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    Sweden is Preparing to Deport up to 80,000 Refugee Seekers

    STOCKHOLM – Sweden’s Interior Minister Anders Ygeman said in an interview with business daily Dagens Industri on Thursday that the country is preparing to deport up to 80,000 of last year’s record number of asylum seekers.

    The announcement comes after a teenage refugee was arrested on suspicion of murdering a female employee at a youth refugee centers in Molndal, near Gothenburg, earlier this week.

    A motive for the stabbing attack was not clear, but her death has led to questions about overcrowded conditions in some centers, with too few adults and employees to look after children.

    A small town in southern Sweden reported that around 1,000 children who arrived there this year as refugees have gone missing from a temporary settlement, according to local authorities. The unaccompanied minors who left the town of Trelleborg are some of the thousands that came to Europe to escape the conflict that pervades the Middle East and the horrors of the Islamic State group, also known as ISIS or ISIL.
    Despite receiving temporary accommodations, at least half of the 1,900 unaccompanied minors who arrived in Trelleborg left without notifying officials. “We don’t know where they are. … We don’t have the possibility to stop them leaving. We can’t wait by their beds day and night,” Agneta Sjölund, director of Trelleborg Municipality

    Most of the refugees initially arrived at the town in southern Sweden on ferries from Germany and were promptly registered in the town. However, their paperwork had not yet been processed by the country’s Migration Agency, making it more difficult to track them.

    Ygeman said he estimated about 60,000 to 80,000 of the 163,000 people who sought asylum last year would be expelled and either leave voluntarily or be forcibly deported.

    The government fears many of those will go into hiding, Dagens Industri reported, and police are increasing their work to find and expel those.

    “We have a big challenge ahead of us. We will need to use more resources for this and we must have better cooperation between authorities,” Ygeman was quoted as saying.

    Germany and Sweden were the top destinations for asylum-seekers in Europe last year, with Sweden receiving one of the highest amounts of refugees per capita in the European Union.

    Asylum-seekers whose applications are rejected are normally taken out of Sweden using commercial flights. But because of the large number being rejected they would use specially chartered aircraft to take them out of the country, Ygeman said.

    This week, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven promised more resources for police to deal with the increased workload because of the refugee situation.

    Sweden reversed its open doors-policy on immigration late last year and has introduced border controls and identification checks to stem the flow of asylum seekers.

    Meanwhile, neighboring Denmark voted in favour of seizing the assets of asylum seekers to help pay for their stay while their claims are processed.

    Valuables worth more than 10,000 kroner ($1,500) will be seized by police as migrants enter the country to help cover their housing and food costs.

    It is part of a package of immigration reforms designed to make Denmark less appealing for asylum-seekers. However, some have likened it to the Nazis confiscating gold and other valuables from Jews during the Holocaust.

    The Danish government says it’s simply applying the same rules to refugees as to Danes who receive social benefits.

    By Daniel Dickson – Reuters

    Sweden is Preparing to Deport up to 80,000 Refugee Seekers | Chiang Rai Times English Language Newspaper

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    I've really enjoyed watching the EU liberal clowns make asses of themselves over this crisis, but the human suffering of the legitimate refugees mixed in with the criminals and terrorists is sad.

    Taking a group of 80,000 people and citing one murder done by one teenager is absurdity.

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    ^

    Oh well,

    No one can expect them to accept the ridiculous amount of refugees, so whatever.

    The only mistake they have made is letting them flood in in the first place.

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    Send them to Australia and put them to work building mosques in Alice springs.

    It's the only rational solution.

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    Good luck rounding 'em up....idiots.

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    ^ ^

    It's funny you say that.

    There is a shit load of space in Australia's out back. The Abo's survive out there.

    Thing is,

    The Refo scum don't want to be out there, they expect to walk in and set up shop on the beach.

    Na, fuk everyone of them off.
    Stroller is a Yerman faggot.

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    How do you deport 80,000 people...in containers ?
    Where will Sweden have them deported them to ?

