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    Smile The Rise of Fake Viagra.



    More unlicensed erectile dysfunction drugs were seized in the UK by the authorities last year than ever before - worth more than 11m. The Victoria Derbyshire programme joined a raid to find out why they are a problem.
    The market for unlicensed Viagra is huge and most of it heads for the internet, where pills are sold for 2 to 3 each. These tend to be imitations or a generic Indian version of the drug - Kamagra - which are shipped to the UK in bulk, packaged up and posted on.
    But what the computer-based consumers may not realise is the pills are made in unhygienic, unregulated locations and could contain toxic chemicals like lead and arsenic, the agency which regulates medicines says.
    The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) conducted its biggest-ever operation last week in an attempt to find the fakes, with search warrants at 24 properties conducted by 50 officers across London.



    Speaking outside a suburban street where one of the raids was taking place, Danny Lee-Frost from the MHRSA says: "When you log on to a website and you see a picture of a scientist in a white coat and stethoscope, it all looks above board. But your medicines are not coming from a pharmacy, they are coming from a street like this.
    "We've recovered medicines that are being sold from a shed in a back garden that was damp and rotten, there were rats and mice crawling all over the stuff."
    Viagra is a prescription drug, meaning it needs to come from a doctor or pharmacist. But doctors believe there are many more people buying it on the internet and using it in a completely unregulated way.
    Dr Hamed Khan GP said: "I've had a number of people who've had very serious side affects like visual problems, people could potentially faint, you could have dangerous reductions in blood pressure or even potentially heart problems."
    So how do you spot a fake? At a counterfeit testing lab run by Pfizer - the drug company that makes Viagra - they examine products from around the world, and have found counterfeits in 111 countries.



    They can tell by the colour of writing on the pack, while the actual tablets might be a different shade of blue. They then test them by taking a small amount and looking at its chemical footprint.
    Pfizer vice-president Tommy Dolan says people may not know they are buying counterfeit products if they have nothing to compare them with.
    "Sometimes the match can be close enough that the counterfeit is reasonably good, other times due to a lack of medication or too much medication in the product or agents that have been added that shouldn't be in the product that are toxic, the patient could come to significant harm," he says.
    From 2014 to 2015 the MHRA seized fake Viagra valued at 3,890,516 from a yearly total of counterfeit drugs of 8,696,067. From 2015 to 2016 this had tripled to 11,205,342, making up 90% of counterfeit drugs seized that year.

    While no pills were found at the property we saw being searched, the agency has 25m of fake medicine collected over the past few years in its lock-up.
    Where is the demand coming from?
    Mr Lee-Frost says there is a strong youth market for the drug. "It's used by adult males who don't actually have the medical condition which this could be prescribed for. They use it as a sexual enhancement for the weekend."
    Dr Hamed Khan adds: "Increasingly younger people have been trying to obtain Viagra as they see it as a sort of recreational drug almost and it boosts them psychologically, which it absolutely doesn't, it's a drug that only has physical effects and that misconception is leading to younger people trying it even if they don't need it."
    After dozens of searches and three arrests, the agency finds some bags of pills, but it is not as much as they had hoped. They believe the only way to win is to stop people buying it.

    Record amount of fake Viagra seized - BBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
    Dr Hamed Khan GP said: "I've had a number of people who've had very serious side affects like visual problems, people could potentially faint, you could have dangerous reductions in blood pressure or even potentially heart problems."
    But did it give them a raging hard-on?...

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    no doubt they'll receive a stiff sentence after being nailed

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    ^^^^ This doctor wouldn't happen to be on Pfizer's payroll, would he?

    "These tend to be imitations or a generic Indian version of the drug - Kamagra - which are shipped to the UK in bulk, packaged up and posted on."

    So in reality, the majority of it is not fake Viagra at all, nor is it disguised to look like the name brand. It's inexpensive generic Viagra that is hurting Pfizer's profits.
    There's a big difference between a fake drug (one that has no active ingredients) and the misuse of the word "fake" to describe one that is not made by the big pharma company that invented it.

    The patent on Viagra has expired and whether Pfizer likes it or not, Indian drug companies are entitled to manufacture it.


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    Viagra counterfeiters are hardened criminals.

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    Thailand makes it's own version of Viagra now, eh? Anyone tried it?

