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    Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh filmed 'burned alive' by IS

    A video published online by Islamic State (IS) militants claims to show Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh being burned alive.
    The video, which could not immediately be verified, shows a man standing in a cage and engulfed in flames.




    Lt Moaz al-Kasasbeh was captured when his plane came down near Raqqa, Syria, in December on a mission to support the US-led military coalition against IS.

    Jordanian state TV confirmed the death and said he was killed a month ago.
    The video posted online on Tuesday was distributed via a Twitter account known as a source for IS propaganda.

    A relative of Lt Kasasbeh told Reuters news agency that the Jordanian armed forces had informed the family that he had been killed.

    The BBC's Frank Gardner says that the video is clearly intended to shock, but it also reveals how much the coalition air strikes are damaging IS and how eager they are to weaken the coalition's resolve.

    Jordan had been attempting to secure Lt Kasasbeh's release as part of a prisoner swap.

    It had offered to free Sajida al-Rishawi, who is on death row in Jordan for her role in hotel bombings in Amman in 2005, in return for the release of Lt Kasasbeh.

    BBC News - Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

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    Going to be a few executions in Jordan tomorrow then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Going to be a few executions in Jordan tomorrow then.
    An eye for an eye....
    Lovely concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Going to be a few executions in Jordan tomorrow then.
    An eye for an eye....
    Lovely concept.
    Yeah the ISIS boys are so into humane treatment...

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    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.
    Reference? Links? Really? Torn limb from limb? What utter crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
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    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.
    Reference? Links? Really? Torn limb from limb? What utter crap.
    Citation: Flight Lieutenant Paddy Forsyth
    Describing daylight raids to Hamburg in WW2
    Page 302, Lost Voices of the Royal Air Force: Hodder Books

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
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    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.
    Reference? Links? Really? Torn limb from limb? What utter crap.
    Citation: Flight Lieutenant Paddy Forsyth
    Describing daylight raids to Hamburg in WW2
    Page 302, Lost Voices of the Royal Air Force: Hodder Books

    What does all this historic content have to do with the current situation and this thread....??

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    Merely to show how in the past flight crews have also been treated mercilessly and viciously by the people that they have bombed., rather than in line with conventions that apply to POWs.

    I was asked to provide a citation for that, so have done so.

    I'm not saying that it is right to butcher them ! Certainly not. Just saying this is not a historical first for captured airmen.

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    Well I've just watched the full video and it's truly horrific. Beyond anything I've seen before. These sick fuckers really need to wiped of the face of the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.
    1. WWII was 3/4 of a century ago

    2. Not very likely. Most pilots would have been detained as POWs.

    3. WWII scenario was mob justice in the heat of the moment during a bombing raid not a delayed and controlled act of violence carried out to a long held POW.

    4. This burning alive was done for the purposes of filming it so footage could be shown to the world in a deliberate attempt to cause moral outrage and horrify the victims family and friends. It is totally disgusting and any attempt to defend or rationalise it is beyond embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Orange View Post
    Well I've just watched the full video and it's truly horrific. Beyond anything I've seen before. These sick fuckers really need to wiped of the face of the earth.
    Yes, the video is available.
    Best have a look before it is blocked everywhere.

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    They killed the pilot a month ago, they timed the video with the kings visit to the US with it being highly produced and edited. They want to be invaded, they want to die as martyrs. As well as being provocative it is also being used as a tool for recruitment. it is such a fucked up situation

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    Last week, Jordan stated that they would fast track the prosecutions of its ISIS prisoners and the death penalty would be the most likely outcomes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Last week, Jordan stated that they would fast track the prosecutions of its ISIS prisoners and the death penalty would be the most likely outcomes

    Burned at the stake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Last week, Jordan stated that they would fast track the prosecutions of its ISIS prisoners and the death penalty would be the most likely outcomes

    Burned at the stake?
    Should be , Anything they do, should get done back to them . fuck the moral high ground . The gloves are off, get stuck in

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.
    Reference? Links? Really? Torn limb from limb? What utter crap.
    Citation: Flight Lieutenant Paddy Forsyth
    Describing daylight raids to Hamburg in WW2
    Page 302, Lost Voices of the Royal Air Force: Hodder Books
    Not wanting to derail a thread about a pilot who has been enclosed in a cage and set alight in a cold calculated manner long after being captured. Which is a world apart from rage in the heat of the moment by a bombed population.

    Not even in the same universe. Shame on you for implying it is even remotely equivalent in barbarity.


    However. Cannot find that book in e-readable form, or even a reference to that book stating that. What I can find is a few books where people say 'would have been torn limb from limb' if downed. More a figure of speech than actual description. Not convincing. Sorry. Still sounds like utter crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.
    Reference? Links? Really? Torn limb from limb? What utter crap.
    Citation: Flight Lieutenant Paddy Forsyth
    Describing daylight raids to Hamburg in WW2
    Page 302, Lost Voices of the Royal Air Force: Hodder Books
    Not wanting to derail a thread about a pilot who has been enclosed in a cage and set alight in a cold calculated manner long after being captured. Which is a world apart from rage in the heat of the moment by a bombed population.

