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    Russian PM: West has Re-Started Cold War

    Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has accused the West of restarting the Cold War, speaking at a security conference in Germany where Ukraine is high on the agenda.

    Medvedev told delegates Saturday that "NATO's policies related to Russia remain unfriendly and opaque. One could even go so far as to say we have slid back to a new Cold War."

    His words echoed a similar assessment by Russian President Vladimir Putin at the same Munich Security Conference in 2007. But Medvedev said the situation has worsened since then. He said Saturday "the picture is more grim; the developments since 2007 have been worse than anticipated."

    Increasing tensions

    Tensions between Russia and NATO countries have been increasing over Russia's annexation of the Crimean peninsula in Ukraine, and backing the Syrian government in that country's civil war.

    German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier on Saturday said Moscow and Kyiv, the major players in the dispute over Ukraine's Crimean peninsula, must move forward on implementing the peace deal worked out in Minsk last year. He said "not talking to each other in times of crisis can't be the answer," and said in a written statement the parties are "a fair way" away from implementing the deal.

    Lavrov concerned about NATO's plans

    On Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov met with the head of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg, on the sidelines of the security conference after the Western military alliance and the United States announced plans for the biggest military buildup in Europe since the Cold War.

    Russia's TASS state news agency said Lavrov expressed concern about the Western military alliance's plans to strengthen its presence on Russia's borders.

    Earlier Friday, Russian news agencies said Lavrov and Stoltenberg discussed holding a meeting of the Russia-NATO Council, but agreed that the agenda for the meeting still needs to be worked out.

    NATO said on its website Friday that Stoltenberg and Lavrov "reviewed NATO-Russia relations and agreed to continue exploring the possibility of a NATO-Russia Council meeting."

    The United States is to quadruple military spending in Europe to $3.4 billion in 2017 as NATO increases troops on rotation and training, stockpiles military hardware and arms, and forms a rapid reaction force.

    Russia has called NATO's moves a threat to stability in Europe. The military alliance says the news plans are aimed at reassuring eastern European allies concerned about Russian aggression.

    http://www.voanews.com/content/russi...r/3189537.html

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    He blames NATO - not "The West".

    NATO is the US, not "The West"

    Huge fucking difference right there.

    John the turd McCain just said this,

    A pivotal part of Russia’s strategy was “to exacerbate the refugee crisis and use it as a weapon to divide the transatlantic alliance and undermine the European project”, US Senator John McCain said in a speech at an annual security conference in Munich on Sunday.

    Russia accused of ?weaponising? Syria refugees - FT.com

    What he's accusing Russia of doing sounds suspiciously like what the US is doing - via the corrupt EU

    Interesting choice of words "European Project"

    Who's "European Project" might that be then John?

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    Yes, no doubt that Putin's attempts to reform the USSR and remilitarise it is all "the West's" fault.


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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    Russia's TASS state news agency said Lavrov expressed concern about the Western military alliance's plans to strengthen its presence on Russia's borders.
    I wonder what prompted NATO to strengthen its presence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Yes, no doubt that Putin's attempts to reform the USSR and remilitarise it is all "the West's" fault.

    There is no USSR to reform......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    There is no USSR to reform......
    What part of reform do you not understand? Hint, he tries to form the USSR again by using military force to get former republics back in. NATO is indeed in the way of that by responding to calls for help of former republics that don't want to be drawn back.

    If you still don't understand, use reestablish instead of reform.
    "don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence"

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    No he has a point; you interpreted it correctly, but reestablish probably would have been a better word.

    Mea culpa

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    The continuous search for invented enemies.

    Former or new.

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    NATO is a yank puppet run by fascist fucks like John McCain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    There is no USSR to reform......
    What part of reform do you not understand? Hint, he tries to form the USSR again by using military force to get former republics back in. NATO is indeed in the way of that by responding to calls for help of former republics that don't want to be drawn back.

