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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat View Post
    I agree with him. Whatever horrific trauma a person goes through. Self pity is not the way out of it. Self pity will only, perhaps, make the trauma even greater than it was.

    Getting professional help, even decades later, is the only way.

    It's like, if you listen to a friend go on and on and on about one little thing in their life. And every conversation is about that same subject. You eventually give up trying to help - that person turns to self pity. Because the only person who will listen is themself.

    And, Blue, your homophobic comments are getting a bit old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Shit happens in life. Lots of shit. Bad shit, horrible shit. It is part of being alive. Dealing with it is one thing. Wallowing in self pity for the rest of your life is another thing.

    It is not all flowers and puppies. Realizing that is part of being an adult.
    Self pity is part of the recovery process from abuse.
    It's a depressive state and initially a cry for help, which if attended to appropriately can quickly be progressed toward full recovery from the symptoms of trauma, including post-traumatic stress.

    Wallowing in self pity is playing the victim, a role, an act seeking unnecessary attention that someone has learned to grown neurotically dependent on.

    Other victims of abuse indulge in denial, which is equally as painful as justifiable self pity, but socially more acceptable as the problems involved aren't immediately obvious to society, the victim doesn't even complain, just bottles it all up to explode, later.

    It's not really understandable that Fry, who's suffered depression, could be socallously dismissive of traumatized abuse victims, who often clearly are not "wallowing" in self pity as suggested, but are still shocked and confused by the enormity of the abuse received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    And, Blue, your homophobic comments are getting a bit old.
    its just factl sorry you are tired of hearing the sordid truth.
    its classic victim to offender cycle
    Fry was attached by a homosexual as a schoolboy,

    unfortunately some victims of child abuse go on to abuse themselves
    why ? don't know, but they do , obviously they haven't dealt with it very well and it has effected their mental health,

    Fry turns to homosexualty himself, even gets a childish looking partner to dominate and sneers at other victims now its his turn to have the power ,and continue the cycle ...

    So my point stands
    its a bit rich him telling others to get over it and making light of their abuse, when he himself clearly hasn't.

    ''Fry, who served three months in prison aged 17 for credit card fraud''
    he didn't end up happily married with children, instead he's a fat old fag at the paedo BBC...


    Plenty of psychological studies about it - of course they are too PC to include data those that were infected by homosexualty and why

    eg
    Roughly one in 10 male victims of child sex abuse in a U.K. study later went on to abuse children as adults.

    Child Abuse Victims Don't Always Become Adult Abusers

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    If I was Elton, i'd be annoyed about having to take out superinjunctions to save my oily olive oil threesome luvvin husband.

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    This fry geezers right out of order. Nasty little chutney ferret.

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    Telling people to man up is a bit strange coming from a bloke who tried to top himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat View Post
    Getting professional help, even decades later, is the only way.
    Really?

    I beg to differ, as the self pity initially displayed is the best 'handle' to latch onto in getting the traumatized victim past the shock and into recovery.

    If ignored, the self pity can turn into a neurotic dependency upon any feed-back or negative attention, a destructive cycle.

    Waiting until later really doesn't help at all, as all of the victim's decisions and behaviour after the assault are going to be negatively affected, right through into adulthood.

    I don't think Fry's properly resolved his early traumatic abuse problems to be able to come out unsympathetically against those not stoic enough for his liking.

    Tough love?

    No way, it's blatant ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    If ignored, the self pity can turn into a neurotic dependency upon any feed-back or negative attention, a destructive cycle.
    Good point, but remember that without those people most internet forums would be almost completely empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Fry has all the hallmarks of being one of the BBC pedos.
    Isn't a hallmark of being a BBC pedo being aggressively heterosexual? I know that you're not often at home to Captain Reality but even you must realise that open camp homosexuality is hardly a characteristic of your average BBC pedo.

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    Stephen Fry has a massive following on Twitter, even the press print his Twitter feeds.

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    15 FEBRUARY 2016 • 2:47PM
    Stephen Fry appears to have deleted his Twitter account after comments he made while hosting the BAFTAs were roundly condemned by fellow Twitter-users.


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    I don't know the sex of the cat in my av. But it looks a bit ginger, and usually ginger cats are male. But it could be a female. Kissing another female. Or a young buck kissing a male. Who knows.

    I found the pic on the internet. It resembles Springtime. I thought it was cute.

    I'll get a new one for summer. Showing dark thunder clouds bellowing over lake Geneva. Would that be better?

