Soccer star Adam Johnson found guilty on 1 count of child sex

**Looper** · 11-03-2016, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by billy the kid

At 15/16 i was looking for older girls and at his age i was a million miles from even thinking of 15 yr olds. Fooked up he is.

So you are saying that at 15 years of age you were not sexually interested in the 15 year old girls who surrounded you at school?

I think you are the one who is fooked up.

Or more likely talking porkies for reasons best known to yourself.

Why would someone even make up such far-fetched claim?

Girls generally reach sexual maturity earlier than boys so they would likely have been ahead of you on the development curve.

**AntRobertson** · 11-03-2016, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Frankly, the outrage is somewhat exaggerated and bordering on the hysterical. In my day at school just about every girl aged 15 had all been fingered and fondled to some extent except for the mooses and swottie botties. Given some of the precocious little minxes about these days it's a wonder not more are out there luring chaps to their doom.

indeed, given that she initially chased him and was a more than willing participant in the sex.

she only complained when he moved on.

it is a disgrace that he will probably serve more time than the toerags who robbed the hatton garden safety vaults.

You chaps need to get some perspective: it's a 28 year old man and a 15 year old girl we are talking about here.

A grown man and a child.

Originally Posted by taxexile

it should be noted that the age of consent is 14 in most of northern europe.

So what, it's 16 in the UK.

**blue** · 11-03-2016, 11:00 AM

A 16 and 17 year old are still classed as children in the UK, but can legally have sex, not very clear situation is it,

**AntRobertson** · 11-03-2016, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by blue

A 16 and 17 year old are still classed as children in the UK, but can legally have sex, not very clear situation is it,

You're confusing age of consent with age of majority. Not the same thing.

Besides, it's pretty fucking clear that a 28 year old man shouldn't be involved sexually with a 15 year old girl under any circumstances.

Frankly it's also pretty fucking creepy that some on here seem to be trying to justify it.

**taxexile** · 11-03-2016, 11:20 AM

she was 15 going on 20, she was no virgin and he was an idiot.

but it doesnt make him a child molesting drooling paedo who needs to be incarcerated for the safety of innocent children.

**BaitongBoy** · 11-03-2016, 11:20 AM

It's pretty fucking creepy that the pismire is allowed to roam free once more...

Although he's a much better pest, 'tis true...

Onya, Ant...Heh...

**Looper** · 11-03-2016, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Frankly it's also pretty fucking creepy that some on here seem to be trying to justify it.

I am not defending this guy. He has committed a crime both legally and socially and deserves to be punished.

However I don't think the crime he has committed is legally or socially on a par with fiddling with younger pre-pubescent kids.

The age of consent in the UK is 16. That is an arbitrary age limit which we set and men have to know and abide by the law. On her 16th birthday the law will not bat and eyelid. The day before he has committed a crime. But what kind of crime is that?

I would say the crime of consensual sex with a 15 year-old (who is sexually mature, understands what sex is and is able to give or deny consent in a meaningful sense) is less of a crime than sexually assaulting a pre-pubescent child.

I think the law should make a more obvious distinction between these 2 acts. Of course that would involve another arbitrary legal line in the sand but I think it is a distinction worth making.

The hysteria that surrounds any discussion at all of under-age sex does not contribute to a mature treatment of the problem.

**BaitongBoy** · 11-03-2016, 11:29 AM

^ The pismire can't fathom that missive...Or the sense behind it...

**AntRobertson** · 11-03-2016, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

she was 15 going on 20

What a bizarre comment.

How could you possibly know that. Is every 15 year old girl by default a 'slut', 'hussy', 'tramp' or whatever in your view unless or until they prove their purity and innocence, tax?

Or is it just this particular instance where somehow a young girl in over her head and besotted with a sports star suddenly transforms into a wily seductress that a grown man couldn't possibly resist.

In either case way to victim blame.

**taxexile** · 11-03-2016, 11:45 AM

by all accounts she was a precocious teenager, she was happy to see him and enjoy intimacy with him. she was 15 going on 20.

as i said, it doesnt make him a drooling paedo any more than it makes her a slut.

it just makes him a stupid star who abused his fame and her a silly naive girl.

both will be a lot wiser after this.

**AntRobertson** · 11-03-2016, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

by all accounts she was a precocious teenager

What accounts?