    If you still don't understand, use reestablish instead of reform.
    There is no USSR, gone finito! Comprehende? You said it yourseef in the word former there is a FEDERATION of Russian republics or don't you understand plain English? Kindly get your facts right before opening your mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post

    There is no USSR, gone finito! Comprehende? You said it yourseef in the word former there is a FEDERATION of Russian republics or don't you understand plain English? Kindly get your facts right before opening your mouth.
    I highlighted it for you ! Maybe now Comprehende ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    Hint, he tries to form the USSR again by using military force to get former republics back in.

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    They do seem to be well on their way to reinventing the former USSR. Crushing dissent with military hardware in parts of Ukraine. The arbitrary decision making process is redolent of their attitude immediately after the second world war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    NATO increases troops on rotation and training, stockpiles military hardware and arms, and forms a rapid reaction force.
    When will NATO disband it's newly formed "Rapid Reaction Forces" (RRF) and create the:

    PrE.FART.WACTOP.PII, (Pre-positioned Exceptionally, Fast Army in Readiness To, WAge Continuous Terrorism Probably. Plus II)

    and it's civilian equivalent:

    PrE.FUCT.WE.ARE

    (Pre-positioned Exceptionally.Fast Urban Civilian Task.Weapons Enabled . Armed Response Executive)
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    NATO increases troops on rotation and training, stockpiles military hardware and arms, and forms a rapid reaction force.
    When will NATO disband it's newly formed "Rapid Reaction Forces" (RRF) and create the:

    PrE.FART.WACTOP.PII, (Pre-positioned Exceptionally, Fast Army in Readiness To, WAge Continuous Terrorism Probably. Plus II)

    and it's civilian equivalent:

    PrE.FUCT.WE.ARE

    (Pre-positioned Exceptionally.Fast Urban Civilian Task.Weapons Enabled . Armed Response Executive)

    What on earth are you babbling on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    The arbitrary decision making process is redolent of their attitude immediately after the second world war.
    Even with the help of thesaurus you still manage to talk total bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    The arbitrary decision making process is redolent of their attitude immediately after the second world war.
    Even with the help of thesaurus you still manage to talk total bollocks.
    Translation: Neo doesn't understand the long words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    NATO increases troops on rotation and training, stockpiles military hardware and arms, and forms a rapid reaction force.
    When will NATO disband it's newly formed "Rapid Reaction Forces" (RRF) and create the:

    PrE.FART.WACTOP.PII, (Pre-positioned Exceptionally, Fast Army in Readiness To, WAge Continuous Terrorism Probably. Plus II)

    and it's civilian equivalent:

    PrE.FUCT.WE.ARE

    (Pre-positioned Exceptionally.Fast Urban Civilian Task.Weapons Enabled . Armed Response Executive)

    What on earth are you babbling on about?
    Its the meth talking. Once his pension moneys run out it will back to his normal bollocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Even with the help of thesaurus you still manage to talk total bollocks
    Only when simple folk are trying to understand things that are clearly beyond their means. You have a nice day now in your Hertfordshire hovel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    You have a nice day now in your Hertfordshire hovel.
    Wrong on both counts, but you have a nice day in paradise Chas

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    The arbitrary decision making process is redolent of their attitude immediately after the second world war.
    Even with the help of thesaurus you still manage to talk total bollocks.
    Translation: Neo doesn't understand the long words.
    Flowery words can't mask a tenuous grasp of events. You should know Harry

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    What on earth are you babbling on about?
    If the crusader coalition can rename terrorist groups, to suit their agenda, I can rename NATO to suit mine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    What on earth are you babbling on about?
    If the crusader coalition can rename terrorist groups, to suit their agenda, I can rename NATO to suit mine.

    You can name anything whatever you like, you still look like a gibbering idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    What on earth are you babbling on about?
    If the crusader coalition can rename terrorist groups, to suit their agenda, I can rename NATO to suit mine.


    me too...

    N A T O = Not Able To Operate

    Planes that can't fly at night, guns that can't shoot straight, the list is long.
    No wonder they have a hard time finding volunteers (not talking about the U.S. forces this time).

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    ^^That's not really a picture of me harry

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