    Something isn't well thought out with this plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee View Post
    How do you deport 80,000 people...in containers ?
    Where will Sweden have them deported them to ?
    In charter flights as they said.
    Also it has been reported that many of them have come from countries from which they have no need to escape. They are simply trying their luck so I expect those will be sent back to their home country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    Where will Sweden have them deported them to ?
    Their country of origin.

    Durr!

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    Don't these people destroy their passports on arrival in the land of 'Milk & Honey'?

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    250 charter flights to exactly where...as most have left their countries of birth, actual passport or counterfeit identification.

    First they have to locate , investigate, document and secure the 80,000.
    They have a huge issue that they want to deal with arse backward.
    Once a person is in ones country a whole other issue to deport them. Possibly where they want to ship them is no longer interested in taking them back.
    Right-o chap, easy peasy. Don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee View Post
    First they have to locate , investigate, document and secure the 80,000.
    I'd say securing them comes before documenting them but apart from that yes, you are correct.

    It'll be a big job for sure.

    It's called 'police work'.

    And the ones that are located will be sent back to where they came from. Why is that unclear to you?

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    Seems like a mammoth task. Why not send them to Saudi or another Islamic country? It seems like it would be better for all involved. Rounding them up is going to be like herding cats.

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    A politician said, well that means, it's cast in stone, NOT.
    These guys will say anything to save their own arses, they want to deport some now, empty the prisons, round up foreign sex offenders, drug dealers and the rest of the scum, not going to happen.

    Placate the population with words and hope the problem leaves the front page later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee View Post
    250 charter flights to exactly where...as most have left their countries of birth, actual passport or counterfeit identification.

    First they have to locate , investigate, document and secure the 80,000.
    They have a huge issue that they want to deal with arse backward.
    Once a person is in ones country a whole other issue to deport them. Possibly where they want to ship them is no longer interested in taking them back.
    Right-o chap, easy peasy. Don't think so.
    No one said it was going to be easy but at least they're thinking in the right direction.

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    The fact is it never needed to come to this. Sweden's borders are easily closed. Almost all of these migrants come across the Oresund bridge into Malmo. Institute border controls on that bridge immigration problems solved.
    Last edited by bsnub; 29-01-2016 at 12:46 PM.

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    Thing is, they're not going to stay put once Sweden boots them out, are they? Also, they have been given warning so I would not be surprised is they headed elsewhere in Europe. No doubt they will be forced upon the British people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    Where will Sweden have them deported them to ?
    Their country of origin.

    Durr!
    Clearly you know nothing of the phenomenon.

    These people are mostly economic migrants seeking betterment in the guise of asylum seekers submitting applications under the UN Convention 1951 and its protocols. Most of them will be refused on formulaic grounds because they palpably do not have a well founded fear of persecution in their countries of origin i.e those from West and Central Africa, the sub-continent and many other third world shitholes. However, under the protocols they also have a right to appeal against an adverse decision and many do, lengthening an already complex process.
    Assuming their appeals are dismissed and they are ready for removal there remains the question of documentation. Many, if not all, will have produced forged or counterfeit passports and identity cards or, in probably a significant proportion of cases, will have simply destroyed their original documents with which they left their country of origin.
    Removing these people, who may be provided with a travel document by the "removing" country, is often thwarted by the destination country which will refuse to accept them on the grounds they do not have a document satisfactorily establishing their nationality and identity. When asked to provide such documentation these countries simply decline to do so.
    Politicians often tub-thump to garner support from their electorate but the truth of the matter is that once "in" these fuckers are almost impossible to remove in any significant numbers.
    Human trafficking is big business and the abuse of the UN Convention 1951 has made it a growth industry. The Turks transporting and conveying folk to Greece, and the gangs operating in Libya have made millions.
    The only solution is to close the frontier border around Europe and to blockade the sea routes from Libya and Turkey. Strafing and sinking the migrant boats and dinghies may seem harsh but once the "market" understands those routes are no longer profitable they will cease to operate.
    Problem is, the West is weak and cannot bear to do it.
    Still, taking the long term view, Europe's population is declining and ageing in its current demographic cycle and we shall need more labour to do the work no one else wants so perhaps the best solution is simply to do nothing and let human nature take its course.

