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    Islamic State makes true on 'blood' threat, killing US journalist James Foley

    Just hours after the United States announced it would begin air strikes on militants in the north of Iraq, a propaganda video from the Islamic State emerged online with the warning: “We will drown you in blood.”

    That was on August 17 and by Tuesday, after more than 70 air strikes from US fighter jets and drones – launched, President Barack Obama said, to protect besieged minorities trapped by Islamist militants as well as its own strategic interests in Iraq – the Islamic State appeared to have made good its threat.
    Another propaganda video appeared overnight, this one showing the gruesome beheading of American journalist James Foley, in retaliation, his executioner says, for the air strikes in Iraq.



    Speaking English with a British accent, the masked executioner identifies a second journalist, believed to be Steve Sotloff, and warns: “The life of this American citizen, Obama, depends on your next decision.”
    Suddenly, President Obama’s announcement on Monday that Iraqi and Kurdish forces, with US air support, had retaken the strategic dam north of Mosul from Sunni militants took on new meaning.
    Foley, 40, went missing in near the northern Syrian town of Taftanaz while freelancing for Global Post and Agence France-Presse in November 2012. Sotloff has been missing since last August.


    The journalists were just two of at least 20 reporters – local and international – that the Islamic State is holding, as well as several teams of aid workers, human rights groups estimate.
    The significant number of foreign hostages under its control provides the Islamic State with “immensely dangerous leverage”, visiting fellow at the Brookings Doha Center in Qatar, Charles Lister said.
    “Despite being framed as 'punishment' for US airstrikes, IS is baiting Obama to retaliate and expand [US] horizons to Syria,” Mr Lister commented on Twitter.
    Message: A Kurdish fighter pulls down a flag belonging to Islamic State militants at the Mosul Dam on Tuesday.

    At the moment, the Islamic State looks to be an almost unbeatable force in north-eastern Syria and Iraq, Mr Lister warns.

    “Neither the Syrian or Iraqi governments, the Kurds, other armed groups, or Western governments appear to have the capability or urgency or backbone to implement the decisions and actions necessary to begin a long-term process of fighting back,” he wrote in the Huffington Post this week.

    Shiraz Maher, a senior research fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence, told Fairfax Media the fact that IS felt it could directly address the US President indicates how much influence the group believes it already has in Syria and Iraq.

    “The video was very clearly directed towards Obama,” Mr Maher said. “They were saying: 'The fate of this man [Sotloff] is in your hands … we want you to stay out of our internal affairs, we don’t want you to have any form of any involvement in Iraq’.
    “It is an incredibly powerful move from them – to address the most powerful leader in the world in that way shows you how they see themselves.”
    The Islamic State had seemingly been given “free reign to do whatever they like in Syria and now in Iraq”, he said, and the US military commitment in Iraq is still very narrow.
    Mr Maher expects that IS will continue to fight to acquire new territory and consolidate what they already have, and says there is no doubt they will gain some new followers with the release of the horrific execution video.
    “To the ordinary person these things are horrific … but to the people interested in ISIS or who are wanting to join or committed to it, this kind of event emboldens them,” he said.
    In the video posted on YouTube, then later removed, Mr Foley is forced to recite a statement against the US actions in Iraq, specifically addressing his brother John, a US soldier.
    “I died that day John, when your colleagues dropped that bomb on those people they signed my death certificate,” Foley says, under knifepoint.
    His executioner goes on to say: “Today, your military air force is attacking us daily in Iraq, your strikes have caused casualties among Muslims. You're no longer fighting an insurgency, we are an Islamic army …


    “Any attempt by you Obama to deny the Muslims their rights of living in safety under the Islamic caliphate will result in the bloodshed of your people.”
    Both journalists were wearing orange jumpsuits similar to those worn by detainees in the controversial offshore US prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.


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    FFS what can you say

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    Very sad. Foley was balanced and experienced, but he just pushed the envelope too far. He had been captured once before, and eventually released. He went right back into the mix, saying "This is what I do."

    These guys are risk takers, some might say 'junkies', but they provide the photos and reporting that we look at and read each day.

    Ernie Pyle, and many other precede him. RIP.

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    Sickening. The executioner had an English/London accent. Chilling thought that these animals walk amongst us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    FFS what can you say
    One could say that the Yanks need to mind their own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    One could say that the Yanks need to mind their own...
    Yeah, I'm sure he had it coming. Idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post

    One could say that the Yanks need to mind their own...
    Yep. All journalists and photographers should stay in their own countries. Retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Sickening. The executioner had an English/London accent. Chilling thought that these animals walk amongst us.
    Yet, the same type of animals have always walked amongst you. Because they are you.
    You're not conditioned to recognize your own.

