that one).
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    With any new batch of weed, it's wise to only take one small toke at first and then wait 20 minutes to assess it's power.
    Stupid to smoke a whole joint with something new.

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    fukkin dope heads

    The only thing that shits good for is to bring you down off the coke

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    Thought at least some of those pics looked laughably posed.

    Then saw 'daily mail' at the bottom.

    What do you have to be smoking to believe anything in that shitty rag?


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    The BBC has a similar story with similar pictures, but focussing on Wrexham bus station.

    'Stark' photos of drug use at Wrexham bus station - BBC News




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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    The BBC has a similar story with similar pictures, but focussing on Wrexham bus station.
    ...but does not link the pics to 'spice'...so not really a 'similar story', since that is the core of the mail's story...

    Gavin Rodda posted more than 20 images of needles and drug paraphernalia as well as people apparently under the influence of drugs.
    ...but pics of just 'old style' drug users fucked up isn't quite impactful enough for the daylie mail.

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    Interestingly, both articles use an identical photograph.


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    And does that look like a position anyone would be in after smoking something even remotely related to grass?

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    I've no idea. I don't do drugs. To me, it looks like something from a movie preview.

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    Seems that a lot of drugs have been "boosted" in recent years (disregarding Daily Mail *shock*horror*outrage) leaders.
    Normal MJ has been mutated / hybrid to "skunk" strength, increasing the 'high' to paranoiac levels. Cocaine cooked up with baking soda to create instantly-addictive 'crack'. Amphetamine Sulphate processed to Meth / Crystal meth, eh?

    Better living through fucking Chemistry, innit.

    Wait 'til "Krokodil" makes it over to the UK.

    http://time.com/3398086/the-worlds-d...dil-cookhouse/

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    ^^ all true, and this 'spice' may well be dodgy stuff.

    Still the story and pictures together add up to a contrived lie.

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    Friend and a friend got hooked on spice and feels now that it caused mental health issues. Hard to say, I'm not a psychologist or a chemist. Perhaps it is more dangerous if you are predisposed to mental health issues? Seems mind boggling that there are so many dangerous legal drugs yet weed remains illegal in the UK. I'd certainly prefer to have a joint over a beer any day.

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    More of a problem if they were running around stabbing people or drunk driving...No threat as they "sleep it off," drunk or stoned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Thought at least some of those pics looked laughably posed.
    Definitely.

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    Well, this photo is not posed.




    I remember reading about these guys and they are dead, man. I am not kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy
    I'd certainly prefer to have a joint over a beer any day.
    Don't you have any friends?

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    Seems the homeless are now getting mindless,what a waste of a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    And does that look like a position anyone would be in after smoking something even remotely related to grass?
    The problem is that nobody really knows what's in the chemicals sprayed on the base herbs. Cooked up in some suspect lab in China or Eastern Europe, that's about all most will ever know about it.

    Just legalize weed already!

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