Thread: Knife attack in London

One dead, several hurt in central London knife attack - BBC News

Hope I'm wrong, but it does look like London is now up...

Sorry if the link won't work, bloody iPad, at 7am in Dehli airport...

Early days ...

A pissed of scotsman.

Not clear yet, lots of use of the words "mentally unstable", "mental condition", etc.

But, also comments from the police that terrorism cannot be ruled out.

A 19-year-old man was arrested at 22:39 after a Taser was discharged by an officer. The Met said mental health was a "significant factor" in the events.

One dead, five injured in central London knife attack - BBC News

Of course being mental doesn't rule out terrorism.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

(no suggestion of that thusfar in this case, I hasten to add)

Then why bring it up?

^ because that's the nature of discourse... You may notice the website I linked to; people have differing views, motivtations, politiks, etc, and communicate such.

You may question why the police spokesman mentioned "mental health"; was he a psychiatrist? Was the killer a known patient at a mental health facility or is this standard police discourse nowadays?

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

(no suggestion of that thusfar in this case, I hasten to add)

Then why bring it up?

In the light of current events, why not?

I'll call it a terror related attack, police have increase armed patrols [ BBC news ] you don't give out overtime, armed or not for a one off incident.

If it was just a care in the community nutter of his meds, no need to up police patrols.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

If it was just a care in the community nutter of his meds,

Few on here!

Originally Posted by jamescollister

I'll call it a terror related attack, police have increase armed patrols [ BBC news ] you don't give out overtime, armed or not for a one off incident. If it was just a care in the community nutter of his meds, no need to up police patrols.

It's called 'Hearts and Minds'. They're there to calm down a worried public after all that's happened over in France etc.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Not clear yet, lots of use of the words "mentally unstable", "mental condition", etc.

But, also comments from the police that terrorism cannot be ruled out.

Lots of mental health issues lately, in fact one commentator suggested people must be mentally disturbed to go around killing people for no reason. Whatever works.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

I'll call it a terror related attack, police have increase armed patrols [ BBC news ] you don't give out overtime, armed or not for a one off incident.

If it was just a care in the community nutter of his meds, no need to up police patrols.

I'm sure Londoners will feel a lot safer having armed police on the streets to cope with the outbreak of mentally disturbance, while any would be jihadists will be shitting themselves, though it could also be that Europe is just warming up.

Meanwhile not a word from the msm on the Swedes holding a Turkish ship bristling with 13 containers of explosives, rockets and ammunition bound for an undisclosed Mid-East port, or that it had already stopped at a number of other Euro-ports, including Sheerness. But as the ship was due to unload some of its cargo in Sweden, it may have done just that at Sheerness and wherever else it took to port.

No mention of origin, but known stops are UK and Sweden, destination Mid east, which set me wondering if the army preparing to move against civilians is now well armed, whether by the Whiskey Trio and or other sources.

And perish the thought that the media might be complicit in keeping the people pig ignorant.

I thought believing in any invisible being could be classed a mental illness.



RIP to the lady who died.

So it's not OK to speculate that this is another well balanced Somali adjusting well to life in Europe?

Originally Posted by blue

Metropolitan Police says #RussellSquare knife attack suspect is a Norwegian national of Somali origin

Norwegian, and so many were ready to point at the Muslims!

Originally Posted by AndyCap

So it's not OK to speculate that this is another well balanced Somali adjusting well to life in Europe?

It appears that all his intended victims were white ,but has he was black we can safely rule racism out cos we all know that only white people can be racists don't we?

Headline from Skynews:

London Knife Attack Suspect A Norwegian


Subheading:
An American woman is pronounced dead at the scene following an attack most likely "triggered by mental health issues".

First paragraph:
A 19-year-old Norwegian believed to have mental health issues is in custody after a deadly knife attack that left one dead and five injured in central London.

Sixth paragraph:
The suspect, who is of Somali descent, was arrested on suspicion of murder six minutes later after being taken out by a Taser.

One mention of (around 8th paragraph):
Mr Rowley said "so far we have found no evidence of radicalisation".
London Knife Attack Suspect A Norwegian

But lots of mention of:

As a precautionary measure Mr Rowley said extra police would be deployed in London on Thursday to provide reassurance.

