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    Israeli air strikes level 12-floor apartment block in Gaza

    Israeli air strikes level 12-floor apartment block in Gaza after giving residents just ten minutes' warning to get out

    • 22 people, including four children, injured when the building in Gaza City was hit by at least two missiles
    • Seven-storey office block and a shopping centre were also bombed in the southern town of Rafah this morning
    • Residents received an automated phone call telling them buildings harbouring militants would be targeted
    • Attacks mark the first time Israeli forces have targeted tall buildings since fighting began on July 8
    • A total of eight people killed in today's airstrikes, Palestinian health officials confirm
    • Four homes, one belonging to a Hamas member, destroyed in an air strike in the southern Gaza town of Khan Younis
    • Strike on a car kills Mohammed al-Ghoul, described as Hamas official responsible for 'terror fund transactions'
    • Mother and her three children killed when their home in the Jabalya refugee camp was bombed


    Israeli airstrikes levelled a 12-floor apartment block in Gaza City, injuring 22 people including four children, after residents were reportedly given just ten minutes' warning to get out.
    The tower block, containing 44 flats, collapsed in a cloud of fire and smoke after it was hit by at least two missiles, and was followed just hours later by the bombing of a seven-storey office building as well as a shopping centre in the southern town of Rafah early this morning.
    The latest series of strikes, which have killed a total of eight people, have signalled a new escalation in seven weeks of fighting, with the targeting of large buildings apparently a new military tactic by Israel.

    More here...

    Israeli air strikes level 12-floor apartment block in Gaza after giving residents 10 minute warning | Mail Online
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    It is high time the IDF & Israeli government were declared a Terrorist organisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    It is high time the IDF & Israeli government were declared a Terrorist organisation.

    ,,,,and maintained by another terrorist organisation.

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    Hamas knew this building was going to be destroyed because they used the 4th floor as an operations facility. That is a violation and a war crime. The Israelis gave adequate warnings before destroying the building. So much notice was given that Hamas had time to set up a camera and film the event.
    Around 30 injured, no deaths. Fair play to Israel.

    In the 12-story apartment tower, the target was a fourth-floor apartment where Hamas ran an operations centre, according to Israeli media. In the past, Israel has carried out pinpoint strikes, targeting apartments in high-rises with missiles, while leaving the buildings standing. However, this time a decision was made to bring down the entire tower, according to Channel 10, an Israeli TV station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    The Israelis gave adequate warnings before destroying the building.
    10 minutes. Adequate.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Hamas knew this building was going to be destroyed because they used the 4th floor as an operations facility.
    Maybe they should base their operations in their vast military complex in all that land they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    It is high time the IDF & Israeli government were declared a Terrorist organisation.
    They have been by several South American countries I believe.

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    that fat fuckin pig netenyahu is the devil incarnate.
    bit like a white cop in America dealing with a black dude.
    kill kill fucking kill, just kill the bastards and kill some more, kill every cnut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    that fat fuckin pig netenyahu is the devil incarnate.
    bit like a white cop in America dealing with a black dude.
    kill kill fucking kill, just kill the bastards and kill some more, kill every cnut.
    An Abrahamic principle.

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    TEHERAN (AFP) - Teheran will "accelerate" arming Palestinians in retaliation for Israel deploying a spy drone over Iran, which was shot down, a military commander said on Monday.

    "We will accelerate the arming of the West Bank and we reserve the right to give any response," said General Amir-Ali Hajizadeh, commander of aerial forces of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, in a statement on their official website sepahnews.com.

    Iran, which does not recognise the existence of Israel, has confirmed it supplied Palestinian fighters from Hamas and the Islamic Jihad with the technology for the rockets being fired relentlessly into Israel from Gaza since July 8.

    Iran's warning comes a day after the Guards said they had brought down an Israeli "Hermes" stealth drone above the Natanz uranium enrichment site in the centre of the country.

    - See more at: Iran 'will arm Palestinians' after it shoots down Israel spy drone over Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    It is high time the IDF & Israeli government were declared a Terrorist organisation.
    They have been by several South American countries I believe.
    I can't find any link to any S American country stating Israel to be a terrorist organisation. But I was suprised to find this.
    In late 2010, Fidel Castro, who no longer holds office in Cuba's government, stated that he believes Israel has a 'right to exist', which is a shift from his regime's earlier policy
    Foreign relations of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    I feel Outraged because,
    and when I see a photo of Gaza city it makes me angry: why are there so many tall buildings still standing ?
    They wanted a war, they got one , let Israel carpet bomb the shithole, give them 10 hours warning to get the fuck out.
    Then put the fleeing rats swarming into Egypt on youtube in Hd

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    They wanted a war,
    no, they want their land back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    They wanted a war,
    no, they want their land back.
    Many still don't get this.
    Creating any assorted justification to tighten their comprehension.