Originally Posted by taxexile

she was 15 going on 20.

She was a child.

**Seekingasylum** · 11-03-2016, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by blue

A 16 and 17 year old are still classed as children in the UK, but can legally have sex, not very clear situation is it,

You're confusing age of consent with age of majority. Not the same thing.

Besides, it's pretty fucking clear that a 28 year old man shouldn't be involved sexually with a 15 year old girl under any circumstances.

Frankly it's also pretty fucking creepy that some on here seem to be trying to justify it.

Oh, don't be so priggish.

David took several wives and most were eligible after their puberty - fit enough to bleed and to carry two pails of water sort of thing.

Holland had 13 as the age of consent until relatively recently and most rural untermensch of Europe have been shagging their young nieces and cousins for years and still do.

Your absurd social affectations are precisely that and coming from a NZ background its a bit bloody rich you can pretend outrage - it's practically compulsory on the South Island.

**Seekingasylum** · 11-03-2016, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by taxexile

by all accounts she was a precocious teenager

What accounts?

Originally Posted by taxexile

she was 15 going on 20.

She was a child.

Err, no, she was a woman in most societies biologically speaking.

**billy the kid** · 11-03-2016, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Looper

So you are saying that at 15 years of age you were not sexually interested in the 15 year old girls who surrounded you at school?

Did i say that ? I went with girls my own age before i hit 16. Know all about the knee-trembles,

After that age i was aware of the legal limit. Preferred girls a bit older if they were interested.
15 yr olds are for 15 yr olds.

I'm now counting backward.

**billy the kid** · 11-03-2016, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Err, no, she was a woman in most societies.

Think the church of england made the rules. maybe not to offend God. Or that it was morally right that girls should wait.
Yea she can get pregnant at 11, 12, 13 but that still doesn't make her a woman.
Back in the day a lot of girls wanted a baby so that they could get a house and leave the family. A rat trap waiting to happen.

Certainly not a risk that i'd want to take and i'm thankful that i never ended up in such a situation.
Get a girl pregnant where i came from and you were trapped with a hugh responsibility.
Knew a girl who swore i was the father of her soon to be born baby and i never even touched her. unreal.
they're all kids until at least 19. though they speak all grown up and know all. wtf.

Jees Johnson didn't even have her and he's destroyed. over touching ffs.

**blue** · 24-03-2016, 07:26 PM

Adams up in court today

Adam Johnson's sister posts picture of shamed footballer with baby daughter on last night before he is jailed - Mirror Online

Adam Johnson has paid a final farewell to his 14-month-old daughter Ayla Sofia, this pictured was posted by his sister last night has said an emotional farewell to his baby girl as he is set to be jailed today.

what a society were a baby gets pixelated like that ...

**Kurgen** · 24-03-2016, 10:46 PM

Footballer Adam Johnson Jailed For Six Years

Footballer Adam Johnson has been sentenced to six years in prison for engaging in sexual activity with a 15-year-old fan.

The former England international showed no emotion as he was sentenced at Bradford Crown Court, and sat with his head bowed after the judge finished speaking.

As he was led to the cells, Johnson refused to look at his family.

The 28-year-old, who played for Premier League clubs Sunderland and Manchester City, was found guilty of sexual activity with the teenager following an incident in his Range Rover in County Durham in 2015 in which he kissed and sexually touched her.

Johnson, who intends to appeal, also admitted another charge of sexual activity with a child and grooming the girl.

The winger, who was told his victim has suffered "severe psychological harm", stood with his hands behind his back as Judge Jonathan Rose passed sentence.

The judge said Johnson had taken advantage of a "young teenager's adoration of a successful celebrity".

The judge said the girl had been a Sunderland fan who would wait after matches to take pictures of her "favourite player".

He added it had been Johnson's intention to engage in sexual activity with the girl, knowing she was under 16.

He told the court the winger had exchanged more than 800 messages with her, which had largely been innocent.

But Judge Rose added: "You continued in your grooming of this girl even after you were engaged in sexual activity with her.

"You wanted no one to know that you and she were exchanging messages.

"You asked her to find a place to meet that was private and secluded so no one would see you in her company."

The judge said Johnson had made a "deliberate decision" to engage in sexual activity with the girl, "no doubt with the expectation that you would get away with it".

