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    Boston Bombings Suspect Found 'Guilty'

    BOSTON—
    Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was convicted on all counts Wednesday in the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings by a federal jury that now must decide whether the 21-year-old former college student should be executed.

    Jurors spent slightly more than 11 hours deciding Tsarnaev's guilt in two days of deliberations after 16 days of testimony.

    "It's not something that will ever be over," said Karen Brassard, whose ankles and shin were injured by pieces of the bomb. "You'll feel it forever. It's forever a part of our life. ... I don't know what justice is. I'm grateful to have him off the street.''

    Two shrapnel-packed pressure-cooker bombs exploded near the marathon finish line on April 15, 2013, killing three people – Martin Richard, 8, Chinese student Lingzi Lu, 23, and Krystle Campbell, 29 – and wounding more than 260 others.

    Tsarnaev also was convicted in the death of Sean Collier, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology patrol officer shot to death three days later as he and his older brother, Tamerlan, attempted to evade police.

    The defendant, dressed in a blue sweater and dark blazer, looked pale as he entered the courtroom to hear the verdict. His lawyer, Judy Clarke, gave him a brief pat on the back as he sat down.

    VOA's Fatima Tlisova reported Tsarnaev folded his arms, fidgeted and looked down at the defense table as he listened to one guilty verdict after another on all 30 counts against him, including conspiracy, murder and use of a weapon of mass destruction.

    There were some families of victims in the courtroom, and their reaction as the verdict was read was very calm, Tlisova observed. She noted, though, they seemed satisfied with the verdict judging by discussions she had with them outside the courthouse.

    Seventeen of the counts are capital offenses, making him eligible for the death penalty.

    “I hope today’s verdict provides a small amount of closure for the survivors, families, and all impacted by the violent and tragic events surrounding the 2013 Boston Marathon,” Boston Mayor Martin J. Walsh said in a statement. “The incidents of those days have forever left a mark on our city.”

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    baby faced bomber won't be seeing his virgins for a while.

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    This case is a fair reason to Off this guy don't you think ?

    Bang Bang, job done.

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    probably what he wants but the fear factor will be life without parole.
    should have topped himself when he had the chance.
    but the silly fecker thought he could hide.
    he'll be welcomed into the industrial complex.

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    Experts Question Legal Theory That Makes Boston Bomber Eligible for Death

    Now that a jury has found Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev guilty on 30 federal charges – 17 of which carry the death penalty – the trial now moves to the sentencing phase. The seven women and five men on the jury will now decide whether Tsarnaev should be executed or spend the rest of his life in prison.

    That Tsarnaev is even facing the death penalty is a prospect that troubles some legal experts – even some who support the death penalty.

    At the heart of the debate is the issue of federal supremacy.

    In the U.S. legal system, individual states have jurisdiction over most crimes committed inside their borders. Under normal circumstances, Tsarnaev would have been tried in a state court. Had that happened, Tsarnaev would have at most faced multiple life sentences but he could not have been executed since Massachusetts banned the death penalty in 1984.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid
    probably what he wants but the fear factor will be life without parole.
    Agreed . . . though I'm against capital punishment anyway, this guy should just spend the rest of his life in jail

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    ^^^ Did you also want to pay the average USD 30,000 multiplied by 60 years = USD 1,800,000 Federal prison tab in todays currency ?

    (Though in most likelihood he's going to cost more to 'protect and maintain'.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee View Post
    ^^^ Did you also want to pay the average USD 30,000 multiplied by 60 years = USD 1,800,000 Federal prison tab in todays currency ?

    (Though in most likelihood he's going to cost more to 'protect and maintain'.)
    Sure, because that's the way it works.

    Every lifer has one person among the population picked to pay the costs - an amazing system.

    It's a 'lucky draw' system where one social security number is randomly drawn to pay the close to 2 million.

    I'm glad you're bringing a bit of reality into this

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    ^^^ I wonder how much the Soc Sec Admin has informed you as to the amount of money you will receive when you wait for your maximum benefit at age 72.
    (I do not know your current age status.)

