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    Air France cabin crew angered by ruling to wear headscarves in Tehran

    A number of female Air France cabin crew staff are resisting an airline ruling that they should wear a headscarf when outside the plane in Tehran, according to a union representative.



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    • Airline to resume flights to the Iranian capital on April 17
    • Air France says the headscarf ruling is not new
    • Union claims airline will penalise cabin crew defying order

    The airline plans to resume flights to the Iranian capital on April 17.

    "Every day we have calls from worried female cabin crew who tell us that they do not want to wear the headscarf," said Christophe Pillet of the SNPNC union.

    The union is asking Air France management to make it a voluntary measure.
    Company chiefs sent out a memo informing female staff they would be required "to wear trousers during the flight with a loose fitting jacket and a scarf covering their hair on leaving the plane", Mr Pillet said.

    According to Mr Pillet, management raised he possibility of "penalties" for anyone refusing to observe the dress code.

    Air France told the AFP news agency that all air crew were "obliged like other foreign visitors to respect the laws of the countries to which they travelled".

    "Iranian law requires that a veil covering the hair be worn in public places by all women on its territory," the airline said.

    "This obligation, which does not apply during the flight, is respected by all international airlines which fly to Iran."

    Air France added that the headscarf rule when flying to certain destinations was "not new", since it had applied before flights to Tehran were stopped and also to crew flying to Saudi Arabia.

    The airline announced in December the resumption of Paris-Tehran flights after they were suspended in 2008 when Iran was hit with international sanctions over its nuclear ambitions.

    Air France cabin crew angered by ruling to wear headscarves in Tehran - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


    Cheeky coonts.

    My solution to this conundrum is to withdraw the use of any lovelies on this route. Do a Qantas on them and reserve the old dragon-ladies and fruity fudge-butlers for the teheran route.

    Post up pictures of the lovelies and make it clear what they are missing out on due to thier religious ruling.

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    Yet another French bend-over to Islam.

    What is it with that country? Is it because nearly 10% of the population there are Islamic?
    Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, all have 5 .10% Muslim populations, but France, Belgium, Germany and Sweden seem to be sabotaging their own cultures by incorporating more Islamic values.

    Holland recently reversed his decision to strip terrorists of their citizenship. Why? Where's the pressure to conform to Islamic values coming from within France?

    I hope those Air France trolley dollies stick together and refuse to bow to pre-medieval cultural values.
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    Let headscarf wearing women outside the plane in Tehran and keep the rest inside. If they must go outside, inform all the women of their legal obligations in Iran and if they get arrested for non-compliance, sack them. Make it part of their contractual obligations if it isn't already
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    There won't be a lot of support from non-Muslim cabin crew for that.

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    could they wear French berets instead why does it have to be rags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Yet another French bend-over to Islam.

    What is it with that country? Is it because nearly 10% of the population there are Islamic?
    Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, all have 5 .10% Muslim populations, but France, Belgium, Germany and Sweden seem to be sabotaging their own cultures by incorporating more Islamic values.

    Holland recently reversed his decision to strip terrorists of their citizenship. Why? Where's the pressure to conform to Islamic values coming from within France?

    I hope those Air France trolley dollies stick together and refuse to bow to pre-medieval cultural values.

    This is IRAN not France you dopey fucker.

    Like all citizens, you are expected to comply with the laws of any country you visit, or pay the penalty.

    My guess is these harlots don't want to go to Iran because it offers no opportunities for gratuitous sex and alcohol while on layovers.

    And the shopping's shit (apart from the carpets, spices and caviar).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Let headscarf wearing women outside the plane in Tehran and keep the rest inside. If they must go outside, inform all the women of their legal obligations in Iran and if they get arrested for non-compliance, sack them. Make it part of their contractual obligations if it isn't already
    Yup, agree with that.

    The European Court of Human Rights upheld France's 'Burqa ban' as, in spite of the the claim that it was "inhumane and degrading, against the right of respect for family and private life, freedom of thought, conscience and religion, freedom of speech and discriminatory", the court agreed with the French Government in that it was a law designed to help citizens "live together".

    France's burqa ban upheld by human rights court | World news | The Guardian

    As inconvenient as it may seem to those affected, a government's right to promote social cohesion has been found to be greater than an individual's right to choose what they do, or don't wear within Europe. Why wouldn't the same principle apply within Iran?

    For the record: I also think that Looper's suggestion in the OP has considerable merit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roobarb View Post
    For the record: I also think that Looper's suggestion in the OP has considerable merit...
    Totally agree, they should simply advertise in the BASSA newsletter.

