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    Nine good Americans shot to death. RIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    That's making a political, factually wrong and misleading statement.
    Bullshit. Did you read your link? What country did they use to compare gun violence? No need to bother. Answer. South Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    That's making a political, factually wrong and misleading statement.
    Bullshit. Did you read your link? What country did they use to compare gun violence? No need to bother. Answer. South Africa.
    Don't get your drawers in a roar there Norts.

    They could have used Norway ( Anders Brevik) which last seen was a 'civilized country' or whatever Obama said.
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    South Africa, Sudan . . . the contemporaries of the USA

    . . . and people like BM are proud of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    South Africa, Sudan . . . the contemporaries of the USA

    . . . and people like BM are proud of this
    Got link for that one do ya ph?

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    Yup. I'll give you your usual friendly advice: Go find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Obama on Charleston shooting: “Let’s be clear—this kind of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries."

    That's making a political, factually wrong and misleading statement. Obama is so entrenched in the mindset "Every crisis is an opportunity" he can't take off the blinders.
    Lets just say it HAS happened in advanced countries, it just doesn't happen regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Obama on Charleston shooting: “Let’s be clear—this kind of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries."

    That's making a political, factually wrong and misleading statement. Obama is so entrenched in the mindset "Every crisis is an opportunity" he can't take off the blinders.
    Lets just say it HAS happened in advanced countries, it just doesn't happen regularly.
    Let's even say that it has happened in few western democracies; maybe once.


    Anyone trying to defend the US' record on gun murders in civilian hands is a moron

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    Dylann Roof Flown Back to South Carolina to Face Charges


    Dylann Roof boards a plane at Shelby-Cleveland County Regional Airport for extradition back to
    Charleston, South Carolina. (photo: Andy McMillan/Getty Images)


    Suspect boards plane in chains and bulletproof vest as survivor describes "playing dead" to protect herself and granddaughter

    The Telegraph
    June 19, 2015
    By Andrew Marszal, and agencies

    Dylann Roof has been flown back to South Carolina in chains hours after his arrest over the murder of nine black people shot dead at a historic African-American church in South Carolina.

    Having waived his right to extradition, Roof is due for a bail hearing on Friday but will appear by video link from the Charleston-area detention center where he was jailed, said Major Eric Watson, a Charleston county sheriff's office spokesman.

    US attorney general Loretta Lynch said her office was investigating whether to charge Roof with a hate crime motivated by racial or other prejudice. Under federal and some state laws, such crimes typically carry harsher penalties. But South Carolina, which has the death penalty, is one of just five US states lacking hate crime laws.

    The extradition came as a Snapchat video taken from inside the church during the study session emerged, which appeared to show Roof before the massacre.

    More details emerged late on Thursday of the shooting at a Bilbe study session in the nearly 200-year-old Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church, which authorities say was motivated by racial hatred.

    Felecia Sanders described how she had survived the shooting massacre by playing dead as she lay on top of her granddaughter to protect her. Ms Sanders' account was recounted by Cynthia Taylor, the niece of 87-year-old shooting victim Susie Jackson, to AP.

    A friend of Roof's described how the suspect had told him that "blacks were taking over the world" and "someone needed to do something about it for the white race." Joseph Meek Jr. said Roof "wanted segregation between whites and blacks" and had drunkenly boasted of "a plan" after spending his 21st birthday money from his parents on a gun.

    Mr Meek said he was so concerned by Roof's behaviour that he took the gun from Roof's car boot and hid it, but later returned the weapon when Roof was sober.

    full article: Charleston shooting: Dylann Roof flown back to South Carolina to face charges - Telegraph

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    Will Dylann Roof Get The Death Penalty If Found Guilty? South Carolina's Hate Crime Laws Complicate Things A Little


    "While South Carolina has the death penalty, it’s one of five U.S. states that doesn’t have any hate crime laws, as ThinkProgress pointed out. Hate crime laws typically heighten penalties and increase sentences against perpetrators. However, that most likely wouldn’t matter too much in Roof’s case, considering the gravity of his crimes".

    Rest of article in the link above.

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    Not making any excuses for this heinous crime.

    But others (The SNL comedian's wife, and the CT school shooter among others are on these meds.


    CHARLESTON SHOOTER WAS ON DRUG LINKED TO VIOLENT OUTBURSTS
    Dylann Storm Roof was taking habit-forming drug suboxone


    » Charleston Shooter Was on Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Not making any excuses for this heinous crime.

    But others (The SNL comedian's wife, and the CT school shooter among others are on these meds.


    CHARLESTON SHOOTER WAS ON DRUG LINKED TO VIOLENT OUTBURSTS
    Dylann Storm Roof was taking habit-forming drug suboxone


    » Charleston Shooter Was on Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
    As opposed to shooting them with guns which, surprisingly, have also been linked to violent outbursts.

    Clearly written by someone who has no clue what Suboxone is. Fact is the shooter shot people with a gun and certain groups are looking for any excuse to distract from the fact that in the US crazies have easy access to guns. There's no need to look for any other reason, if deadly weapons are easily available it's inevitable that crazies will use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Not making any excuses for this heinous crime.

    But others (The SNL comedian's wife, and the CT school shooter among others are on these meds.


    CHARLESTON SHOOTER WAS ON DRUG LINKED TO VIOLENT OUTBURSTS
    Dylann Storm Roof was taking habit-forming drug suboxone


    » Charleston Shooter Was on Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
    As opposed to shooting them with guns which, surprisingly, have also been linked to violent outbursts.

    Clearly written by someone who has no clue what Suboxone is. Fact is the shooter shot people with a gun and certain groups are looking for any excuse to distract from the fact that in the US crazies have easy access to guns. There's no need to look for any other reason, if deadly weapons are easily available it's inevitable that crazies will use them.
    I don't know who you're referring to, the writer of the article?

