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    AP: Smugglers busted trying to sell nuclear material to ISIS

    AP October 7, 2015, 5:41 AM
    AP: Smugglers busted trying to sell nuclear material to ISIS

    CHISINAU, Moldova -- In the backwaters of Eastern Europe, authorities working with the FBI have interrupted four attempts in the past five years by gangs with suspected Russian connections that sought to sell radioactive material to Middle Eastern extremists, The Associated Press has learned. The latest known case came in February this year, when a smuggler offered a huge cache of deadly cesium - enough to contaminate several city blocks - and specifically sought a buyer from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

    Criminal organizations, some with ties to the Russian KGB's successor agency, are driving a thriving black market in nuclear materials in the tiny and impoverished Eastern European country of Moldova, investigators say. The successful busts, however, were undercut by striking shortcomings: Kingpins got away, and those arrested evaded long prison sentences, sometimes quickly returning to nuclear smuggling, AP found.

    Moldovan police and judicial authorities shared investigative case files with the AP in an effort to spotlight how dangerous the nuclear black market has become. They say the breakdown in cooperation between Russia and the West means that it has become much harder to know whether smugglers are finding ways to move parts of Russia's vast store of radioactive materials - an unknown quantity of which has leached into the black market.

    "We can expect more of these cases," said Constantin Malic, a Moldovan police officer who investigated all four cases. "As long as the smugglers think they can make big money without getting caught, they will keep doing it."

    In wiretaps, videotaped arrests, photographs of bomb-grade material, documents and interviews, AP found a troubling vulnerability in the anti-smuggling strategy. From the first known Moldovan case in 2010 to the most recent one in February, a pattern has emerged: Authorities pounce on suspects in the early stages of a deal, giving the ringleaders a chance to escape with their nuclear contraband - an indication that the threat from the nuclear black market in the Balkans is far from under control.

    Moldovan investigators can't be sure that the suspects who fled didn't hold on to the bulk of the nuclear materials. Nor do they know whether the groups, which are pursuing buyers who are enemies of the West, may have succeeded in selling deadly nuclear material to terrorists at a time when ISIS has made clear its ambition to use weapons of mass destruction.

    The cases involve secret meetings in a high-end nightclub; blueprints for dirty bombs; and a nerve-shattered undercover investigator who slammed vodka shots before heading into meetings with smugglers. Informants and a police officer posing as a connected gangster - complete with a Mercedes Benz provided by the FBI - penetrated the smuggling gangs. The police used a combination of old-fashioned undercover tactics and high-tech gear, from radiation detectors to clothing threaded with recording devices.

    The Moldovan operations were built on a partnership between the FBI and a small team of Moldovan investigators - including Malic, who over five years went from near total ignorance of the frightening black market in his backyard to wrapping up four sting operations.

    "In the age of the Islamic State, it's especially terrifying to have real smugglers of nuclear bomb material apparently making connections with real buyers," says Matthew Bunn, a Harvard professor who led a secret study for the Clinton administration on the security of Russia's nuclear arsenal.

    The Moldovan investigators were well aware of the lethal consequences of just one slip-up. Posing as a representative's buyer, Malic was so terrified before meetings that he gulped shots of vodka to steel his nerves. Other cases contained elements of farce: In the cesium deal, an informant held a high-stakes meeting with a seller at an elite dance club filled with young people nibbling on sushi.

    In the case of the cesium, investigators said the one vial they ultimately recovered was a less radioactive form of cesium than the smugglers originally had advertised, and not suitable for making a dirty bomb.

    The most serious case began in the spring of 2011, with the investigation of a group led by a shadowy Russian named Alexandr Agheenco, "the colonel" to his cohorts, whom Moldovan authorities believe to be an officer with the Russian FSB, previously known as the KGB. A middle man working for the colonel was recorded arranging the sale of bomb-grade uranium, U-235, and blueprints for a dirty bomb to a man from Sudan, according to several officials. The blueprints were discovered in a raid of the middleman's home, according to police and court documents.

    Wiretapped conversations repeatedly exposed plots that targeted the United States, the Moldovan officials said. At one point the middleman told an informant posing as a buyer that it was essential that the smuggled uranium go to Arabs.

    "He said to the informant on a wire: 'I really want an Islamic buyer because they will bomb the Americans,'" said Malic, the investigator.

    As in the other cases, investigators arrested mostly mid-level players after an early exchange of cash and samples of radioactive goods.

    The ringleader, the colonel, got away. Police cannot determine whether he had more nuclear material. His partner, who wanted to "annihilate America," is out of prison.

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    Not reading this rubbish, but I bet that, as HArry is posting it and probably from some Merkin corporate media, it will insinuate that Russia is behind it, as they try to twist the situation into making the lemmings like harry think that Russia created, armed, and continue to fund ISIS.

    Close?

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    Wasn't there some claim a few years back by the USA of some nuclear material being bought in Africa to sell to Iraq for WMDs?

    Maybe the same creative writers have been hired again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Not reading this rubbish, but I bet that, as HArry is posting it and probably from some Merkin corporate media, it will insinuate that Russia is behind it, as they try to twist the situation into making the lemmings like harry think that Russia created, armed, and continue to fund ISIS.

    Close?
    Well you're close to being a complete twat, but that's about it.

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    who wants to buy some surplus smoke detectors ?

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    Can they spot golf balls too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Not reading this rubbish, but I bet that, as HArry is posting it and probably from some Merkin corporate media, it will insinuate that Russia is behind it, as they try to twist the situation into making the lemmings like harry think that Russia created, armed, and continue to fund ISIS.

