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    NASA 'new Concorde' 1,354 mph

    It's interesting to see the speed (and time barrers) move up. I think it would be too expensive to be feasible for passengers but we're heading in that direction of faster travel in the future (perhaps).

    NASA test ‘the new Concorde’: 1,354mph jet to fly passengers from UK to US in THREE HOURS



    A SUPERSONIC jet capable of flying passengers across the Atlantic ocean in just three hours could change air travel forever.

    By Joshua Nevett / Published 25th February 2017

    NASA has wind tunnel tested the futuristic aircraft dubbed “the new Concorde”.

    The revolutionary Quiet Supersonic Technology (QueSST) project is aiming to create a jet that can break the 767mph sound barrier.

    Space boffins from the US space agency have joined forces with Lockheed Martin to work on the ambitious project.

    Engineer Charles Bolden hopes the jets will one day ferry passengers across the Atlantic in half the time of a conventional aircraft.

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    REVOLUTIONARY: Concordes can travel at a top speed of 1,354 mph

    Currently it takes a commercial airliner around eight hours to fly from the US to the UK.

    From London to New York, a Concorde's average flight time is around 3 hours 30 minutes.

    Bolden said: “NASA is working hard to make flight greener, safer and quieter – all while developing aircraft that travel faster, and building an aviation system that operates more efficiently.

    “To that end, it’s worth noting that it's been almost 70 years since Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier in the Bell X-1 as part of our predecessor agency's high speed research.

    "Now we’re continuing that supersonic X-plane legacy with this preliminary design award for a quieter supersonic jet with an aim toward passenger flight."

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    RAPID: NASA hopes the jet will change air travel forever

    NASA test 'the new Concorde': Jet to fly across the Atlantic in 3 hours | Daily Star

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    Only way I'll be doing long haul flights.

    Fuk the old way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    Space boffins from the US space agency have joined forces with Lockheed Martin to work on the ambitious project.
    Government agency supporting a commercial aviation venture. Airbus get pilloried if they do that but Lockheed Martin? Apparently not?

    Anyway Skype and VoI etc means the actual face to face stuff is not really needed anymore?

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    Really nothing new...

    "Aérospatiale/BAC Concorde (/ˈkɒnkɔːrd/) is a British-French turbojet-powered supersonic passenger jet airliner that was operated until 2003. It had a maximum speed over twice the speed of sound at Mach 2.04 (1,354 mph or 2,180 km/h at cruise altitude), with seating for 92 to 128 passengers. First flown in 1969, Concorde entered service in 1976 and continued flying for the next 27 years. It is one of only two supersonic transports to have been operated commercially; the other is the Soviet-built Tupolev Tu-144, which was operated for a much shorter period."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    but we're heading in that direction of faster travel in the future (perhaps).
    They were talking about commercial airliners that had scramjets.
    Think mach 6. An hour LHR to LAX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    but we're heading in that direction of faster travel in the future (perhaps).
    They were talking about commercial airliners that had scramjets.
    Think mach 6. An hour LHR to LAX.
    How far along are they?

    I mean from drawing board to actual test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza View Post
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    but we're heading in that direction of faster travel in the future (perhaps).
    They were talking about commercial airliners that had scramjets.
    Think mach 6. An hour LHR to LAX.
    How far along are they?

    I mean from drawing board to actual test?
    15 years to commercial scramjets according to Lockheed Martin. They're talking about mach 3.5 to mach 7, London to Sydney in 2 hours. Charles Bombardier has a concept for scramjets which may enter service in about 20 years - mach 24. London to New York in 11 minutes!

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/27/av...concept-plane/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    “NASA is working hard to make flight greener, safer and quieter
    The Concorde was incredibly safe for the pioneering technology it was. It took a metal piece falling off a crappy DC-10 to bring down the only one that crashed. Amazing achievement by the British and French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    A SUPERSONIC jet capable of flying passengers across the Atlantic ocean in just three hours could change air travel forever.
    Concorde broke the 3-hour barrier a mere 20 years ago.....

    What do you use to get the plane supersonic in order to utilize a scramjet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    A SUPERSONIC jet capable of flying passengers across the Atlantic ocean in just three hours could change air travel forever.
    Concorde broke the 3-hour barrier a mere 20 years ago.....

    What do you use to get the plane supersonic in order to utilize a scramjet?
    https://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley...3A_2006_5.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    London to New York in 11 minutes!
    Fantastic. 5,600 km in 11 mins.
    Suggest the smart folks work on speeding up the couple hrs it takes from airport entry to boarding.

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    Dr Bob has one of these already
    Moss side to Hertfordshire in less than an hour

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    A SUPERSONIC jet capable of flying passengers across the Atlantic ocean in just three hours could change air travel forever.
    Concorde broke the 3-hour barrier a mere 20 years ago.....

    What do you use to get the plane supersonic in order to utilize a scramjet?
    https://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley...3A_2006_5.html
    I had a search through the link but didn't find an answer ...

    The X43A test vehicle was 'launched' from a booster rocket, which was launched from a B-52 so the tests were refining known theory.

    The problem is that a ramjet/scramjet needs significant forward velocity to operate. That means using turbojets to get up in the air and climb to the velocity required to start the ramjet. The scramjet is dead weight during this phase and the turbojet is dead weight during the hypersonic phase. A compromise is required to fulfil all stages of flight. I can't see a solid fuel rocket engine being used to accelerate to required speed due to noise and safety and god knows how many other issues...

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    I hope they come up with something. Flying from DC to BKK is really getting boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    The Concorde was incredibly safe for the pioneering technology it was. It took a metal piece falling off a crappy DC-10 to bring down the only one that crashed. Amazing achievement by the British and French.
    It was suffering from other nonfatal mechanical fails and the public was losing faith to the extent that I believe the Concorde consortium was nearly in the red, if not already there. The crash was the last nail in the coffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naptownmike View Post
    I hope they come up with something. Flying from DC to BKK is really getting boring.
    Xanax is cheaper than flying business class and cheaper than a supersonic flight would be. I could not survive the flight to Los Angeles without something to knock me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naptownmike View Post
    I hope they come up with something. Flying from DC to BKK is really getting boring.
    Hi naptown,

    I used to live in DC. I loved going to Annapolis for the weekend.

    How are things over there.

    Been to Middleton's Tavern?

    My grandad, dad, and I used to go there.

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    ^^ Even business is brutal, just less brutal.

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    Hi there Annapolis is basically the same. In town the only constant change are the businesses. There always seems to be someone new to move in. Middleton's is still going strong it's mainly a tourist spot though the foods marginal.

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