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    Their cause is Just, and right- it is the Israeli's that are the occupiers, and oppressors. So why do we lambast Palestinian militants as terrorists, but not the IDF & Israeli government? That is even ignoring the countless small scale acts of terror being carried on daily by militant Settlers, mainly of the Outpost variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Their cause is Just, and right- it is the Israeli's that are the occupiers, and oppressors. So why do we lambast Palestinian militants as terrorists, but not the IDF & Israeli government? That is even ignoring the countless small scale acts of terror being carried on daily by militant Settlers, mainly of the Outpost variety.
    Very true.

    IN occupied France during WW2, the french resistance were dubbed as terrorists by the Nazis. The simple fact is that occupied people have a right to resist.

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    Gaza death toll increases as Israeli strikes continue
    At least 112 Palestinians killed in more than 350 Israeli air strikes across the territory since the truce collapsed on 19 August



    Violence reverberated across Gaza with Israel launching several deadly air strikes Monday, while Egypt proposed a new ceasefire that would open key crossings into the blockaded territory.

    Since an earlier truce collapsed on 19 August, the death toll in Gaza has risen steadily with at least 112 Palestinians killed in more than 350 Israeli air strikes across the territory.

    Over the same period more than 650 rockets have struck Israeli territory, one of which killed a four-year-old boy over the weekend, army figures show. Around 110 rockets were shot down.

    Since Sunday Israeli fire has killed at least nine Palestinians, including a woman, a 78-year-old man and a three-year-old boy. Among the dead was Abdullah Mortaja, a 27-year-old journalist. Officials said he was hit by tank fire in the Shejaiya area of eastern Gaza City.

    Two people wounded previously died of their injuries yesterday, raising the Gaza death toll since the 8 July start of the campaign to 2,133 with 10,890 wounded.

    The Gaza religious affairs ministry said Israeli fire destroyed four more mosques yesterday, raising to 71 the number destroyed over the past seven weeks. On the Israeli side 68 people have been killed. Yesterday militants fired 107 rockets at Israel, of which 14 were shot down, one in the greater Tel Aviv area, the army said.

    But there was also increasing talk about a possible new ceasefire agreement which would see delegations return to Cairo to resume discussions on an Egyptian proposal to broker a longer-term end to the violence.

    "There is an idea for a temporary ceasefire that opens the crossings, allows aid and reconstruction material, and the disputed points will be discussed in a month," a senior Palestinian official said.

    "We would be willing to accept this, but are waiting for the Israeli response to this proposal," he said, requesting anonymity because of the sensitivity of the negotiations.

    Another Palestinian official said Egypt might invite Palestinian and Israeli negotiating teams to return to Cairo within 48 hours.

    "Efforts are ongoing to reach an agreement," Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri said, without going into specifics.

    Daud Shihab, Islamic Jihad's spokesman, confirmed such efforts were under way.

    "The success of contacts (talks) to reach a ceasefire depends on Palestinian demands being met," he said.

    There was no immediate comment from Israel, with Netanyahu's spokesman Mark Regev saying Israel's position of no negotiations under fire had "not changed".

    But Israeli science minister Yaakov Peri, an observer at the security cabinet and former head of the Shin Bet internal security agency, said if the rocket fire stopped, it was likely talks would resume, although probably not immediately.

    "I don't think it will be a matter of a few hours," he told army radio. "I think this time Israel will try to make sure over several more hours or a day that the ceasefire is holding." In a separate interview, he said: "Generally, we will agree to open the crossings," referring to Erez and the Kerem Shalom commercial crossing for humanitarian aid.

    Regarding Gaza's Rafah crossing with Egypt, "that is a decision for the Egyptians," although Israel would support the deployment of Palestinian Authority security personnel at the terminal, he said, defining the shape of an initial arrangement.

    But a more comprehensive deal with Israel facilitating the reconstruction of Gaza in exchange for its demilitarisation was "far off", he said.

    The invitation to new truce talks came after Egyptian president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi met Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas on Saturday.

    Egypt has repeatedly urged all parties to accept an open-ended truce and return to the negotiating table in Cairo.

    Abbas is expected to convene a meeting of the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Thursday, a Palestinian official said without elaborating.

    Previous temporary ceasefires have failed to produce agreement, although back-to-back extensions have given millions of people periods of relief from incessant bombardment and rocket fire.

    Hamas, the de facto authority in Gaza, says any truce must provide for a lifting of Israel's crippling eight-year blockade and the opening of a seaport and airport, while Israel has demanded Gaza be demilitarised.

    Senior Palestine Liberation Organisation official Wasel Abu Yusef said the Palestinian leadership is to demand the UN security council set a deadline for ending the Israeli occupation.

