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    NYPD Uniform Change Allows Sikh Officers to Wear Turbans

    The New York Police Department introduced a new dress code this week that allows followers of the Sikh religion to wear turbans and beards while in uniform.

    The policy, introduced Wednesday, specifies that Sikhs' head coverings must be navy blue, their hair must be "neatly" placed inside their turbans, and their facial hair may not be longer than half an inch.

    "If I've got my numbers right, we have about 160 people from the Sikh community, and hopefully with this change of policy, we'll be able to get more people to apply," Police Commissioner James O'Neill said during a news conference at Madison Square Garden.

    Previously, Sikh officers were authorized to wear only patkas under police caps — smaller versions of the adult turbans, often used by young Sikhs.

    With the new guidelines, the NYPD joins police departments such as those in Riverside, California, and Washington, D.C., and the U.S. Army, which also allow officers to wear turbans and facial hair for medical or religious reasons.

    O'Neill said this was a "major change" and would allow the department to become as "diverse as possible."

    "We're making this change to make sure that we allow everybody in New York City that wants to apply and have the opportunity to work in the greatest police department in the nation, to make sure to give them that opportunity," he said.


    'Proud moment'

    Officer Gurvinder Singh, president of the Sikh Officers Association, told VOA the policy change grew out of a continuing conversation with the previous commissioner that had been finalized with O'Neill.

    "This is a great and proud moment for the Sikh community … a very great moment," he said.

    Singh said Sikhs are not allowed to cut their hair, out of respect for God's creation.

    "You must leave this world the same way you came to the world," he said.

    Sikhism is the world's fifth-largest religion with more than 25 million followers. Followers believe that fighting against injustice is a sacred duty.

    O'Neill said officers who receive medical accommodation can also wear facial hair.

    "We continue to have our medical exceptions, and if you have facial hair, you're allowed to grow to 1 millimeter," he said. The limit is a half-inch for those who cite religious reasons and receive approval of department officials, he said.

    The department agreed to review its beard guidelines after a Muslim officer filed a federal class-action lawsuit in June. That case is pending.

    NYPD Uniform Change Allows Sikh Officers to Wear Turbans

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    Interesting...They're only a few decades behind Canada...

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    In 1988, a young RCMP recruit, Baltej Singh Dhillon, petitioned the RCMP to change its dress policy to allow observant Sikhs like himself to wear turbans, rather than the force’s traditional – and iconic -regulation stetson. The Force refused to change its rules, and Dhillon – who had aced the gruelling RCMP entrance process – was denied a post.

    Eventually, in 1990, the Brian Mulroney government intervened citing the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, ending the RCMP turban prohibition and enabling Dhillon to join up for what would be a long and successful hitch with the Mounties.

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    Sikhs are good guys, it's the Muslims you don't want in a Police force

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    Always wondered what they do when they have to don riot gear. Obviously can't wear helmets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    Always wondered what they do when they have to don riot gear. Obviously can't wear helmets.
    Prolly get shot in the head by idiots like Thai3 defending his 'freedums'.

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    Be pretty hard to "riot" in a "stetson," as well...Heh...

    Oh yeah, Davis...There was a lot of "talk" about that issue...The uniform thing is sacred stuff...

    Some fooking funny cartoons, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    Singh said Sikhs are not allowed to cut their hair, out of respect for God's creation. "You must leave this world the same way you came to the world," he said.
    Fingernail clipping slips under God's radar?

    No shaven havens for the laydeez?

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    NYPD Uniform Change Allows Sikh Officers to Wear Turbans
    Can they carry a sword on the job?


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    I trigress but an interesting aside I learnt studying the Tulip Mania which bankrupted Holland.

    TULIP is TULPEN in Dutch meaning a Turban shaped flower, which it is

    While many cheap American dictionaries assert it is from Latin cognate tulipa

    It is from the two lips of Tulip Saddiq MP for West Hampstead whom I encountered at a party

    Origin of tulip
    French tulipe (earlier tulipan) ; from Turkish tülbend, turban: from the flower's resemblance to a turban
    Read more at Tulip dictionary definition | tulip defined

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    Her maternal grandfather is Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, founding father and the first Prime Minister of Bangladesh.[10] Her mother's older sister is Prime Minister of Bangladesh Sheikh Hasina.[11][12] She has an elder brother, Radwan "Bobby" Mujib[13] [10] (who lives in Bangladesh),[14] and a younger sister, Rupi.[15]

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    Interesting...They're only a few decades behind Canada...
    And about a decade behind NZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai3
    it's the Muslims you don't want in a Police force
    Huh? Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam
    And about a decade behind NZ
    Nearly 50 years behind the UK.



    Special Constable Harbans Singh Jabbal at East Ham Police Station, London in 1970

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thai3
    it's the Muslims you don't want in a Police force
    Huh? Why not?
    cos they believe in Islam, and that is evil

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    I've played rugby against sikh's. It didn't bother them that they couldn't wear a turban when playing. They'd take off the turban as in this picture and wear a scrum cap on top of the hanky.
    All a fuss over nothing.

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    I believe that the law was changed in the UK to allow everyday Sikhs (not only police officers) to carry a knife hanging from their belt.

    The rest of the non-sikhs public may not.

    But they can take solace in the fact that they are not a Sikh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I've played rugby against sikh's. It didn't bother them that they couldn't wear a turban when playing. They'd take off the turban as in this picture and wear a scrum cap on top of the hanky.
    All a fuss over nothing.
    Ahh, the good ole days are back



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