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    US Navy allow massive Ink now

    I'm from a Navy town. I've noticed over the years both military and civilian that a lot of the younger generation is getting ink. I'm talkin' full sleeve, neck, calves, and you name it.

    I think the Navy has to do this. The numbers are too big.

    SK....?




    The Navy just approved the military's best tattoo rules



    The Navy is easing its tattoo policy in a bid to recruit and retain more sailors from the millennial generation, of whom more than 1 in 3 sport body art.

    Sailors will be allowed to have neck tattoos, sleeves and even markings behind their ears under the new policy, the most lenient of any military service. Only their heads are off limits under the new policy, which the Navy's top sailor has called a reality check on the permanent art favored by sailors.

    “We just got to the point where we realized we needed to be honest with ourselves and put something in place that was going to reflect the realities of our country and the needs of our Navy,” Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (AW/NAC) Mike Stevens said in a March 30 interview. “We need to make sure that we’re not missing any opportunities to recruit and retain the best and the brightest because of our policies.”

    The new rules, announced Thursday and taking effect April 30, will allow sailors to:

    Have multiple or large tattoos below the elbow or knee, including the wrists and hands, effectively allowing sleeve tattoos that can be seen even while wearing short sleeve uniforms.

    Have one tattoo on their neck, which includes behind the ear, and it may not exceed 1 inch in length or height in either or both directions.

    Sailors with visible tattoos will now be eligible for recruiting duty or leading recruits at boot camp in Great Lakes, Illinois. These tough assignments often give sailors a leg up to make rank.

    The rules do not change the Navy’s content guidelines that apply to body art “anywhere on the body,” the policy says.


    The service reiterated these in the updated policy, banning “tattoos that are obscene, sexually explicit, and or advocate discrimination based on sex, race, religion, ethnicity, or national origin."

    “In addition, tattoos that symbolize affiliation with gangs, supremacist or extremist groups, or advocate illegal drug use are prohibited — waivers will not be given for tattoos with prohibited content,” the service said.

    The updated tattoo policy does not apply to Marines,
    even ones serving at Navy commands, according to a spokesman for Commandant of the Marine Corps Gen. Robert Neller. The Marines are easing their tattoo rules but do not allow sleeves, which would be visible with short-sleeved uniforms like PT uniforms.

    Marines' new tattoo policy will be more flexible, but won't allow sleeves

    In 2015, the Army updated its rules to allow sleeve tattoos
    , but it does not permit soldiers to have ink on their necks or hands, which would be visible in the Army Service Uniform.

    Sailors tattoos must be documented in the administrative remarks section of their service record.

    Sailors found to have tattoos with prohibited content could face disciplinary action and even involuntary discharge. It’s left up to commanding officers to decide what crosses the line. Typically, sailors are allowed to have tattoos removed or modified to eliminate any banned content before they are disciplined.

    Beyond what’s stated in the policy, don’t expect a laundry list of do's and don'ts.

    “There are just so many variables when you look at tattoo language and tattoo art that it’s just not reasonable to try and identify a set list of what is and what isn’t acceptable,” Stevens said. “This is one of those areas where we trust this senior leadership, our triads, to be able to look at something in its context, using the chain of command and having discussions amongst themselves as to whether something is appropriate or not.”

    Tattoos are popular with sailors, especially millennials.

    Tattoos are popular with sailors, especially millennials. New rules will allow more inked sailors to compete for career-enhancing jobs like recruiting duty. Here, Aviation Boatswain’s Mate (Equipment) 3rd Class James Fisher participates in a cable reweaving in the engine room of carrier Abraham Lincoln.

    Stevens said the changes came from sailors' feedback, with many complaining that their body art unfairly barred them from jobs like recruit division commanders that can help them get advanced.

    Stevens said he believes that society is more accepting of tattoos, with some estimates that as much as nearly half of the demographic the military recruits from has tattoos.

    "This isn’t official, but in my research, I saw estimates that the percentage of people with tattoos in the 18 to 25 age group as being between 37 and 40 percent," he said. That's not an insignificant number."



    That age group encompasses the majority of sailors in the fleet
    , Stevens said, and made the Navy's leadership realize a policy change was needed from the tougher rules enacted 13 years ago.