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    If Pfizer sold their products at a fair price and western governments took their greedy fingers out of the pie this trade would not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans Mann View Post
    Viagra counterfeiters are hardened criminals.

    And their customers should be charged for Handling Swollen Goods
    Last edited by boloa; 18-05-2016 at 11:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Thailand makes it's own version of Viagra now, eh? Anyone tried it?

    OK I confess, costs about 3 Baht a pill at the Navy Clinic in Sattahip, and they're blue, just like the "real" ones.

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    Do Thais have to pay for condoms, too?...Or is there a program where they can get free condoms in the interest of safe sex, like some other countries...

    Notice that the price of condoms is way outta line...Must be to fck the farang...

    Notice how they can't fck the farang too much on the travel front...Because all Thais need to travel a lot, so their transportation is still reasonable...Ah, the "measure" of a country...

    Used to judge the US of A on its cheap gas, cigarettes, and beer...Back in the 80's...

    Sorry to digress a tad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Thailand makes it's own version of Viagra now, eh? Anyone tried it?
    Recall a thread a couple years ago regarding a Thai natural/herbal supplement - which seems to be the trend these days in these circles.......unlike Viagra or Viagra-like, which is a pharmaceutical chemical induced ingredient.

    Most of the "super-supplements" are of natural agents today, as Viagra and their chemical brethren received bad reputations for dangerous side effects and health issues.

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    ^
    Yaa Grakcu....?


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    Graku eh,

    Does it work? Just asking for my mate mind *ahem*cough*cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
    "I've had a number of people who've had very serious side affects like visual problems, people could potentially faint, you could have dangerous reductions in blood pressure or even potentially heart problems."
    About the same potential side effects as the original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
    "I've had a number of people who've had very serious side affects like visual problems, people could potentially faint, you could have dangerous reductions in blood pressure or even potentially heart problems."
    About the same potential side effects as the original.

    It is kind of silly to take them without first consulting a doctor. Hard to tell if the deaths are from the drug itself or from the physical activity it facilitates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCap View Post
    Graku eh,

    Does it work? Just asking for my mate mind *ahem*cough*cough*
    A "friend" tried it and reported that it does work. Only problems a slightly racy heartbeat, and for about 2-3 hours, whatever White colour things he could see, all had a Bluish tint to them. True story, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans Mann View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCap View Post
    Graku eh,

    Does it work? Just asking for my mate mind *ahem*cough*cough*
    A "friend" tried it and reported that it does work. Only problems a slightly racy heartbeat, and for about 2-3 hours, whatever White colour things he could see, all had a Bluish tint to them. True story, yes.

    ...in some circles, Gracku is referred to as ซูเปอร์สีฟ้า!!

    Heh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Thailand makes it's own version of Viagra now, eh? Anyone tried it?
    Sidegra.

    Yeah, I bring some if going away for a weekend with a mistress.

    Usually about 6-8 times over a night and morning.

    It's 200-300b for a 4 pack of 100mg tabs. I think it's legally supposed to be 180b, but you need a prescription, so I believe. Pop half a 100mg tab 20 minutes ye arrive and (8 times later) she won't be walking to lunch the next day.

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    ^^
    That could be because it's a knock-off of the original สีฟ้า, yes.

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    ^ you sure know how to get your moneys worth out of those 200 baht a night Bangsaen hookers

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    Graku eh, Does it work? Just asking for my mate mind *ahem*cough*cough*
    Dunno 'bout Gracku but I can get you some fake Strepsils pretty cheap for that nasty cough. Fell off the back of a lorry they did. *wink*wink*

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCap
    Does it work? Just asking for my mate mind *ahem*cough*cough*
    Mabe if you was to wear the red high heels he bought you for xmas he wouldnt need it

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    Ah ha, that's where I've been going wrong


    And "my mate" doesn't need any fake cough tablets, he's not got a cough, just a limp dick thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCap View Post
    Graku eh,

    Does it work? Just asking for my mate mind *ahem*cough*cough*
    We're descending to a lower level here, but they're great. Even if you're someone who can get an erection without Viagra, the drug makes it so hard that it gets numb and that delays ejaculation essentially as long as you want to.

    Unfortunately and probably not surprisingly repeated use is supposed to be bad for your organ.

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