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    10 U.S. sailors in Iranian custody

    Ten American sailors are in Iranian custody after two small U.S. naval craft apparently briefly entered Iranian territorial waters, a U.S. senior defense official said Tuesday.

    The official, however, expects the situation to be resolved quickly. A senior administration official said there is nothing to indicate this was anything hostile on the part of any entity in Iran, adding that the U.S. has received high-level assurances that they will be released promptly.

    White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told CNN's Jake Tapper that President Barack Obama will be in touch with members of Congress about the incident.

    "Certainly, everybody should be aware of the fact we have been in touch with the Iranians and they have assured us that our sailors are safe and that they'll be allowed to continue their journey promptly," Earnest said.

    A U.S. official said the sailors may be spending the night in Iran, and it's not expected that they would depart until after daylight.

    A senior administration official told CNN that the U.S. lost contact with the two ships, which were en route from Kuwait to Bahrain.

    "We subsequently have been in communication with Iranian authorities, who have informed us of the safety and well-being of our personnel," the senior administration official said. "We have received assurances the sailors will promptly be allowed to continue their journey."

    The U.S. is uncertain whether the vessels, which were sailing near Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf, intentionally entered Iranian waters, and the senior defense official said no distress call was made by the ships.

    A U.S. official said that it is believed that the sailors were still pierside as of late Tuesday afternoon. Farsi Island is an area where the Iranian Revolutionary Guard -- which the semi-official Fars News agency said detained the service members -- tends to operate, and they are much more aggressive than the Iranian Navy.

    The official added that it is possible that one of the boats lost propulsion and drifted into Iranian waters.

    The Fars News agency also reported that the American boats were equipped with three, 50-caliber machine guns. The boats crossed a little more than a mile into Iranian-patrolled waters, reports Fars, which cited information recorded on the GPS device of the American vessels and now in the hands of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

    Fars also reported that the sailors in custody were nine men and one woman.

    Diplomatic efforts underway

    "We're aware. We're working on it and we hope to resolve the situation," Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told CNN.

    Secretary of State John Kerry called his Iranian counterpart to try to resolve the matter. Iranian representatives at the U.N. mission in New York had no comment.

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    Video shows American sailor apologizing for Iran incident

    A video aired Wednesday by Iranian state television shows an American sailor apologizing for entering Iranian waters, an embarrassing development for a U.S. administration trying to paint the service members' quick release as a diplomatic victory.

    "It was a mistake that was our fault and we apologize for our mistake," said the U.S sailor, who was identified by Iran's Press TV as the commander. "It was a misunderstanding. We did not mean to go into Iranian territorial water. The Iranian behavior was fantastic while we were here. We thank you very much for your hospitality and your assistance."

    It is not clear from the video -- which also shows the lone female sailor wearing a head covering in accordance with Islamic tradition -- that the sailor was speaking voluntarily, and U.S. officials have not yet said under what circumstances the apology was delivered. A spokesman for Secretary of State John Kerry has made it clear he has not apologized to Iran.

    "The video appears to be authentic, but we cannot speak to the conditions of the situation or what the crew was experiencing at the time," said CENTCOM spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Ben Tisdale in a statement. "The crew is currently undergoing the reintegration process and we will continue to investigate this incident. What matters most right now, however, is that our Sailors are back safely."

    In addition, a CENTCOM official told CNN: "Clearly this staged video exhibits a Sailor making an apology in an unknown context as an effort to defuse a tense situation and protect his crew."

    The sailors were released Wednesday to the American naval fleet in the Persian Gulf after being captured by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard on Tuesday. Iranian authorities let the 10 detained sailors go free after determining that their vessels' entry into Iranian waters was unintentional.

    U.S. denies it had issued apology

    Earlier, the country's semi-official FARS News Agency, citing a statement from Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps, said the sailors were released "after they extended an apology."

    The statement went on to say, "The Americans have undertaken not to repeat such mistakes."

    READ: Former Navy commander: Ships in Iran's waters 'a severe failure'

    But the State Department rejected any notion that the United States had offered an apology.

    "There is no truth in reporting that Secretary Kerry apologized to the Iranians," Kerry spokesman John Kirby told reporters, later tweeting that the claim had "zero" validity. "As the Secretary said in his statement this morning, he expressed gratitude to Iranian authorities for their cooperation in swiftly resolving this matter, and noted that the peaceful and efficient resolution of this issue is a testament to the critical role diplomacy plays in keeping our country safe, secure, and strong."

    The White House said that its approach was vindicated with the rapid return of the sailors.

    But several Republicans criticized President Barack Obama for not addressing the incident during his State of the Union on Tuesday night, which came shortly after the sailors and their two ships were taken.

    "At the White House we reached the conclusion that further elevating the situation by including it in the State of the Union address would not be the most effective way for us to ensure the safe return of our sailors," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said. "And I think the outcome, which is the release of the sailors just hours after the President completed his address, is a pretty powerful endorsement of that strategy."

    Another video of the captured sailors showed them on their knees with their hands on their heads.



    The video was aired just as Kerry credited diplomatic strength and newly developed ties with Iran in helping secure the quick and safe release of the sailors.

    "These are always situations as everybody here knows which have an ability, if not properly guided, to get out of control," Kerry said in a speech at the National Defense University. "I'm appreciative for the quick and appropriate response of the Iranian authorities."

