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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Bit worn out and repetitive innit?
    Not at all, more pertinent as time passes.

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    US marines to join Australian warship after HMAS Toowomba was Challenged by Chinese Navy in SCS


    American marines will soon embed on Australia's largest warship for a tour of Pacific island nations, as concerns grow among western allies over Beijing's rising influence in the region.



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    Defence Minister Marise Payne said planning for "Indo-Pacific Endeavour 18" had been underway since late last year
    Several dozen US marines will be embedded on HMAS Adelaide ahead of war games in Hawaii in July
    Last month, Australian ships had been challenged by the Chinese Navy as the transited through the South China Sea

    The ABC can reveal preparations are almost complete for the Australian Defence Force's Joint Task Group mission, centred on the amphibious Landing Helicopter Dock, HMAS Adelaide.

    In a statement, Defence Minister Marise Payne said planning for "Indo-Pacific Endeavour 18" had been underway since late last year.

    "IPE 18 is a major activity for the Australian Defence Force, and aims to promote security in our near region through a series of bilateral and multilateral engagements with our regional partners, as well as training and capacity-building activities," Senator Payne told the ABC.

    The Minister said Royal Australian Navy ships HMAS Adelaide, HMAS Melbourne, HMAS Toowoomba and HMAS Success would take part "in a range of training and engagement activities in Fiji, Vanuatu, Tonga, Samoa and the Solomon Islands".

    "Ships assigned to IPE 18 will also take part in Exercise Rim of the Pacific, a bi-annual multinational joint exercise staged in and around the Hawaiian Islands," the Minister said.

    Defence sources have confirmed several dozen US marines, who are part of a current rotation in Darwin, would also be embedded on HMAS Adelaide ahead of the RIMPAC war games in Hawaii in July.
    HMAS Toowoomba
    Photo: HMAS Toowoomba had recently been challenged by the Chinese Navy in waters claimed by Beijing. (Supplied: Royal Australian Navy)

    Euan Graham, the Director of the International Security Program at the Lowy Institute, has welcomed the impending Pacific deployment.

    "It's a clear signal that Australia is stepping up its presence and its defence diplomacy in the immediate region," Mr Graham said.

    "There is a connection that could be made between the geopolitical competition that we're starting to see unfold in the Pacific, with China becoming more present as an actor (including military deployments that will become more regular in the future) and Australia doesn't want that gap to be filled by outside actors."

    Last month the ABC revealed HMAS Toowoomba and HMAS Success, along with HMAS Anzac, had been challenged by the Chinese Navy as they were transiting towards Vietnam through the South China Sea, in waters claimed by Beijing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Last month the ABC revealed HMAS Toowoomba and HMAS Success, along with HMAS Anzac, had been challenged by the Chinese Navy as they were transiting towards Vietnam through the South China Sea, in waters claimed by Beijing


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    The Royal Australian Navy Adelaide-class guided missile frigate HMAS Sydney (FFG 03) and the Anzac-class frigate HMAS Ballarat (FFG 155)

    The Chinese navy challenged Australian warships in the South China Sea as it conducted its largest-ever naval parade

    Three of Australia's warships were "challenged" by the Chinese navy in the South China Sea earlier this month, according to an ABC report.

    Defense sources told ABC that Australia's navy was en route to Vietnam when it encountered polite but "robust" challenges from the People's Liberation Army (PLA), but the specific nature of the challenges is not described. HMAS Toowoomba had departed from Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia, while HMAS Anzac and HMAS Success travelled through the South China Sea after leaving the Philippines.

    It's believed the interaction happened around the same time China was conducting its largest-ever naval parade on April 12. The massive show of force involved 10,000 naval officers, 48 naval vessels, submarines, the country's only aircraft carrier.

    During the event President Xi Jinping was on board one of the destroyers, overseeing the parade.

    When questioned about the incident, Australia's Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wouldn't reveal any details.

