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    Israeli PM summons US ambassador amid UN vote row

    Israeli PM summons US ambassador amid UN vote row

    [imgl]arbara Plett-Usher explains what the UN Security Council's vote meansIsrael's prime minister has summoned the US ambassador amid a growing row after the US eased the passage of a resolution against Israel at the UN.
    Benjamin Netanyahu, who is also foreign minister, took the unusual step of calling Dan Shapiro to his office.
    It comes after Israel summoned ambassadors from countries which voted for Friday's resolution.
    The reprimands came after Israel vowed to take retaliatory steps for what it called a "shameful" act by the UN.
    The measure, which harshly criticised Israeli settlement activity in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, passed when the US abstained instead of using its veto.
    Israel has accused the US, its closest ally but a frequent critic of settlements, of engineering the vote - a charge Washington has denied.
    "From the information that we have, we have no doubt that the Obama administration initiated it, stood behind it, co-ordinated on the wording and demanded that it be passed," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said.
    "Friends don't take friends to the Security Council," he said.
    Mr Netanyahu said the resolution would eventually be repealedThe resolution - the first since 1979 to condemn Israel over its settlement policy - said the settlements had "no legal validity" and constituted "a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the achievement of the two-state solution".
    Mr Netanyahu and President Obama have had a difficult relationship during Mr Obama's two terms and Israel had feared that Washington would take such a measure in the final weeks of Mr Obama's presidency.
    President-elect Donald Trump tweeted that the vote was a "big loss" for Israel which "will make it much harder to negotiate peace", vowing "we will get it done anyway".
    Mr Trump, whose intervention last Friday helped get a similar draft resolution withdrawn, promised that "things will be different" at the UN after he takes office on 20 January.
    'All-out war'

    Mr Netanyahu ordered his foreign ministry to summon the ambassadors of 10 countries which voted in favour of the resolution and which have embassies in Israel.
    The reprimand on Christmas Day, when most embassies are closed, is unusual and a sign of the seriousness with which Israel is taking the matter.
    In remarks on Saturday night, Mr Netanyahu said Israel would work to get the resolution rescinded, adding that allies in the US Congress and the incoming administration had promised to "fight an all-out war" against the measure.
    Israel accused the US of orchestrating the voteHe said he had already halted Israeli funding to five UN institutions "that are especially hostile to Israel", and warned of further steps to come.
    In the wake of the vote, Israel recalled its ambassadors from New Zealand and Senegal, which both put forward the resolution, and cancelled planned visits to Israel by the foreign ministers of Senegal and Ukraine, which had voted for the text.
    The issue of Jewish settlements is one of the most contentious between Israel and the Palestinians.
    More than 500,000 Jews live in about 140 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem - land the Palestinians want for a future state.
    The settlements are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    "Friends don't take friends to the Security Council," he said.
    Friends with Israelis ?

    with friends like this, who needs dangerous Islamic terrorists as enemies

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    They are really spitting the dummy out over this.

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    Fucking Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    They are really spitting the dummy out over this.
    Good. About bloody time Israel realised that the only reason it gets away with its crimes is because the US protects it. If they're in the right surely Yahweh will sort it out

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    [quote=DrB0b;3426979 About bloody time Israel realised that the only reason it gets away with it... is because the US protects it.[/quote]

    Do you think Israel didn't already know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    They are really spitting the dummy out over this.
    Good. About bloody time Israel realised that the only reason it gets away with its crimes is because the US protects it. If they're in the right surely Yahweh will sort it out
    He did, every time those violent Jew hating Muslim armies picked a war with them.
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    Summoning Ambassadors?

    Fuck off.

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    ^ yep and the Ambassadors had plenty of time on their hands as it was a Sunday and Christmas so the embassies where shut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    They are really spitting the dummy out over this.
    Good. About bloody time Israel realised that the only reason it gets away with its crimes is because the US protects it. If they're in the right surely Yahweh will sort it out
    .....tell it like it is, Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    land the Palestinians want for a future state
    Land the Palestinian's want? It is their land.

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    ^ no they where just caretakers until God promised the land to the Israelites. Gods word is mightier than mans.