The footballer's initial decision not to plead guilty meant the victim was subjected to a year of being called a liar, including by fans at matches, the court heard.

Judge Rose said: "She speaks of entering many dark places in that year and said she had suffered bullying and stress and had underachieved at school as a result of the case."

She had suffered sadness, anger and confusion which had been "exasperated" because of Johnson's status and standing, he added.

Johnson has been stripped of 12 England caps and has had to sign the sex offenders register in light of his conviction.

A restraining order banning him from contacting the victim has also been imposed.

Detective Inspector Aelfwynn Sampson, of Durham Constabulary, said the "carefully considered and significant sentence" sent out a "clear message".

She said: "This case demonstrates that victims of these crimes will be taken seriously and perpetrators will be dealt with robustly."

An NSPCC spokesperson said Johnson's "horrifying and inexcusable" conduct was exacerbated by his not guilty plea "which forced his victim to suffer the harrowing experience of giving evidence".

"But this was not only about one rogue player," they said.

"It was also about a club that seemingly did not have child protection priorities embedded in its culture.

"It was worrying that child safeguarding took second place to getting results on the pitch.

"That can never be allowed to happen again at any club."

Footballer Adam Johnson Jailed For Six Years

Compared to Rolf Harris and Co, a 6 is a bit harsh IMO.

**Cujo** · 24-03-2016, 11:20 PM

6 years is a bit fucking harsh.
If it were a boy and he were a priest he would've just got moved to another team.

**Looper** · 25-03-2016, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by Cujo

6 years is a bit fucking harsh.

Yes, 6 years is a bit harsh for sexually mature underage consensual sexual activity.

I guess maybe a front page football star gets an exemplary sentence.

Originally Posted by blue

what a society were a baby gets pixelated like that ...

What a moronic decision to use that photo and pixellate the baby

What is The Mirror trying to imply by association?

...maybe:-

1. This is a story about criminal under-age consensual sex.

2. Sexually mature under-age consensual sex has the same criminal charge as paedophilic sexual assault

3. Nasty paedophiles use the internet so lets pixellate babies' faces

4. Lets sensationalise the story further by using a photo of him with his baby and then pixellate the baby for paedophiles thus re-iterating the legal blurring of lines between child rape and sexually mature under-age consensual sex.

**Bettyboo** · 25-03-2016, 12:28 AM

^ indeed - that behaviour that you highlighted is more damaging to society than what this idiotic footballer did.

He was wrong and stupid, but he did not do anything worth a jail sentence as a first offence, imho. Fuk'd up society.

Two year suspended, 100 hours a year community service would have been about right, and maybe a payment of 50,000 pounds to the young lady as damages.

**Looper** · 25-03-2016, 12:46 AM

For my sentencing recommendations I would still go with a custodial sentence. 1 year out in 6 months.

Sleazing onto underage girls as a 28-year-old is not only criminal but also sleazy and creepy.

However, engaging sexually with pre-pubescent children who do not know what sex is is a whole different ballpark of creepiness and reprobation and the 2 things deserve formal legal disassociation.

**Bettyboo** · 25-03-2016, 12:52 AM

^ I would accept that as a top end of within a reasonable scope. But, six years is crazy.

Look at society, look at the crimes and sentences... Insane and inconsistent and politically driven - there is very little real justice in the UK, imho.

**blue** · 25-03-2016, 01:24 AM

Another thing i don't like about UK-
police commenting about sentences ...

What an earth has it got to do with them ?
I say they are there to enforce the law nothing more .

Detective Inspector Aelfwynn Sampson, of Durham Constabulary, said:
“This is a carefully considered and significant sentence which sends out a clear message.
“Fame, celebrity and a position of power does not give you the right to break the law in pursuit of whatever you desire.
“Members of the public are clearly entitled to express their opinions but the law remains clear and Adam Johnson broke it.

Durham Police's DC Kimberley Walton (left) and Detective Inspector Aelfwynn Sampson outside Bradford Crown Court

Adam Johnson sentence: Durham Police welcome former Sunderland star's jail term - Chronicle Live

**Looper** · 25-03-2016, 01:28 AM

^Where can you get one of those police umbrellas?

I fancy one of them.

**blue** · 25-03-2016, 01:34 AM

^
not off her, she won't even share it properly with her boss

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