    "All I can say to you is we maintain and practice the right of freedom of navigation and overflight throughout the world," Turnbull said. "In this context, you're talking about naval vessels on the world's oceans including the South China Sea, as is our perfect right in accordance with international law.""

    https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/the-chinese-navy-challenged-australian-warships-in-the-south-china-sea-as-it-conducted-its-largest-ever-naval-parade/ar-AAw5sBY

    Australian warships challenged by Chinese military in South China Sea

    "Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne also reiterated Australia's rights within international law and downplayed the seriousness of the incident.
    "I think 'confrontation' is somewhat of a tabloid-style description of what goes on in the South China Sea very regularly," he said.

    In a statement, China's Defence Ministry said: "“The reports from Australia are different from the facts".

    "On April 15 China's naval vessels encountered Australian naval ships in the South China Sea. China's ships used professional language to communicate with the Australian side. China's operation is lawful and conforms to conventions. It is professional and safe."

    Australian warships challenged by Chinese military in South China Sea - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


    No real details of where this event took place or how close these ships were to each other when "communicating to each other", 5Km, 50 Km? Were the ships being warned of the Chinese Naval Manoeuvrers taking place nearby? Was it radar images, visual range, radio transmissions, bullhorns or banging hulls?

    Don't navies inform the world a certain area of ocean is closed for these types of events and other ships keep clear? Unless they are spy trawlers full of evil foreigners? One wonders if the Australians were not aware of the Chines ships playing games at sea with their only aircraft carrier Which opens the question if they did not, it must have been a surprise. If they did, why would they want to interrupt the Chinese war games?

    How many CSG's does Australia have?

    One wonders what UK or ameristan would have done if Lizze or BB were on ship in the middle of the ocean, as allegedly Uncle Xi was, and foreign warships were approaching at high speed, closing in on the "defensive zone", of Lizze or BB.

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    The old chinkies are flexing their muscles.

    Since taking power as the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party and Chairman of its Central Military Commission in late 2012, Xi Jinping has taken bold steps to reform the Chinese military and demonstrated a willingness to project military power. The new five-year military reform plan that began in November 2015 has already led to a major restructure of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) and concentration of more powers in Xi’s hands, thus further weakening civilian oversight over the military.

    The projection of China’s military power is particularly noticeable in the militarization of the artificial islands in the South China Sea, despite claims to the contrary. Earlier this month, the US media reported that American intelligence sources have confirmed that China has installed anti-ship cruise missiles and surface-to-air missiles on three of these islands. The presence of the PLA Navy (PLAN) infrastructure and other hardware in the South China Sea has reached such a point that recently it prompted the incoming chief of the US Pacific Command, Admiral Philip S Davidson, to tell a US Senate Committee that “China is now capable of controlling the South China Sea in all scenarios short of war with the United States.”

    If China’s growing naval power in the South China Sea is worrying the United States and its allies, its increasing presence in the Indian Ocean is ringing alarm bells in New Delhi, Washington and several other capitals. China’s naval presence in the Indian Ocean region has increased as its dependence on oil imports from the Middle East and Africa has grown. China began its naval engagement in the Indian Ocean as part of its collaborative efforts with the international community to control piracy and deal with terrorism. It worked closely with the European Union countries and the US in the Gulf of Aden in their anti-piracy operations, sending more than two dozen naval groups to the region between 2008 and 2017.

    China’s anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden provided China with a cover to establish a permanent presence in the region by building its first overseas military base in Djibouti. Initially flagged as a logistics base to support the PLAN’s counter-piracy operations, the facility in Djibouti is a full-fledged military base with the presence of all branches of the Chinese military. Located only a few miles from the United States’ only military base in Africa, the Chinese base, which became operational on 1 August 2017, has a large helicopter facility and accommodation for 10,000 military personnel. It is also believed to have exclusive access to at least one of the berths of the Chinese-built Doraleh Multipurpose Port.

