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    White House Fights to Block Deportation of Illegal Immigrants

    U.S. President Barack Obama's administration is fighting another round in a legal and political squabble over deporting illegal immigrants.

    White House officials said they will ask for a "stay" of a judge's order to overturn Obama's executive actions that would protect many immigrants from legal action.

    The stay would keep the executive actions in place until the issue is appealed to a higher court.

    White House spokesman Josh Earnest said the administration expects to win on appeal because "there is a solid legal foundation for the president to take the steps that he announced to reform our broken immigration system."

    The executive action bypassed Congress and angered many Republicans who took the issue to court.

    Executive turnabout

    On Tuesday, the White House had said the Justice Department would comply with, but also appeal against a ruling handed down by a judge in Texas that temporarily blocked the president from protecting as many as five million undocumented immigrants from deportation.

    That ruling came in the midst of a contentious fight in the U.S. Congress over funding for the country’s homeland security agency, which oversees immigration procedures and border controls. The department's funding is due to expire late next week.

    A spending measure already approved by the House would block Obama’s immigration changes, but the legislation has been stalled in the Senate, where efforts by the chamber's Democratic Party minority bloc has so far thwarted the Republican majority.

    Most Democrats continue to support Obama’s expansion of immigrant rights. The House minority leader, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, said the president’s immigration actions are similar to those undertaken by previous U.S. presidents, including Republicans.

    States opposed

    Judge Andrew Hanen ruled in favor of 26 states, including Texas, that had filed a lawsuit seeking to permanently stop Obama's order. The states argued that the president had exceeded his constitutional authority and would impose undue financial burdens on them.

    The president's executive order included expansion of a program that protects young immigrants from deportation if they were brought to the United States illegally by their parents.

    The program was to begin receiving applications on Wednesday. The president's order would also protect parents of U.S. citizens and permanent residents who have been in the country for at least five years, and had committed no serious crimes.

    White House Fights to Block Deportation of Illegal Immigrants

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    America does with the Mexicans exactly what Thailand does with Cambodians, Burmese and Laos workers; allows them to "sneak" in, but in controlled numbers and tolerates them as long as they do the jobs the Thais are unwilling to do, and for less money.

    Corporate America wants and needs the cheap labor, who else is going to work in an all night Jack-in-the-Box (a fast food cheap restaurant chain) or other equally shitty jobs?

    They're not going anywhere as a whole, except the ones who don't work or commit crimes. Most of the worst ones, like the Los Angeles street gang members were born in the USA and are citizens even if their parents were illegal aliens.

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    Considering the problems we hear with the illegal immigrants in Europe, Americans are lucky to have the hard working and easily assimilated Mexicans as well as the other Central Americans coming in now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    America does with the Mexicans exactly what Thailand does with Cambodians, Burmese and Laos workers; allows them to "sneak" in, but in controlled numbers and tolerates them as long as they do the jobs the Thais are unwilling to do, and for less money.

    Corporate America wants and needs the cheap labor, who else is going to work in an all night Jack-in-the-Box (a fast food cheap restaurant chain) or other equally shitty jobs?

    They're not going anywhere as a whole, except the ones who don't work or commit crimes. Most of the worst ones, like the Los Angeles street gang members were born in the USA and are citizens even if their parents were illegal aliens.
    True, and of course the administration requires voting fodder once they have issued the illegals with citizenship, bank account, free healthcare and a load of other shit true Americans would be kicked out of the door for asking!

    Oh, let's not forget the top quality handout of mineral water while they are waiting at the border!
    You bullied, you laughed, you lied, you lost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    True, and of course the administration requires voting fodder once they have issued the illegals with citizenship, bank account, free healthcare and a load of other shit true Americans would be kicked out of the door for asking!
    Oh, paleeze. You think illegals get this stuff from the US federal government? The "administration" has nothing to do with those things (except citizenship). It's local.

    Oh, let's not forget the top quality handout of mineral water while they are waiting at the border!
    It's those terrible volunteer groups again, leaving out water to thirsty people and their children who cross the desert so they don't die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    America does with the Mexicans exactly what Thailand does with Cambodians, Burmese and Laos workers; allows them to "sneak" in, but in controlled numbers and tolerates them as long as they do the jobs the Thais are unwilling to do, and for less money.

    Corporate America wants and needs the cheap labor, who else is going to work in an all night Jack-in-the-Box (a fast food cheap restaurant chain) or other equally shitty jobs?

    They're not going anywhere as a whole, except the ones who don't work or commit crimes. Most of the worst ones, like the Los Angeles street gang members were born in the USA and are citizens even if their parents were illegal aliens.
    If you are illegal how do you get a legal job.
    Have a friend in CA who uses illegal workers, small construction jobs, but they are not on the books.
    Is it legal to hire illegal workers in say MacDonald's without a SS number, even in Thailand foreign workers are supposed to be documented, big fines for the employers if caught without papers.

    Know you can buy, look the other way at 500 Baht a month here, but would have thought the US was a bit less corrupt.

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    ^ They use social security numbers belonging to other people and pay into those accounts. One social security account can have dozens of people paying in. The illegal workers will never get any benefit.

    Unauthorized immigrants paid $100 billion into Social Security over the last 10 years
    https://news.vice.com/article/unauth...er-last-decade

    A new provision Obama introduced for work permits would give them a social security number of their own. Whether they would eventually get benefits from the program is up in the air.

    I'm glad those people are working in the USA. I would like to see my own social security contributions pay off.

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