??? Why? A precautionary measure about other mentally ill folks who may start stabbing tourists? This discourse of this incident just reads really strangely.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Just before I gave up living in London and moved to Asia, say 15ishhhhhh years ago, there were lots of incidents of murder and violence in my niceishhhh suburb of Southgate which were all done by immigrants - maybe just a coincidence in a two or three week period (all of them were to and from my walk to the train station; 2 of which I personally viewed). Anyways, the last, that really irritated me, was a Somalian who used to hang around the station demanding folks gave him their one day travel card when they came out of the station, pick them out of the bins, etc, then he'd sell them onto other scroats... The station security were seemingly too scared of being called racists to do anything about it despite numerous complaints. Soooo, one day, as I returned home, he came up to me trying to see what my ticket was... I tore it into several pieces before I put it in the bin, so he couldn't take it out and use it/sell it. At this point he pulled out a knife and started to threaten me, at which point I wanted to take his fukin head off, but the security came out of the station (probably watching on camera) and started to tell me off, and said they were gonna take me to the police station and make some kind of complaint - at that point, I knew it was time to live somewhere else...

I like most of your posts, but this one raises a question (that I hope you'll take in your stride).
Why would you destroy something that you don't want so as to deliberately deprive someone of it's usefulness to them? It was no skin off your nose if he used or sold it, and I guess whoever bought it would have gotten it at a discount, so that's another person deprived. My mum would have done what you did. I wouldn't have.

To me it's like keeping your pay-and-display parking ticket that still has an hour on it rather than give it to the bloke that's about to park in the spot you're vacating.

^ The element of 'foreigners' coming into the community and causing violence does taint one's opinion against them. I'm sure there are many lovely Somalians, great people, but my experiences of them in London are very negative, sorry if that makes me sound racist, but it's my life experiences. As I stated below, if the UK keeps bringing in refugees from war zones what do they expect is gonna happen?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

I like most of your posts, but this one raises a question (that I hope you'll take in your stride).
Why would you destroy something that you don't want so as to deliberately deprive someone of it's usefulness to them?

The guy harassed folks by illegal and threatening activity.

I try to abide by the laws, so I'm not gonna give my one day travel card to some bloke who is just aiming to sell it; I'd be aiding and abetting a crime; ticket prices would be driven up if everyone did this, etc.

& most of my posts are distinctly average, so I never mind folks disagreeing with them (sensible so, more often than not).

Regarding the parking ticket, it's similar, but a bit different. That space has been sold already for an hour, so I'd probably give my ticket to somebody else - as the space has already been paid for. I realize some folks won't see a consistency in these two areas; I'm not claiming to be consistent...

In this case, was the Somali guy born in Norway then? That's what 'Somali decent' implies. I used to argue this years ago back in the UK: bringing folks into the UK who were bought up in war zones was a terrible idea. Just like sending soldiers around the world into war zones then bringing them back to the UK and kicking them out of the army was always gonna be a disaster too. I don't know the details of this case, but in general terms, have ex-soldiers and folks from war zones strolling around the UK is just disasters waiting to happen; and most folks who've spend time in war zones must suffer mental distress that affects their 'normal' life. Thus, when is the UK gonna stop going around the world warring and stop taking refugees from war zones in???

Increasingly, I don't think we do have a duty to help these refugees; I don't want anybody from a war zone brought into the UK. But, we have a duty not to invade their country, cause war and generally make people's lives in other parts of the globe shite which we are constantly doing...

Same same with the train tickets in Germany, after 22:00 in Frankfurt it was bloody dangerous a few years back - it's the aggressive approach, then once you've stopped to discuss with the buggers anything could happen.

Can't really picture. Somali approaching Betty, wringing his hands saying "excuse me", more likely open aggression and attitude.

Fuck em...they are a savage bunch

Originally Posted by AndyCap

Same same with the train tickets in Germany, after 22:00 in Frankfurt it was bloody dangerous a few years back - it's the aggressive approach, then once you've stopped to discuss with the buggers anything could happen.

Can't really picture. Somali approaching Betty, wringing his hands saying "excuse me", more likely open aggression and attitude.

Fuck em...they are a savage bunch

I can see that along with Bettyboo you don't believe in "turn the other cheek "and "the meek shall inherit the Earth "

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I knew it was time to live somewhere else...

I knew it was time when I came across a group of youths throwing a contractors stuff around after forcing entry into his compound. I admit I grabbed one kid who tried to run off and made him and the others clean up the mess.
After I let them go the lad I grabbed phoned the police and said that I'd slapped his face. I was arrested and placed in a cell for 2 hours whilst they investigated the assault. I was released after the police said they felt the lads injury wasn't consistent with being struck.
Were the youth prosecuted? Were they fcuk.