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    Poland Welcomes US Troops Amid Russia Fears

    Poland on Saturday formally welcomed a contingent of U.S. troops that arrived in the country earlier in the week, part of a NATO deployment aimed at deterring Russian aggression in the region.

    Poland’s prime minister, Beata Szydlo, and Defense Minister Antoni Macierewicz welcomed the troops at a ceremony in the western Polish town of Zagan.

    "The presence of American soldiers in Poland is another step in our strategy to ensure safety and security for Poland and the region," Szydlo said after telling the soldiers she hopes they “feel at home.”

    The first contingent of U.S. soldiers arrived in Poland from Germany Thursday, leading Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov to call the deployment a threat to Russia’s “interests and our security.”

    “This is even more pronounced when a third party reinforces its military presence on our doorstep in Europe,” the Kremlin spokesman told reporters.


    Largest build-up since end of Cold War

    Eventually, the U.S. plans to station more than 3,000 soldiers in Poland, marking the largest troop build-up in the country since the Cold War ended.

    The mission, dubbed The Atlantic Resolve, will see the soldiers, along with 87 Abrams tanks and more than 500 vehicles, rotate between Poland and several other nearby NATO countries, including Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary.

    "This is America's most capable fighting force: a combat-ready, highly trained U.S. armored brigade, with our most advanced equipment and weaponry," U.S. Ambassador to Poland Paul James said during Saturday’s ceremony.

    The deployment was ordered by the Obama administration in 2014 as a response to Russian aggression in Ukraine.

    U.S. soldiers, part of the Armored Brigade Combat Team, crossed the Polish border Thursday at the city of Olszyna and headed for their base in Zagan.

    Over the coming years, Macierewicz said, there will be a total of 7,000 NATO and US troops stationed in Poland.

    Poland Welcomes US Troops Amid Russia Fears

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    It'll be very interesting to see how Trump handles this. How he deals with Putins disapproval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    How he deals with Putins disapproval.
    Putins been sending the finger to anything Obama does, so in all honesty hopefully something can actually be done, for the positive, with Trump.

    Hooker pissing, hacking, blackmail aside

    Trump has a better chance of dealing with putin than Obama or HRC ever would have.

    Cant see how any EU bros would be drinking the haterade on Trump right now, in all honesty.

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    I really don't see the point of an outgoing President escalating tensions with Russia, when the incoming Potus has already signalled his intentions to de-escalate them. Neither do I see any benefit whatsoever to the host nations of Europe.

    What I do see is an effort on behalf of the combined security complex of the USA to at least partially neuter the Trump Presidency.
    probes Aliens

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    I think it's payback because the whole Congress is already on board to repeal Obamacare as a farewell gift to Obama

    that must be quite a disappointment for him, after so much sacrifice

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    I note that GW Bush team was constructive during the transition, but Obama team has been nothing but petty and uncooperative in that process

    as usual, Obama is doing press conf talk and then something completely behind the press conf

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    What I do see is an effort on behalf of the combined security complex of the USA to at least partially neuter the Trump Presidency.
    Just goes to show that Democrats are in now way worse or better than Republicans in this regard.

    Nor in the aspect of 'blocking' Republican legislation.

    Everyone be all "But but but Republicans blocked...." yeah.. That shit would actually matter if the Democrats took some kind of high road and weren't perpetrators of the same shit.

    Anyway....

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    I imagine this was put in motion a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    I imagine this was put in motion a long time ago
    It was. Shortly after Russia annexed Crimea, Poland asked for troops.

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    let's invade fucking Poland for being a bunch of coward nazis anyhow

    I shall tweet Trump ASAP about this, he needs to do something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    I think it's payback because the whole Congress is already on board to repeal Obamacare as a farewell gift to Obama

    that must be quite a disappointment for him, after so much sacrifice
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    I note that GW Bush team was constructive during the transition, but Obama team has been nothing but petty and uncooperative in that process

    as usual, Obama is doing press conf talk and then something completely behind the press conf
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    let's invade fucking Poland for being a bunch of coward nazis anyhow

    I shall tweet Trump ASAP about this, he needs to do something
    None of these posts relate to the op.
    Ban yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    It'll be very interesting to see how Trump handles this. How he deals with Putins disapproval.
    It'll be very interesting to see how Putin handles this. How he deals with Trump disapproval.

