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    Milton Keynes school turns away 29 girls for not dressing 'demurely'

    Headteacher defends uniform policy saying it protects girls from boys’ advances, prompting accusations of victim blaming


    Campaigner Laura Bates said such uniform policies can suggest to girls that they must cover up as the only way to avoid harassment or judgment. Photograph: Sarah Lee for the Guardian

    A comprehensive school has sent home dozens of schoolgirls after telling them their trousers and skirts were not “demure and modest”, prompting claims by activists that teachers are promoting victim blaming.

    Female pupils were turned away at the gates of Lord Grey school in Bletchley, Milton Keynes, on Monday, the first day back after the Easter holidays, if they failed to pass a uniform check, according to local reports.

    The headteacher, Dr Tracey Jones, told the Milton Keynes Citizen that 29 girls were sent home because their trousers were too tight or their skirts were too short. She said the policy protected girls from unwanted attention or advances from boys in the school.

    Gender equality campaigners said the school’s stance reinforced victim-blaming stereotypes and pointed out that boys were not subjected to the same levels of judgment over what they wore.

    Defending the policy, Jones said: “We are protecting our female students. They should look demure and modest and not appear over-sexualised in figure-hugging trousers or very short skirts. We have a tower block with six flights of stairs. The last thing we want is boys peering up girls’ skirts while they are climbing the stairs.”

    Jones said students and parents were given warning that the uniform check would happen on the first day back after the Easter holidays. “We warned that students would be sent home if their uniform did not comply. School rules state skirts should be knee length and trousers should be loose fitting,” she said.

    The school has remained defiant, emphasising in a newsletter on Thursday that it would “continue to take a strong stance on adherence to our uniform policy, especially with girls who are wearing short skirts and tight trousers”.

    “This is to protect their modesty as they are still children,” the newsletter stated.

    Laura Bates, the founder of the Everyday Sexism Project, whose forthcoming book Girl Up tackles issues including school dress codes, said there was a real risk that schools were perpetuating sexist societal stereotypes and projecting them on to girls, rather than empowering their pupils to step outside them.

    “Girls’ bodies and dress are often policed much more severely than boys’, and – especially when you start throwing around words like ‘modest’ and ‘demure’ – there is a real sense of girls being judged and valued on their dress and a moral judgement being applied in a way that certainly isn’t happening to their male peers,” Bates said.

    “Such attitudes also often project societal ideas about the sexualisation of women’s bodies on to often quite young girls without taking into account their own intent or autonomy, suggesting their bodies are inherently sexual and provocative and they must cover them up as the only means of avoiding harassment or judgement.”

    Bates said it was common to see girls’ behaviour being policed or restricted rather than tackling boys’ harassment or sexual bullying.

    “I’d be particularly sad to hear a school sending the message that if boys look up girls’ skirts on the stairs, for example, the answer is to punish the girls and police their clothing rather than teaching boys such behaviour is unacceptable,” she said.

    “This really risks reinforcing victim-blaming societal stereotypes, which girls might later encounter in the context of more serious abuse, and it is sad for schools to lay the foundations by suggesting early that male harassment is inevitable and so the only way to prevent it is to police women’s behaviour.”

    Milton Keynes school turns away 29 girls for not dressing 'demurely' | Education | The Guardian
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    One of the benefits of secondary education in the 1960s. There's always a PC spoilsport around these days.
    The only way to stop boys looking up girls skirts is to build single story schools.


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    ^ University students, Chas.

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    When I was at school the girls always had roughly knee length skirts at school it wasn't until they got out of sight of the school that they wound them up at the waist until they were fashionable.

    Statistically girls who go to all girls schools have higher academic achievement. On has to assume because they are not distracted by all the sexual stuff.
    Better to think inside the pub, than outside the box?
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    FFS we are going to build a nation of sexually repressed young adult males.

    It's a rape time bomb waiting to go off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    ^ University students, Chas.
    From google ....... search for thai uni students uniform .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    ^ University students, Chas.
    From google ....... search for thai uni students uniform .......
    Yes, I know what they are, Chas. I've seen plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    FFS we are going to build a nation of sexually repressed young adult males.

    It's a rape time bomb waiting to go off.
    That's what's behind it, these schoolgirls are in danger of being raped by the new economic migrants who will mistake their undress.

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    Anyone who has raised a daughter has experienced the frustration of trying to convince a teenager that dressing with class is attractive in a nice way, dressing slutty is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Yes, I know what they are, Chas. I've seen plenty.
    Sorry Nev. In that case, I don't see the point you are trying to make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Yes, I know what they are, Chas. I've seen plenty.
    Sorry Nev. In that case, I don't see the point you are trying to make?
    Nice as Thai uni girls in uniforms are to look at, the article is about a comprehensive school in England, so I guess I was unsure as to the point you were making with the Thai uni pics - unless it was gratuitous sexiness. In that case, carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    FFS we are going to build a nation of sexually repressed young adult males.
    Many have given up and turned now .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    FFS we are going to build a nation of sexually repressed young adult males.