    He said that "all indications suggest or tell us that our sailors were well taken care of, provided with blankets and food and assisted with their return to the fleet earlier today."

    Iranian official says release a learning moment

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    Such a shame the boat broke down just as it entered Iranian waters, the second ship didn't have a tow rope, either of the ships captains were not watching their positions - was their sextant in use by the aircraft carrier at the time?



    Why does the Ameristan leader continue to send dogy warships on active war missions. Is it a sign of lack of maintenance due to dollar crisis? Is the Ameristan navy unable to afford an anchor to share by two ships.

    Did they have an openly displayed gun permit, issued by the Iranian authorities?

    Very well treated considering what they could expect from the Ameristan police force.

    Would the Ameristan navy show the same reluctance to use force if two Iranian boats approached one of it's aircraft carriers?




    Allegedly the Iranian forces also lit up nearby Ameristan and French aircraft carriers

    Iranian Navy Commander: Coast-to-Sea Missiles Readied to Fire at US Warship

    " After Iran arrested ten US sailors on Tuesday, the Iranian Navy locked its missiles on an American aircraft carrier deployed in the region, Iranian Navy Commander Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi said.

    Iran seized and detained two US Navy boats on Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf. Tehran claims the personnel were in Iranian territorial waters illegally when they were captured. The Americans have since been released.

    Following the capture, two US and French aircraft carriers, along with their accompanying fleets and military aircraft, began operations near Iranian waters.

    WATCH: Video Shows Moment of US Sailors' Arrest in Iranian Waters


    "The USS Truman Aircraft carrier showed unprofessional moves for 40 minutes after the detention of the trespassers, while we were highly prepared with our coast-to-sea missiles, missile-launching speedboats and our numerous capabilities," Fadavi said, according to Fars News Agency."

    I wonder if the Iranians will send the boats back in hessian sacks, suitably squashed down into 0.5m cubes. All correctly labeled to indicate the contents of each cube.
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    I guess Iran gains the moral high ground now ?

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    It's funny watching the Rethuglicans calling for war/blood over this.

    Like it's not anything U.S. forces wouldn't do if someone strayed into their territorial waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Would the Ameristan navy show the same reluctance to use force if two Iranian boats approached one of it's aircraft carriers?
    Ummm...Yes.

    See Iranian rocket fly by U.S. carrier - CNN Video

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    That's a whole different kettle of fish.

    The U.S. carrier was in international waters and the Iranians announced they were conducting live fire exercises from their own.

    It was arguably an intentionally provocative act but the U.S. ships had no grounds to do anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    The U.S. carrier was in international waters and the Iranians announced they were conducting live fire exercises from their own.
    Don't really know why we need to still be up in the NAG anymore. It's not like we're enforcing the no-fly zones anymore. Back in the day we used to just sit outside the straits in the IO on Gonzo Station.

    Need to go back to doing that.

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    What sort of ship were you on Stores?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    It's funny watching the Rethuglicans calling for war/blood over this.

    Like it's not anything U.S. forces wouldn't do if someone strayed into their territorial waters.
    Staged since it seems the Jews and their Republican stooges will do anything to destroy any constructive discourse with Iran? Haven't we done enough damage to that Country starting with the 1954 coup and installation of the Shah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    What sort of ship were you on Stores?
    Only carriers ... 5 of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Quote: Originally Posted by OhOh Would the Ameristan navy show the same reluctance to use force if two Iranian boats approached one of it's aircraft carriers? Ummm...Yes.
    You have obviously not sailed around San Diego harbour and sailed up to a moored aircraft carrier. The warnings start verbally but once the machinery is started guns are trained and if guns are trained they are loaded and ready to fire on command.

    Dipshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Such a shame the boat broke down just as it entered Iranian waters, the second ship didn't have a tow rope, either of the ships captains were not watching their positions - was their sextant in use by the aircraft carrier at the time?



    Why does the Ameristan leader continue to send dogy warships on active war missions. Is it a sign of lack of maintenance due to dollar crisis? Is the Ameristan navy unable to afford an anchor to share by two ships.

    Did they have an openly displayed gun permit, issued by the Iranian authorities?

    Very well treated considering what they could expect from the Ameristan police force.

    Would the Ameristan navy show the same reluctance to use force if two Iranian boats approached one of it's aircraft carriers?




    Allegedly the Iranian forces also lit up nearby Ameristan and French aircraft carriers

    Iranian Navy Commander: Coast-to-Sea Missiles Readied to Fire at US Warship

    " After Iran arrested ten US sailors on Tuesday, the Iranian Navy locked its missiles on an American aircraft carrier deployed in the region, Iranian Navy Commander Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi said.

    Iran seized and detained two US Navy boats on Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf. Tehran claims the personnel were in Iranian territorial waters illegally when they were captured. The Americans have since been released.

    Following the capture, two US and French aircraft carriers, along with their accompanying fleets and military aircraft, began operations near Iranian waters.

    WATCH: Video Shows Moment of US Sailors' Arrest in Iranian Waters

    "The USS Truman Aircraft carrier showed unprofessional moves for 40 minutes after the detention of the trespassers, while we were highly prepared with our coast-to-sea missiles, missile-launching speedboats and our numerous capabilities," Fadavi said, according to Fars News Agency."

    I wonder if the Iranians will send the boats back in hessian sacks, suitably squashed down into 0.5m cubes. All correctly labeled to indicate the contents of each cube.

    All such random and convenient coincidences....


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