    God willing you live 20 years (to age 92) pulling full social security benefits it would take 3 social security recipients to cover that Federal cost.
    Of course that wouldn't be in today's dollars, would it ?

    (Just trying to keep a bit of reality into this.)
    By then , you may have to pay taxes on your full Soc Sec benefits, eh ?
    (...because that's the way it works.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    (...because that's the way it works.)
    But that's not the way you illustrated it:


    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    Did you also want to pay the average USD 30,000 multiplied by 60 years = USD 1,800,000 Federal prison tab in todays currency ?
    I'm guessing that - to save costs - every criminal should be simply shot or hung - cheapest alternative . . . this is a logical follow-on of your sentiment.

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    Heaven forbid! If we Brits pursued that course Australia would be all Bongs now and boomerang throwing would be an Olympic event together with synchronised prancing.

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    ^^^ 555.
    That isn't the cheapest logical alternative of dealing with a murderer that carried out a bombing utilizing a hand-made ordinance in what could be classified as a 'terror attack' with his brother at a public event in Boston that killed three and injured multiple others.

    No Ocker , don't put those words in my mouth as it's simply not a sequence of logic.

    Wasn't he just a young , impressionable lad that was bonding with his older brother and didn't have a clue as to what he was doing ?

    No Ocker , I wouldn't waste the bullet(s) nor the rope...maybe train him for a vocation, eh ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    Australia would be all Bongs
    Bongs?
    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    No Ocker , don't put those words in my mouth as it's simply not a sequence of logic.
    I don't need to put anything in your mouth, you did it all by yourself:
    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    Did you also want to pay the average USD 30,000 multiplied by 60 years = USD 1,800,000 Federal prison tab in todays currency ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Agreed . . . though I'm against capital punishment anyway, this guy should just spend the rest of his life in jail
    When I was younger I felt strongly against capital punishment because I believed that innocent people could be sentenced to die particularly if the prosecution utilized 'reduced sentence' for witnesses to testify against another who'll be sentenced to death in capital crimes.
    Along with political prisoners who have not carried out killing.
    I still do.

    In other cases where the preponderance of evidence is so overwhelming and someone has perpetrated a capital crime against children or some people that the offender doesn't even know just for the sake of killing or sending a message ('domestic terrorism')...I've got no problem with a sentence of death to be meted out.

    For example , Timothy McVeigh (OKC bomber, USA) deserved to die (IMHO).
    Funny how my mind works.

    Do you feel that living life within a Federal Pen is a better sentence for someone that has carried out a such a crime against fellow citizens ? If so, why ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    Do you feel that living life within a Federal Pen is a better sentence for someone that has carried out a such a crime against fellow citizens ?
    Yes, I do.

    I've never believed in capital punishment, I believe that the state has no right to murder its own citizens or others' citizens. It simply does not have that right . . . plus it has ben shown to murder innocent people as well.

    Life sentences will remind the prisoner of his crimes every day of his life . . . much better form of punishment, because if people still believe in prison being a rehabilitation facility, especially in the US, then they are naive

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    Do you feel that living life within a Federal Pen is a better sentence for someone that has carried out a such a crime against fellow citizens ?
    Yes, I do.

    I've never believed in capital punishment, I believe that the state has no right to murder its own citizens or others' citizens. It simply does not have that right . . . plus it has ben shown to murder innocent people as well.
    Life sentences will remind the prisoner of his crimes every day of his life . . . much better form of punishment, because if people still believe in prison being a rehabilitation facility, especially in the US, then they are naive
    Do you believe that the State has the right to subject all of its citizens to live under same "the law of its land" even though those same laws effect each individual citizen's own pursuit of liberty (freedom, choice, happiness) differently ?

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    We're talking about the death penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    We're talking about the death penalty.
    No worries.

    This POS will no doubt get 'shived' at some point in the prison laundry in the not too distant future.

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    Yup. He'll know he'll be getting special treatment from some of the other inmates.

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    some of his victims are now saying no death penalty.
    because they will be reminded of the horror every time he appeals.

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    Wondering why the court proceeding has taken so long. Wasn't it all clear?

    Pity, that the older brother and his friend had to be killed. More could be known about the whole action.

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