    I like Stephen Fry. I enjoy watching QI etc. he is very well edumacated and has a great, dry sense of humour. He is also a self confessed ex coke addict. There is no way in hell that he would be a child abuser. He's just too much himself to do such things. and i would think he would be appalled to be accused of such stuff. His husband is 28. he is happy. Leave him alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    I'll get a new one for summer. Showing dark thunder clouds bellowing over lake Geneva. Would that be better?
    Maybe Stephen Fry bellowing over Lake Geneva? Just my personal preference, of course, although I do like the gay feline/rodent combo. As for what you say about S Fry, I agree. I've read his books, he's no hero. He's honest, he's funny, he writes well. He knows what a shit he was when he was younger. We should all aspire to the same. Good man, Stephen.

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    He's one to talk about self pity, how many times have we heard him bleating about his mental illness and suicide plans? I wonder if he actually met any abuse victims at all, sometimes the devastation is so great they just cannot 'forget and get on with it'. I have known three abuse victims, one abused by step father and brother, spoke out and put in a kids home where she was further abused. She's never been able to hold down a job and still on pills 40 years later. Nephew became schizophrenic possibly due to the abuse he suffered, killed himself aged 41. His mother never got over her two children being abused by their uncle, she killed herself as well. One survivor who managed to get on with it, but not the person she would have been. The headlines about sexual abuse of children is just the tip of an iceberg of suffering and the victims don't need any lectures from a fat 'bi polar' poof on how they should be living their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
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    Homosexual queers see nothing wrong in molesting little boys, why would Fry be any different.
    The Uncle will start off touching and will progress to rape.
    As is the case with the heterosexual persuasion, whom make up the clear majority of paedophile sociopathy.
    "Persuasion"?!

    Who needs persuading? Life wouldn't exist without it being the prime directive, FFS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Fry has all the hallmarks of being one of the BBC pedos.
    Isn't a hallmark of being a BBC pedo being aggressively heterosexual? I know that you're not often at home to Captain Reality but even you must realise that open camp homosexuality is hardly a characteristic of your average BBC pedo.
    I wonder what the percentages of paedos per proclivity are... a different story?
    I remember shortly before it all kicked off I posted a comment on here about my finding Savile to be a weird and sinister character, in the face of others on this forum praising him as a wonderful person to which we should all aspire to be like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    I'll get a new one for summer. Showing dark thunder clouds bellowing over lake Geneva. Would that be better?
    Maybe Stephen Fry bellowing over Lake Geneva? Just my personal preference, of course, although I do like the gay feline/rodent combo. As for what you say about S Fry, I agree. I've read his books, he's no hero. He's honest, he's funny, he writes well. He knows what a shit he was when he was younger. We should all aspire to the same. Good man, Stephen.
    Can't stand the dribbling egomaniac. Hardly someone to aspire to be like. He's made a career out of doing the same faux intellectual routine, for want of the real talent that his former comedy partner seemed to have more of. He comes across as a tedious, repetitive, unorginal, puerile, pseudo-intellectual, self-obsessed, dumb fuck. I've no idea why you like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Fry has all the hallmarks of being one of the BBC pedos.
    Isn't a hallmark of being a BBC pedo being aggressively heterosexual? I know that you're not often at home to Captain Reality but even you must realise that open camp homosexuality is hardly a characteristic of your average BBC pedo.
    I wonder what the percentages of paedos per proclivity are... a different story?
    I remember shortly before it all kicked off I posted a comment on here about my finding Savile to be a weird and sinister character, in the face of others on this forum praising him as a wonderful person to which we should all aspire to be like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    I'll get a new one for summer. Showing dark thunder clouds bellowing over lake Geneva. Would that be better?
    Maybe Stephen Fry bellowing over Lake Geneva? Just my personal preference, of course, although I do like the gay feline/rodent combo. As for what you say about S Fry, I agree. I've read his books, he's no hero. He's honest, he's funny, he writes well. He knows what a shit he was when he was younger. We should all aspire to the same. Good man, Stephen.
    Can't stand the dribbling egomaniac. Hardly someone to aspire to be like. He's made a career out of doing the same faux intellectual routine, for want of the real talent that his former comedy partner seemed to have more of. He comes across as a tedious, repetitive, unorginal, puerile, pseudo-intellectual, self-obsessed, dumb fuck. I've no idea why you like him.
    Because he's overweight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94 View Post
    The headlines about sexual abuse of children is just the tip of an iceberg of suffering and the victims don't need any lectures from a fat 'bi polar' poof on how they should be living their lives.
    Neatly summed up.

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