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    The more America backs it the more the Israelis will continue committing their crimes against the Palestinian people.
    The funding plug should be pulled on this nasty little pseudo state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai3 View Post
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    They are really spitting the dummy out over this.
    Good. About bloody time Israel realised that the only reason it gets away with its crimes is because the US protects it. If they're in the right surely Yahweh will sort it out
    He did, every time those violent Jew hating Muslim armies picked a war with them.
    I reckon that one of these days their Mum will notice what they're up to and finally tell Yahweh and Allah to quit their shenanigans and get on with the chores.
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    Since when does Israel care about UN resolutions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    They are really spitting the dummy out over this.
    Good. About bloody time Israel realised that the only reason it gets away with its crimes is because the US protects it. If they're in the right surely Yahweh will sort it out
    Then Yahweh spoke to DrB0b:

    "Pleeeaze not another shithole in Middle Eaaaaaaazt !"

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    Israeli ambassador recalled from New Zealand after UN resolution

    12:22 PM Saturday Dec 24, 2016


    Foreign Minister Murray McCully told the Herald Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told him before the vote ambassador Itzhak Gerberg (pictured) would be recalled if the resolution passed.

    Foreign Minister Murray McCully told the Herald Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told him before the vote ambassador Itzhak Gerberg (pictured) would be recalled if the resolution passed.
    The Israeli Government has recalled its ambassador from New Zealand after the UN Security Council passed a resolution condemning Israel's continued settlements.

    New Zealand co-sponsored the resolution, which said the settlements violate international law and undermine a two-state solution in Israel's conflict with Palestine.

    The resolution was passed 14-0 at the last council meeting of the year, and New Zealand's last meeting in its two-year term as an elected member of the Security Council.

    Loud applause was heard in the packed chamber when the US ambassador, Samantha Power, abstained.

    All remaining members of the security council, including Egypt, which had drafted the resolution and had been briefly persuaded by Israel to postpone the vote, voted in support.

    Foreign Minister Murray McCully told the Herald he spoke to Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu before the vote and Netanyahu told him the ambassador would be recalled if the vote passed. Photo / AP

    Malaysia, Senegal and Venzuela also sponsored the resolution but only New Zealand and Senegal face reprisals because they have diplomatic relations with Israel.

    Egypt was pressured by US President-elect Donald Trump and Israel to delay the resolution. It eventually dropped it but the co-sponsors ploughed ahead with it.

    Donald Trump, who takes over as US President on January 20, tweeted yesterday that the outgoing Obama Administration should veto the resolution - but it abstained, allowing it to pass.

    Continued below.


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    Foreign Minister Murray McCully told the Herald Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told him before the vote ambassador Itzhak Gerberg would be recalled if the resolution passed.

    McCully said he had been informed the ambassador had been recalled "for consultations".

    "It underscores the fact that Israel is strongly opposed to the council position on the issue. That is not a great surprise to us.

    "But we hope that the friendship that has existed between the two countries will be able to endure regardless of different view on this issue."

    Asked if it was a victory, McCully said: "It is a victory for those who are keen to see the Security Council take some action on the Middle East peace process after eight years of complete inaction."

    It was certainly a step by the council to protect space for the two-state solution the Secretary General had been telling the council for months was being undermined by events on the ground.

    Asked if the resolution would affect the settlement process, McCully said it was a question for the Israeli Government to answer.

    "We hope that the parties, all of them, now will reflect on the position and try and find a more constructive pathway forward."

    He said would not use the term "toothless" to describe the resolution, but said it was "symbolic."

    "A good deal of what the UN does is symbolic. It can't make countries do things. You can try and set some benchmarks in terms of international opinion and I think what the council has done here is reassert the international community's commitment to the two-state solution as being the basis for a durable peace in the Middle East. ​

    The US decision to abstain was immediately condemned by Netanyahu's office as "shameful", which pointedly referred to Israel's expectation of working more closely with Trump.

    Following the vote Trump, tweeted: "As to the UN, things will be different after Jan 20."

    The United Nations maintains that settlements are illegal, but UN officials have reported a surge in construction over the past months.

    About 430,000 Israeli settlers live in the West Bank and a further 200,000 Israelis live in east Jerusalem, which Palestinians see as the capital of their future state.

    McCully said he hoped the issue would not set off New Zealand's relations with the Trump Administration on a bad footing.

    "We respect the US process by which they determine their own foreign policy and we expect reciprocity from them."

    McCully discussed a possible Security Council resolution with the outgoing US Secretary of State, John Kerry, during his visit to New Zealand last month.

    McCully then travelled to the Middle East to discuss it with others, including Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu led Israel's response to today's resolution saying: "Israel rejects this shameful anti-Israel resolution at the UN and will not abide by its terms.

    "At a time when the Security Council does nothing to stop the slaughter of half a million people in Syria, it disgracefully gangs up on the one true democracy in the Middle East, Israel, and calls the Western Wall 'occupied territory'.