    It's a rape time bomb waiting to go off.
    That's right. Rape is never the man's fault. He's always forced into it. Really the rapist is the victim, right? You complete dick! I hope you never approach within 50 miles of any woman I know.

    Whether or not you or I approve of the way any woman dresses there is never, ever, under any circumstances, any excuse or justification for rape. Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    ^ University students, Chas.
    From google ....... search for thai uni students uniform .......
    The article is about 14 and 15 year-old schoolgirls. Care to post some pictures of them too, Gary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    FFS we are going to build a nation of sexually repressed young adult males.

    It's a rape time bomb waiting to go off.
    That's right. Rape is never the man's fault. He's always forced into it. Really the rapist is the victim, right? You complete dick! I hope you never approach within 50 miles of any woman I know.

    Whether or not you or I approve of the way any woman dresses there is never, ever, under any circumstances, any excuse or justification for rape. Never.
    I think your both missing the point.

    Poor timothy is already having hard enough time paying attention to the teacher and keep up with the girls even without the distraction of wondering if samantha wearing knickers or not.

    plenty of time to play doctors and nurses outside school hours... no need to let them distract each other during school hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    The article is about 14 and 15 year-old schoolgirls. Care to post some pictures of them too, Gary?
    Your mind, such as it is, really works in some weird circles to arrive at that conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Nice as Thai uni girls in uniforms are to look at, the article is about a comprehensive school in England, so I guess I was unsure as to the point you were making with the Thai uni pics - unless it was gratuitous sexiness. In that case, carry on.
    It demonstrates how teenage girls dressed at my secondary school in the sixties.
    If I posted up the real thing, some clown would undoubtedly get the wrong end of the stick.

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    they will be sending them home for not wearing a veil soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Nice as Thai uni girls in uniforms are to look at, the article is about a comprehensive school in England, so I guess I was unsure as to the point you were making with the Thai uni pics - unless it was gratuitous sexiness. In that case, carry on.
    It demonstrates how teenage girls dressed at my secondary school in the sixties.
    If I posted up the real thing, some clown would undoubtedly get the wrong end of the stick.
    Ah. OK. Understood now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Yes, things have changed a bit from the days of the Belles of St Trinians.
    You are George Cole and I claim my 10/-.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    FFS we are going to build a nation of sexually repressed young adult males.

    It's a rape time bomb waiting to go off.
    That's right. Rape is never the man's fault. He's always forced into it. Really the rapist is the victim, right? You complete dick! I hope you never approach within 50 miles of any woman I know.

    Whether or not you or I approve of the way any woman dresses there is never, ever, under any circumstances, any excuse or justification for rape. Never.
    I never said there is you fucking plank.

    Way to try and put words in someone's mouth, you dickhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    FFS we are going to build a nation of sexually repressed young adult males.

    It's a rape time bomb waiting to go off.
    That's what's behind it, these schoolgirls are in danger of being raped by the new economic migrants who will mistake their undress.
    Exactly.

    How many women do you who will tell you about what they experience going on holiday to places like Turkey - especially blonde women.

    I'm sorry, but we have to maintain our standards of de-repression.
    This is the thin end... first it's clothes, then it's segregation, and we already have segregated religious schools, with the faux justification that all types of segregation (i.e.: whether class, gender or relgion, or anything else) produce better results. Education is more than just about "results" on a piece of paper - it's results in terms of outcomes in the society we live in.

    The moment you walk down a street in an English town or city, and some swarthy-skinned hairy-faced heavily-accented begowned peasant strolls up to and starts telling you that it's their area and things are done their way, then you may start to feel a little differently about any lingering lefty pro-diversity thoughts you may hold, you will initially feel fear... noting that you are outnumbered... then anger... that this is your home, and homeland... then depression, as all you read and hear in the bedia is how wonderful it all is, and how powerless you are to stop it or change it back to normal; and then that actually you and your unclean thoughts are the problem.

    This is not about sexual harrassment or this new "respeck" agenda (clearly targeted at those of dusky hue); it's about a cultural war for the soul of the nation and the future of freedom and our civilisation; and the cancer of the left that is attempting to destroy it.

    Who will save us if the vote to leave the EU fails or is compromised in some way?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQVmkDUkZT4

    we are all figments of our own imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    I think your both missing the point.

    Poor timothy is already having hard enough time paying attention to the teacher and keep up with the girls even without the distraction of wondering if samantha wearing knickers or not.

    plenty of time to play doctors and nurses outside school hours... no need to let them distract each other during school hours.
    True,

    Girls flashing the gash (nickered or not) at hormonally driven spotty youths while attending co-ed schools is a bit OTT and is something they should be doing away from the school environment.

    It's no wonder girls out-perform boys in secondary school education.

    There's nary a problem that way in primary or tertiary institutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo
    ; it's about a cultural war for the soul of the nation and the future of freedom and our civilisation



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