    "It’s a tough recruiting environment out there already and when you start putting up barriers that don’t have any true rationale behind them, you create problems for yourself into the future," he said. "We’ve met [recruiting] goal for 105 straight months and our recruiting is strong, but you never want to get behind."

    MCPON, who is wrapping up a 33-year career that is longer than most millennials' lives, would “neither confirm nor deny” when asked whether he has any tattoos.

    Senior reporter Jeff Schogol contributed to this report.

    http://www.navytimes.com/story/milit...ules/82425974/
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    The best and brightest still don't do anything as stupid as permanently disfiguring their bodies.

    Leave the important and responsible decisions to those who have shown more sense.

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    A few tatts are Ok but these young people sporting tatts covering their necks may be in for a shock when they get a tad older.

    The Tatts on the beautiful young girls must freak mum and Dad out.

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    If people want Tatts to each their own, and yes a lot of lovely ladies have lots of tats.

    To me now today, it seems tats are for followers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    The best and brightest still don't do anything as stupid as permanently disfiguring their bodies.

    Leave the important and responsible decisions to those who have shown more sense.
    Agreed.

    Nothing uglier than patchy faded tats on ageing saggy skin, which is inevitable.

    And no, I don't like looking at attention seeking "I'm so cool" skin picture show, fwkn boring.

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    They're sailors! Of course they should have tats. Just how miserable and sanitised a world has it become that sailors having visible tats is even an issue? Next thing you know they'll make it illegal for gentlemen to bugger strapping young stokers!

    Read a newspaper /magazine article recently about how a lot of tattoo artists are pissed with the sudden prominence of tats in regular society, removing the outsider ambience and making them just another form of cosmetic. I'll see if I can find it online.

    While we're on the subject, here's a rather nice photo of King Frederick IX of Denmark.
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    What a great idea for a thread.

    Post your tattoo!

    I'll start..


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    "Look son, we want you to bully and maim without thought or question. As the invaders, we will crush this made-up threat by carpet-bombing and thus killing, maiming and ruining the inhabitants lives for decades. We will destroy countries and leave the fallout for the rest of world to deal with"

    "Oh hang on, is that a tattoo? Sorry son, that's immoral, you can't come with us on our moral crusade"

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

    And after that, you can go down the pub.

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    Yes, restrictions on navy recruits tats always seemed odd in the extreme but then it is merca we're talking about.

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    There's a definite advantage in allowing troops in combat to have tattoos.

    In the past, identifying the dead was once limited to dog-tags, one around the neck,one in the soldier's boot, as the booted foot often was all the intact remains in one piece, so identifiable.

    A tattoo along the inside of the foot is a great ID.

    There was a case in NZ about 30 yrs ago of a guy trying to blow up the Wanganui computer, blew himself to smithereens,..he was identified through bits of his tattooed skin.

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    Quite how anyone might confuse 'the brightest and best' with a moron who mutilates his neck and hands defeats me.

    The country is becoming trashier by the day. Trump is perhaps the right Fuhrer for them after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Quite how anyone might confuse 'the brightest and best' with a moron who mutilates his neck and hands defeats me.

    The country is becoming trashier by the day. Trump is perhaps the right Fuhrer for them after all.
    oh come on. Are you trying to tell us you haven’t been round the horn with a tattooed matelot from Greek Street? You're not fooling anybody here. We know your type, even if the communists did make it legal it doesn't mean decent people find it acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    There's a definite advantage in allowing troops in combat to have tattoos.

    In the past, identifying the dead was once limited to dog-tags, one around the neck,one in the soldier's boot, as the booted foot often was all the intact remains in one piece, so identifiable.

    A tattoo along the inside of the foot is a great ID.
    *Considering.*

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    The best ink work i have seen was on the back of a Royal Marine in Bangkok a few years ago.
    Had all his back done should have taken a photo had it done in Thailand quality art work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart
    massive Ink
    giant squid ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Quite how anyone might confuse 'the brightest and best' with a moron who mutilates his neck and hands defeats me.

    The country is becoming trashier by the day. Trump is perhaps the right Fuhrer for them after all.
    Where did this 'brightest and best' thing come from?

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    I had one done on my back, never again
    the lady looked like a pro , but....


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