    Not even in the same universe. Shame on you for implying it is even remotely equivalent in barbarity.


    However. Cannot find that book in e-readable form, or even a reference to that book stating that. What I can find is a few books where people say 'would have been torn limb from limb' if downed. More a figure of speech than actual description. Not convincing. Sorry. Still sounds like utter crap.
    Well obviously you know more than Flight Lieutenant Forsyth, and so does Looper, who isn't open to being contradicted on any subject in the world.

    The book goes on to say that allied airmen would expect usually to be treated fairly by Germany - but were fearful of coming down in Japan held territory.

    Still, I expect you know best on that too, as you always do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    Not even in the same universe. Shame on you for implying it is even remotely equivalent in barbarity.
    Pretty despicable to even make the comparison.

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    Scan the page and post it. Convince us with facts not some interpretation. You're posting in a thread about the worst barbarity trying to deflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    Not even in the same universe. Shame on you for implying it is even remotely equivalent in barbarity.
    Pretty despicable to even make the comparison.
    I did not make the comparion. I merely pointed out that airmen have been inculcated in the past to brutal treatment. Bomber pilots are aware of historical mistreatement of their profession.

    Shame on you all for perceiving even the implication of a comparison.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
    Scan the page and post it. Convince us with facts not some interpretation. You're posting in a thread about the worst barbarity trying to deflect.

    Oh go and buy the book you twat. I'm not your secretary. I'm not trying to convince anyone about what he said, just reporting it. Maybe he was lying in order to discredit the Hun.

    You don't have anything material to 'add' on this thread. You're not an eye witness, just another TEFLer on a tea break.

    I gave you a citation about air crew. Take it from there yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    Not even in the same universe. Shame on you for implying it is even remotely equivalent in barbarity.
    Pretty despicable to even make the comparison.
    Totally despicable. Makes me want to puke. There's a limit to what I can take from apologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.
    Reference? Links? Really? Torn limb from limb? What utter crap.
    Citation: Flight Lieutenant Paddy Forsyth
    Describing daylight raids to Hamburg in WW2
    Page 302, Lost Voices of the Royal Air Force: Hodder Books
    Not wanting to derail a thread about a pilot who has been enclosed in a cage and set alight in a cold calculated manner long after being captured. Which is a world apart from rage in the heat of the moment by a bombed population.

    Not even in the same universe. Shame on you for implying it is even remotely equivalent in barbarity.


    However. Cannot find that book in e-readable form, or even a reference to that book stating that. What I can find is a few books where people say 'would have been torn limb from limb' if downed. More a figure of speech than actual description. Not convincing. Sorry. Still sounds like utter crap.
    So, it seems that Ghost of Moog is making things up again .
    He has previously done that to justify Muslim atrocities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    RAF crews that went down in Hamburg during the war and survived the landing did not come home alive. They would have been torn limb from limb by anyone who could get hold of them.

    And the same would likely have happened to the crew of a Luftwaffe plane ditching near Liverpool.
    Reference? Links? Really? Torn limb from limb? What utter crap.
    Citation: Flight Lieutenant Paddy Forsyth
    Describing daylight raids to Hamburg in WW2
    Page 302, Lost Voices of the Royal Air Force: Hodder Books
    Not wanting to derail a thread about a pilot who has been enclosed in a cage and set alight in a cold calculated manner long after being captured. Which is a world apart from rage in the heat of the moment by a bombed population.

    Not even in the same universe. Shame on you for implying it is even remotely equivalent in barbarity.


    However. Cannot find that book in e-readable form, or even a reference to that book stating that. What I can find is a few books where people say 'would have been torn limb from limb' if downed. More a figure of speech than actual description. Not convincing. Sorry. Still sounds like utter crap.
    So, it seems that Ghost of Moog is making things up again .
    He has previously done that to justify Muslim atrocities
    Last week you were saying I wanted all Muslims killed. This week you say I am a Muslim apologist. Are you in control of your faculties, is this cognitive dissonance, or do you just make it all up as you go along?

    Why don't you go and buy the book as well. See what you make of Bomber Command experiences.

    Maybe they're all lying about their remininscences, just to get their DFCs and VCs.

    Anyway, perhaps you expats should stop trying to feel defensive about your inadequate libraries and stop digressing from the topic.

    Here is a link to the video.....the monstrous end is out of focus and edited.
    http://en.alalam.ir/news/1673118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Orange View Post
    Well I've just watched the full video and it's truly horrific. Beyond anything I've seen before. These sick fuckers really need to wiped of the face of the earth.
    Here's a thought, then. Don't buy what they are selling.

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