    Or, some other person or advocacy group.

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    The writer of the article, of course. Who else would I be referring to? Are you on Suboxone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    The writer of the article, of course. Who else would I be referring to? Are you on Suboxone?
    I've never heard of Suboxone before I read the article.

    Yes, a gun was involved.

    And it seems many of these shooters (Cinema in CO., CT, Arizona, were on the medications.

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    ^Not rocket science bob's having a go at the artical. But then thats not rocket science given infowars specializing in telling paranoid Americans who think everyone's out to get then, what they want to hear...then sell them some expensive useless survivalist crap on the back of it.

    post their stuff tells us far more about the poster, than it does about anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    ^Not rocket science bob's having a go at the artical. But then thats not rocket science given infowars specializing in telling paranoid Americans who think everyone's out to get then, what they want to hear...then sell them some expensive useless survivalist crap on the back of it.

    post their stuff tells us far more about the poster, than it does about anything else.
    I only read the first 50 words of the article.

    It was the fact of the possibility of the drug, not the article spin - that I posted this.


    Good day, sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo
    America has become a petri dish for breeding mental illness in young white males
    I wouldn't be so quick to label him mentally ill. That defense could land him in a psych ward instead of death row. There is a lot of hate radio and internet directed at guys like this that provide easy scapegoats for their failures. I think he made a conscious choice, planned it out and acted, not the behavior of someone mentally ill.
    The legal standard in most states is that if a person can appreciate the criminality of his acts then he is responsible and goes to jail (or death row), even if he has a mental illness. He fled so he knew he did something wrong. I agree that he made a conscious choice, is responsible and should be punished. He also obviously has some sort of mental illness. These two things can coexist in the American legal system. It's very rare that mass murderers avoid prison because of the legal standards that exist in these cases.

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    OK, I read the article. Seems to focus on the Pharma companies.

    I found this vid at the bottom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=175&v=RsTykXcyLXQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    OK, I read the article. Seems to focus on the Pharma companies.

    I found this vid at the bottom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=175&v=RsTykXcyLXQ
    Put these whakos back in the asylum for fok's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Got link for that one do ya
    link to this post

    it is millions of people very much like you that are the root of the problem

    until the illogical thinking changes your tribe of retards will continue to whelp the people who will go out and commit this kind of outrage and thinking they are doing the right thing
    If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Not making any excuses for this heinous crime.

    But others (The SNL comedian's wife, and the CT school shooter among others are on these meds.


    CHARLESTON SHOOTER WAS ON DRUG LINKED TO VIOLENT OUTBURSTS
    Dylann Storm Roof was taking habit-forming drug suboxone


    » Charleston Shooter Was on Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
    As opposed to shooting them with guns which, surprisingly, have also been linked to violent outbursts.

    Clearly written by someone who has no clue what Suboxone is. Fact is the shooter shot people with a gun and certain groups are looking for any excuse to distract from the fact that in the US crazies have easy access to guns. There's no need to look for any other reason, if deadly weapons are easily available it's inevitable that crazies will use them.
    I don't know who you're referring to, the writer of the article?

    Or, some other person or advocacy group.
    What fucking drugs is Alex Jones on then, and they let him have guns.


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    White suspect confesses to deadly attack on black U.S. church - CNN

    Apparently, according to CNN, Dylann Roof has confessed to the attack killing nine people in order to start a civil war.

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    I'm not an Alex Jones follower nor a supporter. He's a loud mouthed attention whore. Also, on post #61, I stated I was not making the meds as an excuse for the killings. I merely posted the article to note he may have been on meds. All of his photos show him looking disturbed, like the CT, CO, And Arizona shooters.

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    Well lets be honest the root cause of these deaths is that this lad was raised to belief in a reality where he is a superior being simply because he was white. When his fantacy meet reality, and he saw lesser people doing better than himself.... he decided it was because these people were stealing from him, rather than the reaility that he was just another aimless, lazy fuck up, so he turned into bitter hate.

    Then his dad finished his hard work by weopnising his son with gun and we ended up in the next installment of america's long list of mass killings.

    In many respects not that different to these chaps from bradford et al who go off to SI in iraq.

    Obviously this is not the reaility the right live in, booners being TD's best example. will want to blame this on anything but guns. from their position any attach on gun ownership, is part of the one world government conspirisy.... shit at some point someone will say, there was no shooting, no victims only actors pretending to be victims in a fake mass killing to hoodwink americans into thinking that guns promote violeince in their country, are part of the problem and need to be taken off the streets...... a reality that has been demonstrated in every western country... hence the need of the fantasists to compare America with some of the most violent emergeg and third word countries in the world.. rather than its peers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    ^Not rocket science bob's having a go at the artical. But then thats not rocket science given infowars specializing in telling paranoid Americans who think everyone's out to get then, what they want to hear...then sell them some expensive useless survivalist crap on the back of it.

    post their stuff tells us far more about the poster, than it does about anything else.
    I only read the first 50 words of the article.

    It was the fact of the possibility of the drug, not the article spin - that I posted this.


    Good day, sir.
    So you didn't read the spin just the bit abut pharms. That was the spin.

    infowars revolves round every conspiracy theory going, guns and their survivalist prodcuts are the way to protect your family. The pharms are part of this conpirisym which is why they prevent you from getting to real cures like collonid silver (which turns people blue).... so given a choice between guns being the issue or pharms.... the readers of infowars will want it to be pharms and that is the only evidence they need.

    I would say your one of them and given you only needed to read the first 50 words to fall into line.
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