    Such a move would likely be vetoed by the United States, Israel's ally.

    In the northern West Bank, a 14-year-old Palestinian died of wounds sustained Friday in clashes during a protest against the Gaza war. At least 20 Palestinians have been killed during such protests since 8 July, UN figures show.

    Gaza death toll increases as Israeli strikes continue | World news | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    They wanted a war,
    no, they want their land back.
    And you believe this will happen, or will Hamas continue firing rockets into Isreal which will promote more attacks from Isreal creating more carnage, Hammas is no friend of the Palestinian people, they could care less how many Palestinians are injured and die, there goal is the destruction of Isreal at any cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    there goal is the destruction of Isreal at any cost.
    No its not. They accepted a 2 state solution in April. This is what prompted israel to start the next war because they had no excuses left after that. Once Hamas said "Ok, israel will stay, but we want our own independent state as well" israel knew that they had to go to war again. Why? Because israel does not want a 2 state solution. They want a greater israel with all arabs either slaves to them (like their current arab citizens are), or dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Their cause is Just, and right- it is the Israeli's that are the occupiers, and oppressors. So why do we lambast Palestinian militants as terrorists, but not the IDF & Israeli government? That is even ignoring the countless small scale acts of terror being carried on daily by militant Settlers, mainly of the Outpost variety.
    Very true.

    IN occupied France during WW2, the french resistance were dubbed as terrorists by the Nazis. The simple fact is that occupied people have a right to resist.
    At what point does that resistance become a lost cause and the killing need to stop, why would it not make more sense to stop the rockets, which have led to nothing but death, and start working on how create a good life for the Palestinian people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    there goal is the destruction of Isreal at any cost.
    No its not. They accepted a 2 state solution in April. This is what prompted israel to start the next war because they had no excuses left after that. Once Hamas said "Ok, israel will stay, but we want our own independent state as well" israel knew that they had to go to war again. Why? Because israel does not want a 2 state solution. They want a greater israel with all arabs either slaves to them (like their current arab citizens are), or dead.
    Actually Isreal said they would not negotiate under fire, the rockets kept coming and Israel is committed to protecting it's people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Hammas is no friend of the Palestinian people
    Hamas is no friend to a lot of Arabic countries, especially Egypt.

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    I read in a book many many years ago WW3 had a predicted start point in the middle east .

    At the time this seemed a strange thing to predict as it seemed relatively calm then

    I always assumed IF it was gonna happen it was gonna be started by the Ruskies
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Their cause is Just, and right- it is the Israeli's that are the occupiers, and oppressors. So why do we lambast Palestinian militants as terrorists, but not the IDF & Israeli government? That is even ignoring the countless small scale acts of terror being carried on daily by militant Settlers, mainly of the Outpost variety.
    Very true.

    IN occupied France during WW2, the french resistance were dubbed as terrorists by the Nazis. The simple fact is that occupied people have a right to resist.
    At what point does that resistance become a lost cause and the killing need to stop, why would it not make more sense to stop the rockets, which have led to nothing but death, and start working on how create a good life for the Palestinian people.
    Because my dear friend, any time Hamas has stopped rockets the IDF increase their killing / detentions / beatings / sanctions on food and medicine importations.

    Also, at what point would you personally give up fighting for your freedom when every year your occupier increases its stranglehold on you, forcing famine and disease, assassinating, stealing more and more land, destroying homes and businesses.... when would you say "Ahh ok, no problem, let them have it" when half your family are dead at their hands, a quarter in prison, and the rest in sever poverty?

    Oh, but Israel are the victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    I read in a book many many years ago WW3 had a predicted start point in the middle east .

    At the time this seemed a strange thing to predict as it seemed relatively calm then

    I always assumed IF it was gonna happen it was gonna be started by the Ruskies
    Well...of course you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Hamas knew this building was going to be destroyed because they used the 4th floor as an operations facility. That is a violation and a war crime. The Israelis gave adequate warnings before destroying the building. So much notice was given that Hamas had time to set up a camera and film the event.
    Around 30 injured, no deaths. Fair play to Israel.

    In the 12-story apartment tower, the target was a fourth-floor apartment where Hamas ran an operations centre, according to Israeli media. In the past, Israel has carried out pinpoint strikes, targeting apartments in high-rises with missiles, while leaving the buildings standing. However, this time a decision was made to bring down the entire tower, according to Channel 10, an Israeli TV station.

    Absolutely spot on.

    What is incredible about this conflict is not the massive number of casualties, but the miniscule number of casualties considering the number of missiles raining down on a crowded urban area. Kudos to the blue suede shoes for the accuracy of their missiles, and for the warnings given and for the relative restraint shown in the face of the non stop Hamas attacks.

    That Hamas continue to use women and children as human shields is shameful, but typical of their cowardly modus operandi.

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