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    Pope to issue sex, love and marriage guide



    Vatican City (AFP) - Pope Francis will on Friday issue new guidelines on the Church's approach to love, sex and marriage in what is being billed as one of the defining moments of his tenure.

    Is he gay-friendly and relaxed about divorce and cohabitation? Or is the pontiff a conservative who understands the need to sidestep issues that put the Church at odds with how many believers live in the 21st Century?

    The verdict on the 79-year-old Argentine's legacy will in large part be framed by the contents of the document on the family that will be published on the stroke of noon.

    Officially referred to as an "apostolic exhortation", the 200-page text is effectively a letter to the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics that lays down revised foundations for Church teaching and pastoral practice on a host of issues related to family life.

    The hopes of Catholic radicals for significant changes to official doctrine were quashed during the 2014 and 2015 synods of bishops, the conclusions of which will inform without dictating the content of Francis's missive.

    But the document will also inevitably reflect the current pontiff's instinctive tendency to try to make the Church seem a more merciful, less judgemental body in relation to those faithful who find themselves in "irregular" situations.

    Influential German cardinal Walter Kasper has predicted that the exhortation will mark a "turning of the page" for the Church.

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    "Who am I to judge?" Francis said early in his papacy when asked about how the Church should deal with gay believers who, some Catholic theologians now think, have no choice about their sexuality.

    That comment and the radical language contained in an early draft of conclusions from the first synod on the family raised progressive hopes of a great leap forward in Catholic teaching on vexed questions such as whether divorced and civilly remarried believers should be allowed to take communion.

    But the strength of conservative opposition -- led by bishops from the developing world -- to a substantial relaxation of the Church's model of what the ideal family looks like has made it unlikely that will happen.

    Francis, say those who know him best, is nothing if not a pragmatist and the last thing he wants on his watch is a schism over what he once called "below the belt issues" which he regards as having assumed far too much importance in the life of the Church.

    The exhortation, entitled "Amoris Laetitia", is to be presented at the Vatican by Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn, the archbishop of Vienna who is seen as a moderniser and is himself the son of divorced parents.

    It will also be unveiled in dioceses around the world with local bishops having already been sent guidelines on how to explain the changes to their congregations.

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    Wonder what it will say about altar boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans Mann
    Pope Francis will on Friday issue new guidelines on the Church's approach to love, sex and marriage
    Subjects on which he is personally well qualified to pronounce on of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warwick
    Subjects on which he is personally well qualified to pronounce on of course.
    Along with guidance from his celibate employees.

    I could do the job in brief. "Love cock but don't get caught".

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    In related news Tony Blair will quietly convert to Catholicism and then get appointed as a UN envoy to the Middle Est in recognition of his contributions before he decides to go and rake in more cash from private gigs.

    Shut up Francis, you intolerant, homophobic dinosaur.

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    I could do the job in brief. "Love cock but don't get caught".
    Too Much Information there Chas!

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    This church has great difficulty in recruiting new priests in the advanced world, therefore it has to look for economic migrants from poor countries to move to super advanced countries to continue preach a primitive belief system, as Catholic priests.

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    The foreword to be written by this guy....


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    Pope calls for compassionate Church open to 'imperfect' Catholics

    Pope Francis on Friday called for a Church that was less strict and more compassionate towards "imperfect" Catholics, such as those who divorced and remarried, saying "no one can be condemned forever".

    Francis said gays should be respected but firmly re-stated the Church's position that there are "absolutely no grounds" to equate gay unions to heterosexual marriage.

    In a 260-page treatise called "Amoris Laetitia," (The Joy of Love), one of the most eagerly awaited pronouncements of his pontificate, Francis quoted Martin Luther King, Argentine Poet Jorge Luis Borges and even the 1987 Danish cult film Babette's Feast, to make his case for a more merciful and loving Church.

    The keenest anticipation centered on what he would say about the full re-integration into the Church of Catholics who divorce and remarry in civil ceremonies.

    Under current Church teaching they cannot receive communion unless they abstain from sex with their new partner, because their first marriage is still valid in the eyes of the Church and they are seen to be living in an adulterous state of sin.

    The only way such Catholics can remarry is if they receive an annulment, a religious ruling that their first marriage never existed because of the lack of certain pre-requisites such as psychological maturity or free will.

    "No one can be condemned forever, because that is not the logic of the Gospel! Here I am not speaking only of the divorced and remarried, but of everyone, in whatever situation they find themselves," the pope said.

    COMMUNION BAN

    Progressives have proposed the use of an "internal forum" in which a priest or bishop work with a Catholic who has divorced and remarried to decide jointly, privately and on a case-by-case basis if he or she can be fully re-integrated and receive communion.

    Francis seemed to embrace this view, saying he could "not provide a new set of general rules ... applicable to all cases", but he called for "responsible, personal and pastoral discernment of particular cases".

    Father James Bretzke, professor of moral theology at Boston College, said while Francis did not explicitly give a green light for remarried Catholics to return to communion, "the dots are pretty close together, you can connect them reasonably easily and conclude that he is saying this is a possibility.

    "If he's not opening the door, he is at least showing you where the key under the mat is."

    Francis said he understood those conservatives who "prefer a more rigorous pastoral care which leaves no room for confusion" but the Church should be more attentive to the good that can be found "in the midst of human weakness".

    "The Church turns with love to those who participate in her life in an imperfect manner," he said, including in this category those Catholics who are cohabiting, married civilly or are divorced and remarried.

    Conservative American Catholic author George Weigel said he did not see an opening to the divorced and remarried but rather "a call for the Church to be creative in integrating people in difficult situations".

    The document, formally known as an Apostolic Exhortation, followed two gatherings of Catholic bishops, or synods, that discussed family issued in 2014 and 2015.

    In other sections, Francis said young people had to be better prepared for a life-long commitment, praised the "erotic dimension" of love within marriage and said the Church needed a "healthy dose of self-criticism" for in the past preaching that procreation was the "almost exclusive" reason for marriage.

    Pope calls for compassionate Church open to 'imperfect' Catholics | Reuters

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    Has the pope turned Muslim or something?

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