    There could be something in the making. The Serbs want Kosovo back the Russians might lend a helping hand


    Deep-lying tensions between Kosovo and Serbia have erupted in a furious row after a Serbian train, emblazoned with patriotic graffiti, was blocked from crossing the border.

    Kosovo stops Serbian train crossing border in move declared 'act of war' | The Independent

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    Hundreds of U.S. Marines land in Norway, irking Russia

    Some 300 U.S. Marines landed in Norway on Monday for a six-month deployment, the first time since World War Two that foreign troops have been allowed to be stationed there, in a deployment which has irked Norway's Arctic neighbor Russia.

    Officials played down any link between the operation and NATO concerns over Russia, but the deployment coincides with the U.S. sending several thousand troops to Poland to beef up its Eastern European allies worried about Moscow's assertiveness.

    Marines from Camp Lejeune in North Carolina landed a little after 10 am CET (0900 GMT) at a snow-covered Vaernes airport near Trondheim, Norway's third-largest city, where temperatures were reaching -2 degrees Celsius (28 degrees Fahrenheit).

    U.S. troops are to stay in Norway for a year, with the current batch of Marines being replaced after their six-month tour is complete.

    A spokesman for the Norwegian Home Guards, who will host the Marines at the Vaernes military base, about 1,500 km (900 miles) from the Russian border, said the U.S. troops will learn about winter warfare.

    "For the first four weeks they will have basic winter training, learn how to cope with skis and to survive in the Arctic environment," said Rune Haarstad, a Home Guard spokesman. "It has nothing to do with Russia or the current situation."

    In March the Marines will take part in the Joint Viking exercises, which will also include British troops, he added.

    The Russian Embassy in Oslo did not immediately reply to a request for comment by Reuters on Monday. It questioned the need for such a move when it was announced in October.

    "Taking into account multiple statements of Norwegian officials about the absence of threat from Russia to Norway we would like to understand for what purposes is Norway so ... willing to increase its military potential, in particular through stationing of American forces in Vaernes?" it told Reuters at the time.

    A spokeswoman for Norwegian Ministry of Defence also said the arrival of U.S. Marines had nothing to do with concerns about Russia.

    However, in a 2014 interview with Reuters, Norway's Defence Minister Ine Eriksen Soereide said Russia's annexation of Crimea showed that it had the ability and will to use military means to achieve political goals.

    Hundreds of U.S. Marines land in Norway, irking Russia | Reuters

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    In the early 70's, I spent 4 years in a Mountain and Arctic Warfare unit, spending 3 months each winter in Arctic Norway. We had to do 3 winters there to be Arctic Warfare trained. The deployment always ended up with a major exercise featuring UK, Norwegian, German, Dutch and Italian forces. So, NATO deployments to Norway are not a new phenomena, and will come as no surprise to the Russians.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    It'll be very interesting to see how Trump handles this. How he deals with Putins disapproval.
    It'll be very interesting to see how Putin handles this. How he deals with Trump disapproval.
    What 'Trump disapproval'?
    Putin is the one expressing disapproval, and if Trump were to express disapproval (insert 'not a fuck was given that day' meme here), I'm sure.
    Putin knows Trump's not going to do anything to displease him. After all, he's said many nice things about Trump.
    Last edited by Cujo; 17-01-2017 at 07:50 PM.
    "In my professional assessment as an intelligence officer, Trump has a reflexive, defensive, monumentally narcissistic personality, for whom the facts and national interest are irrelevant, and the only thing that counts is whatever gives personal advantage and directs attention to himself."

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