    In 2011, long before China began the construction of its Djibouti base, the nationalist Global Times newspaper had called for China to build overseas military bases. The stated rationale behind such calls by the Chinese state media and some scholars was that in addition to resisting pirates and terrorists, such bases will help the Chinese military in fulfilling its international obligations as part of China’s participation in UN Peacekeeping operations in Africa. Moreover, they argued, the overseas military bases can also be used to evacuate Chinese citizens from conflict zones.

    The scale and layout of the Chinese base in Djibouti, however, suggests that it is not a facility designed solely to protect trade routes from pirates and terrorists and to help with peacekeeping operations. Some analysts believe that it may be part of a Chinese plan to establish a network of military bases in the Indian Ocean region. In fact, American and some Indian strategists have long argued that China is trying to surround India with a network of dual-use port facilities in the Indian Ocean. This was dubbed as a ‘string of pearls’ strategy by the consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton in a report prepared for the US Defence Department in the early 2000s. Entitled “Energy Futures in Asia”, the report argued that the construction of these ports was meant to not only “protect China’s energy interests, but also to serve broad security objectives.”

    There is much speculation that China’s next naval base would most likely be built in the Pakistani port city of Gwadar, where a Chinese built port is already managed by a Chinese company and there is a strong Chinese presence. Gwadar is the terminus of the China Pakistan Economic Corridor, a flagship project of Xi Jinping’s One Belt One Road initiative (OBOR), which is now officially translated as the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).
    China has also taken a 99-year lease on Sri Lanka’s Hambantota port, which was built by Chinese companies and funded by a Chinese loan. As the port hardly generates any income and Sri Lanka was unable to repay the loan, China offered to convert its loan into equity. Although the Sri Lankan government has said the Hambantota port will not be used as a Chinese military base and it would not compromise India’s security, there remains a possibility that a debt-ridden Sri Lankan government might be pushed into allowing the PLAN use of the port.
    The Indian government was concerned when a Chinese submarine and a warship docked in Colombo in October 2014. The new Sirisena government which took power in January 2015, however, may have adopted a different approach to visits by Chinese submarines and warships as it rejected another request from China for a submarine visit to Colombo in October 2017. It is not clear whether this represents a policy change on the part of the Sri Lankan government or the request was denied so as not to cause offence to the prime minister of India who was visiting Sri Lanka the same month.
    Regardless of the short-term tactical changes in the policies of Indian Ocean states in relation to naval cooperation with China, the long-term trend in the region seems to be one of competition and rivalry between the two rising powers of Asia. China is likely to continue to push ahead with an enhanced naval presence in the Indian Ocean. While India on its own might not be able to counter the growing Chinese presence in what the Indian Navy regards as its Area of Responsibility (AOR), it has stepped up naval cooperation with the United States, Japan and other like-minded countries. The future seems less certain than the imagery of a recent Wuhan summit between Xi and Prime Minister Modi might suggest.
    Pradeep Taneja is a Lecturer in Asian Politics, School of Social and Political Sciences, University of Melbourne.
    https://cpianalysis.org/2018/05/17/c...-indian-ocean/

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    Be interesting to get a perspective through Chinese eyes on this thread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Be interesting to get a perspective through Chinese eyes on this thread....

    try squinting

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    try squinting
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Located only a few miles from the United States’ only military base in Africa,
    I looked at the original as your wall of text was irritating my eyes.

    However one statement stood out, see above.

    I suggest that shows a certain inexcusable lack of knowledge.

    'arry your source is crap. An Indian native, resident and embedded in Australia, come on.

    Here is one sources opinion of military bases. It's from 2014 so probably double the countries by now. I suppose the ameristani forces could keep moving around so an actual "base" is never actually built. Bases make such easy targets to attack and some ameristani blue eyed boys might get a scratch or two. Possibly they are carried everywhere, airplane, truck, motorcycle even a locals back and their feet never touch the ground. The "no boots on the ground" soles are wearing a bit thin.



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    You're waffling again.

    It doesn't matter what your stupid fucking "opinion" sites say, a base is a base and yes, I know there are military stationed all over Africa, but you're wasting your fucking time, you pedantic twat.

    It is irrelevant.

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