    "The Obama Administration not only failed to protect Israel against this gang-up at the UN, it colluded with it behind the scenes.

    "Israel looks forward to working with President-elect Trump and with all our friends in Congress - Republicans and Democrats alike - to negate the harmful effects of this absurd resolution."

    Diplomatic relations between New Zealand and Israel broke down during the Helen Clark Government after two Israelis, thought to be Mossad agents, were accused of passport fraud.

    New Zealand received an apology from Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and Israel eventually set up an embassy in Wellington.

    The John Key Government also had its difficulties when Israel refused to allow New Zealand's ambassador to Israel, Jonathan Curr, to present his credentials because he was simultaneously accredited to the Palestinian Authority.

    The New Zealand Government got around it by appointing Sir Jim McClay, a special envoy of Key and a more senior diplomat, to be New Zealand's representative to the Palestinian Authority, although New Zealand-based. ​

    McCully said New Zealand had no plans to withdraw Curr.

    The statement said Netanyahu ordered a series of diplomatic steps against the countries who co-sponsored "the anti-Israeli resolution in the Security Council and with whom Israel has diplomatic relations".

    The steps were:
    •Instructed Israel's ambassadors in New Zealand and Senegal to immediately return to Israel for consultations.
    •Ordered the cancellation of the planned visit to Israel of the Senegalese Foreign Minister in three weeks.
    •Instructed the Foreign Ministry to cancel all aid programmes to Senegal.
    •Ordered the cancellation of visits in Israel of the non-resident ambassadors of Senegal and New Zealand.

    The New Zealand Jewish Council has called on the Governments of New Zealand and Israel to work together to keep the Israeli embassy in Wellington open.

    Spokeswoman Juliet Moses said the embassy played a vital role in Jewish life in New Zealand, supporting Jewish festivals and cultural acitivities and facilitating business links.

    - NZ Herald

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    I don't think the New Zealand govt has anything to apologise to the Israelis for more likely the opposite. For the Israelis to say this has set back peace after nearly 50 years of illegal occupation with absolutely nothing to show but more illegal settlements is a masterly stroke of delusion.
    Won't be long before the "anti semetic" line is rolled out. Ho hum.
    A states right to exist should not come at the expense of denying the rights of another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
    For the Israelis to say this has set back peace after nearly 50 years of illegal occupation with absolutely nothing to show but more illegal settlements is a masterly stroke of delusion.
    No, not masterly, just the typical spoilt brat manipulative woman posturing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
    A states right to exist should not come at the expense of denying the rights of another.
    Exactly. Everyone knows this, yet the US keeps supporting Israel's deliberate flauting of this fundamental human right.

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    Won't be long before the "anti semetic" line is rolled out. Ho hum.
    Of course. As always.
    Hey, this entire thread is antisemitic, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam
    No, not masterly, just the typical spoilt brat manipulative woman posturing.
    Eh? How did women get brought into this??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam
    Of course. As always.
    Hey, this entire thread is antisemitic, isn't it?
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    I don't believe so MN. But I find the anti semetic line is used like mysogenist, islamophobe, homophobe, climate denyer and many more usually ending in "ist" by the politically correct lobby to stifle free speech or a dissenting view regardless of the validity of the argument.
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    The UN resolution was passed 14-0, with one abstention- the USA, naturally.
    It's a start- the US is not your colony Israel- and neither is Palestine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    It's a start- the US is not your colony Israel-
    Didn't Mr trump try and stop the introduction of the resolution?

    Donald Trump sides with Israel against U.N. resolution, calls for veto of anti-settlement demand - Washington Times

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    Mr. Trump said the resolution “puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis.”
    “The resolution being considered at the United Nations Security Council regarding Israel should be vetoed,” he said in a statement. “As the United States has long maintained, peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties, and not through the imposition of terms by the United Nations."
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Israeli defence minister Avigdor Lieberman has likened an upcoming peace conference in France to the trial of Alfred Dreyfus. "Tis is the modern version of the Dreyfus trial" he said.

    He also said: "This might also be the time to tell French Jews - that is not your country, that is not your land. Leave France and come to Israel."

    PM Netanyahu has reportedly advised his ministers to refrain from travelling to countries that supported the UN resolution as well as meeting with officials representing those countries.

    Netanyahu has also halted Israeli funding of five UN bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
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    land the Palestinians want for a future state
    Land the Palestinian's want? It is their land.
    Since a larger percentage of the region was theirs from the start.
    Conveniently appropriated from them......





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