    Close?
    It's a given that most don't recognize who are the real boogiemen...

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    Why does this surprise people when the stuff sells for GBP24m a kilo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    the stuff
    what stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    cache of deadly cesium
    what isotope ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium

    the article is clickbait

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Not reading this rubbish, but I bet that, as HArry is posting it and probably from some Merkin corporate media, it will insinuate that Russia is behind it, as they try to twist the situation into making the lemmings like harry think that Russia created, armed, and continue to fund ISIS.

    Close?
    Spot on.

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    Pair of cretins.

    It was obvious when the USSR crashed that shitloads of this stuff would find its way onto the black market.

    It's been going on since the '90s.

    You tin foil twats haven't got a clue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Not reading this rubbish
    AP is rubbish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    the stuff
    what stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    cache of deadly cesium
    what isotope ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium

    the article is clickbait
    by the sound of it they were running a scam. buy the special stuff and get the orginary stuff. Saying that ceasium dropped in water is abale as psudo's grip on reaility.


    with boomers on a MIA its nice to see someone go for the crown of TD's king fool post with your dismissial of the artical... there a few reasons to be suspicious of this artical, some of which would take about 10 minutes of inet reaerch, but why go to the effort when you believ you have some kind innate ability to just know the truth without the time consuming process of discovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Not reading this rubbish, but I bet that, as HArry is posting it and probably from some Merkin corporate media, it will insinuate that Russia is behind it, as they try to twist the situation into making the lemmings like harry think that Russia created, armed, and continue to fund ISIS.

    Close?
    Him and many like him will fall for this crap. Just wait till the movies start again with the bad Ruskies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Not reading this rubbish
    AP is rubbish?
    He's a liar, he read it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Not reading this rubbish, but I bet that, as HArry is posting it and probably from some Merkin corporate media, it will insinuate that Russia is behind it, as they try to twist the situation into making the lemmings like harry think that Russia created, armed, and continue to fund ISIS.

    Close?
    Him and many like him will fall for this crap. Just wait till the movies start again with the bad Ruskies!
    How are those shape shifting lizard men working out for you?


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    All nice and green and nicely anti-american for you until there is nuclear detonation in your city

    Glad there are agencies working to prevent that, give my full support, you do great work

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    suspected Russian connections
    = they have no proof of Russian connections
    a smuggler offered a huge cache of deadly cesium
    = they have no proof the "smuggler" actually had any "deadly" cesium (In fact there was no "deadly" cesium. * See below).
    photographs of bomb-grade material
    = photographs of a substance with no proof of it's exact nature. Does U235 look different than U238 in a photograph?
    In the case of the cesium, investigators said the one vial they ultimately recovered was a less radioactive form of cesium than the smugglers originally had advertised, and not suitable for making a dirty bomb.
    = scammers, looking for easy money from idiots. * See above.
    At one point the middleman told an informant posing as a buyer that it was essential that the smuggled uranium go to Arabs.
    Sounds like the sort of thing an Israeli secret service agent might say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy
    All nice and green and nicely anti-american for you until there is nuclear detonation in your city

    Glad there are agencies working to prevent that, give my full support, you do great work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    At one point the middleman told an informant posing as a buyer that it was essential that the smuggled uranium go to Arabs.
    Sounds like the sort of thing an Israeli secret service agent might say.
    Except he wasn't - he thought he was talking to an IS client. He was one of the men arrested. So I think they'd know if he was Mossad by now.

    'You can make a dirty bomb, which would be perfect for the Islamic State,’ the smuggler said. ‘If you have a connection with them, the business will go smoothly.’ But the smuggler, Valentin Grossu, wasn’t sure the client was for real — and he was right to worry. The client was an informant, and it took some 20 meetings to persuade Grossu that he was an authentic Islamic State representative. Eventually, the two men exchanged cash for a sample in a sting operation that landed Grossu in jail. The previously unpublicized case is one of at least four attempts in five years in which criminal networks with suspected Russian ties sought to sell radioactive material to extremists through Moldova, an investigation by The Associated Press has found. One investigation uncovered an attempt to sell bomb-grade uranium to a real buyer from the Middle East, the first known case of its kind.”

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    And that only is what is reported in media.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    At one point the middleman told an informant posing as a buyer that it was essential that the smuggled uranium go to Arabs.
    Sounds like the sort of thing an Israeli secret service agent might say.
    Except he wasn't - he thought he was talking to an IS client. He was one of the men arrested. So I think they'd know if he was Mossad by now.

    'You can make a dirty bomb, which would be perfect for the Islamic State,’ the smuggler said. ‘If you have a connection with them, the business will go smoothly.’ But the smuggler, Valentin Grossu, wasn’t sure the client was for real — and he was right to worry. The client was an informant, and it took some 20 meetings to persuade Grossu that he was an authentic Islamic State representative. Eventually, the two men exchanged cash for a sample in a sting operation that landed Grossu in jail. The previously unpublicized case is one of at least four attempts in five years in which criminal networks with suspected Russian ties sought to sell radioactive material to extremists through Moldova, an investigation by The Associated Press has found. One investigation uncovered an attempt to sell bomb-grade uranium to a real buyer from the Middle East, the first known case of its kind.”

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    God preserve us from fools who believe anything they would like to be true, must be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
    God preserve us from fools who believe anything they would like to be true, must be true
    such as believing in d0g ?

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