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    I cannot believe that Sweeden as a member of the EU is allowed to do this .

    However kudos on them for shipping the unwanted shit out

    Unlike the UK's Camerclown who will just pander to the PC brigade to keep the economic migrants ( sorry refugees ) in whilst doing all he can to deny and deport as many non EU wife applications of people married to UK men who are working and paying tax , mostly looking after the UK's elderly on the min wage , jobs the UK people dont want .

    This is how fuked up this Country has been allowed to become , I have 2 mates now that want to return to the UK with their Thai wives , and hell is gonna freeze over before that happens , yet they are sending planes out to import muzzies into our Country ,, you couldnt make it up !
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    All economic invaders without documentation and full of bullshit stories should be deported to the Congo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    I cannot believe that Sweeden as a member of the EU is allowed to do this .
    Most EU countries are signatories to the Dublin Agreement (formerly the Dublin Convention) which, inter alia, states that the member state which either first admits an entrant or processes them by identification through fingerprinting will be the member state responsible for any asylum application and removal if the application fails - an asylum seeker cannot "orbit" member states to gain asylum if they are refused their application but must be returned to the member state which is originally responsible.

    Essentially, Greece and Italy are the member states responsible for most of the recent influx from the Middle East and North Africa. However, they have signally failed to process many of those arrivals but have merely facilitated their journeys onward to either Calais, Scandinavia or Germany. However, some neighbouring countries, through which these migrants transited on their way to their chosen destination, did indeed process many and therefore they will be the responsible state.

    It's a real mess and Germany is the culprit here with that daft woman Merkel announcing to the world she will accept all refugees who want to go there.

    Unfuckingbelievable , really, but I suppose that's the East German, commie angst over her collective guilt in slaughtering so many Jews, Russians, Poles, etc, coming out.

    I actually think Merkel is having a breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    I cannot believe that Sweeden as a member of the EU is allowed to do this .
    Most EU countries are signatories to the Dublin Agreement (formerly the Dublin Convention) which, inter alia, states that the member state which either first admits an entrant or processes them by identification through fingerprinting will be the member state responsible for any asylum application and removal if the application fails - an asylum seeker cannot "orbit" member states to gain asylum if they are refused their application but must be returned to the member state which is originally responsible.

    Essentially, Greece and Italy are the member states responsible for most of the recent influx from the Middle East and North Africa. However, they have signally failed to process many of those arrivals but have merely facilitated their journeys onward to either Calais, Scandinavia or Germany. However, some neighbouring countries, through which these migrants transited on their way to their chosen destination, did indeed process many and therefore they will be the responsible state.

    It's a real mess and Germany is the culprit here with that daft woman Merkel announcing to the world she will accept all refugees who want to go there.

    Unfuckingbelievable , really, but I suppose that's the East German, commie angst over her collective guilt in slaughtering so many Jews, Russians, Poles, etc, coming out.

    I actually think Merkel is having a breakdown.
    Merkel has rounded up the collective guilt by inviting almost a million anti-Semites .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    I actually think Merkel is having a breakdown.
    Having been through one myself it is something I would never wish upon anyone. But I exempt Merkel from that wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    I cannot believe that Sweeden as a member of the EU is allowed to do this .
    Why on earth not? They plan to send back failed asylum seekers. Nothing wrong with that at all, and not against EU rules. But as others have said, it won't be easy, and the Swedes know that.

    Mikael Ribbenvik, head of operations at the Swedish Migration Agency, told the BBC that assessing all the asylum applications would be "an enormous feat to accomplish" and would require more resources from the government.

    "A lot of people leave voluntarily and a lot of people abscond. And then we have a few people that are staying on that are impossible to remove because of identification purposes," he said.
    EU migrant crisis: Sweden may reject 80,000 asylum claims - BBC News
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    The only solution is to close the frontier border around Europe and to blockade the sea routes from Libya and Turkey. Strafing and sinking the migrant boats and dinghies may seem harsh but once the "market" understands those routes are no longer profitable they will cease to operate.
    Problem is, the West is weak and cannot bear to do it.
    Nail on the head.

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