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    fair few of the hosties on other airlines should be made to wear paper bags

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    fruity fudge-butlers

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    "AirFrance has agreed to allow female crew members to opt out of flying routes to Tehran after a number of staff members raised concerns about the mandatory headscarf ruling upon leaving the plane in Iran. The airline's management held a meeting with union members on 4 April to resolve the headscarf row that comes days ahead of the carrier's first flight to Tehran on 17 April 2016.

    "We're going to present them with an opt-out clause for any female employee affected on the Paris-Tehran route," said Gilles Gateau, Air France's human resources director on 4 April. "If, for personal reasons, they don't want to wear the headscarf when they leave the plane, they would be reassigned to another destination."
    Air France headscarf row: Female crew allowed to opt out of Tehran route

    Wearing the headscarf is not compulsory in Islam, it's only a cultural tradition increasingly imposed on women by misogynist male Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    it's only a cultural tradition increasingly imposed on women by misogynist male Muslims.
    And isn't it funny how misogynist male Christians and others go all women's rightsy over it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    and fruity fudge-butlers
    which does bring up another point - homosexuality is illegal in many countries , so how do these airlines manage their employees like blue who they send into those juristrictions ?

    do they just go by the slogan - don't mince , don't bitch ?

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    ^Air France dress code prohibits this while they are outside private quarters on the ground in Iran!


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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ...... - homosexuality is illegal in many countries , so how do these airlines manage their employees..... ?

    do they just go by the slogan - don't mince , don't bitch ?
    I think so.

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    Its not a big secret that employess of islamic airlines (Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.) are being treated like shit.
    (not only stuardess -Qatar World Cup 2022: FIFA ignoring migrant workers abuses, says Amnesty)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Let headscarf wearing women outside the plane in Tehran and keep the rest inside. If they must go outside, inform all the women of their legal obligations in Iran and if they get arrested for non-compliance, sack them. Make it part of their contractual obligations if it isn't already
    Spoke like the true muslim are you are, nerverna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Let headscarf wearing women outside the plane in Tehran and keep the rest inside. If they must go outside, inform all the women of their legal obligations in Iran and if they get arrested for non-compliance, sack them. Make it part of their contractual obligations if it isn't already
    Spoke like the true muslim are you are, nerverna.


    I am not a Muslim, Black Heart.

    As for the topic, I am actually surprised that Air France doesn't seem to have many female Muslim crew members. Perhaps they should recruit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Let headscarf wearing women outside the plane in Tehran and keep the rest inside. If they must go outside, inform all the women of their legal obligations in Iran and if they get arrested for non-compliance, sack them. Make it part of their contractual obligations if it isn't already
    Spoke like the true muslim are you are, nerverna.


    I am not a Muslim, Black Heart.
    You are. Not criticizing you, just making the point of your position.

    As for the topic, I am actually surprised that Air France doesn't seem to have many female Muslim crew members. Perhaps they should recruit more.
    So, do you think airline companies should hire christians or agnostics or atheists instead of muslims when they fly into European nations or Latin America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
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    Let headscarf wearing women outside the plane in Tehran and keep the rest inside. If they must go outside, inform all the women of their legal obligations in Iran and if they get arrested for non-compliance, sack them. Make it part of their contractual obligations if it isn't already
    Spoke like the true muslim are you are, nerverna.


    I am not a Muslim, Black Heart.
    You are. Not criticizing you, just making the point of your position.
    I'm not, no matter how many times you say it. Not criticizing you, but you are a retard. Just sayin', like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
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    As for the topic, I am actually surprised that Air France doesn't seem to have many female Muslim crew members. Perhaps they should recruit more.
    So, do you think airline companies should hire christians or agnostics or atheists instead of muslims when they fly into European nations or Latin America?
    I think airlines should hire staff to do the job. If they don't have enough staff willing to work a certain route, hire others who will do it.

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    Anyway, it brings to the forefront how airlines work, specifically how they assign their staff to work different routes. Has anybody here ever worked as cabin crew?

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    I once was a cook on a fishing boat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Anyway, it brings to the forefront how airlines work, specifically how they assign their staff to work different routes. Has anybody here ever worked as cabin crew?
    Generally speaking they have request systems so that people can request blocks of flights together; individual requests; and then for staff not rostered normally they can be on days off or standby, in which case they don't work but can be called up in case of illness, etc., in which case they have no idea where they might be going.

    And there's airport standby as well in case staff are taken off between sectors.

    If you are shagging the right Arab and depending on the airline, then there is the opportunity to be on "permanent standby" which means you pick up a salary but never have to fly.




    Oh, and I know BA actually have staff that are recruited and are based at particular locations so they fly to and from London rather than from and to, if you know what I mean.

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    the time to cover up in order to show respect to islam will be when islamic visitors and immigrants to the west show respect and tolerance for western culture by adapting to the host culture rather than by demanding that their hosts adapt to the ways of islam.

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    Spot on.

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