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    I watched it on YouTube today.

    Just hope the poor guy was dead when they done it.

    Jesus, hope his poor mum never views it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    I watched it on YouTube today.
    got a link, terry? i've read that some thought the video didn't seem authentic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    I watched it on YouTube today.
    got a link, terry? i've read that some thought the video didn't seem authentic.
    The original [actual beheading] video was up and taken down in short time.
    One had to be real quick to had caught the true video - and not reviews.

    If you search and dig carefully - you can still find it, as it is still being circulated.
    The establishment has done their upmost to censor and blackout everywhere.

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    I'd like to see the video - and that's driven more by Youtube having taken it down, and seemingly every single search result in the Google 'video' section directing to a Youtube video.

    It occurs to me that Youtube has a powerful monopoly going on here and has the ability to dictate what we can and can't see. Is that a fair comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post

    got a link, terry? I've read that some thought the video didn't seem authentic.
    Ain't got the link, I watched it early this morning after signing up to a Google account.

    If you cant find it on Youtube its been deleted.

    As far as not appearing real, Bullshit to that mate.

    The Video showed the last part of the decapitation and the sicko holding up the guys head with very clear facial shots.

    One just hopes he was dead already, he was not moving around so hopefully he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    I'd like to see the video - and that's driven more by Youtube having taken it down, and seemingly every single search result in the Google 'video' section directing to a Youtube video.

    It occurs to me that Youtube has a powerful monopoly going on here and has the ability to dictate what we can and can't see. Is that a fair comment?

    Being a popular platform is hardly a monopoly.
    Youtube decides what it wants to host as any business would.
    What's up now is hundreds of clowns showing news clips talking about it while claiming to show the actual footage to get clicks to their channels.
    If IS wants it seen there are plenty of other ways for them to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    I'd like to see the video - and that's driven more by Youtube having taken it down, and seemingly every single search result in the Google 'video' section directing to a Youtube video.

    It occurs to me that Youtube has a powerful monopoly going on here and has the ability to dictate what we can and can't see. Is that a fair comment?
    This LiveLeak version has the beginning of the beheading where he is still alive and the end result. Viewer discretion advised.

    LiveLeak.com - ISIS beheading American James Wright Foley

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    I'd like to see the video - and that's driven more by Youtube having taken it down, and seemingly every single search result in the Google 'video' section directing to a Youtube video.

    It occurs to me that Youtube has a powerful monopoly going on here and has the ability to dictate what we can and can't see. Is that a fair comment?
    Youtube is under the Google umbrella.

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    James Foley 'beheading': Met police warn public watching murder video could be criminal offence

    Scotland Yard has warned people in the UK that watching, downloading or disseminating the video purporting to show the beheading of American journalist James Foley could be treated as a criminal offence.

    The Metropolitan police said on Wednesday that it is investigating the contents of the video under its counter terrorism command, indicating that its public use or its being shared online could be seen as a criminal offence under the UK’s terrorism legislation, the Guardian reported.

    “The Metropolitan police service counter terrorism command (SO15) is investigating the contents of the video that was posted online in relation to the alleged murder of James Foley,” it said in a statement.

    Twitter said it is cracking down on the spread of gory images across its networking platform after links to the video and screenshots of the alleged murder of Mr Foley had been shared on the platform.

    James Foley 'beheading': Met police warn public watching murder video could be criminal offence - Home News - UK - The Independent

    LOL.

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    The video isn't as bloody as the decapitation videos of 10 years ago.

    However, the production of it is much more polished. Putting material like this on the internet is defeatist propaganda. It isn't hard to kidnap westerners and put on a show like this.

    And - right on cue - it is therefore declared illegal to watch by the thought Police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746
    FFS what can you say
    Go Home Yanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Chilling thought that these animals walk amongst us.
    It's hilarious when they are applauded in some airports and congratulated for doing God's work. Sickening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Yeah, I'm sure he had it coming
    Writes and photographs war scenes, Maybe the Met should consider jailing him for promoting massacres.


    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    Twitter said it is cracking down on the spread of gory images across its networking platform
    Not if the trend is growing they don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    All journalists and photographers should stay in their own countries
    They want the buzz, the fame eh? They take risks sometimes it doesn't pay off.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog
    has the ability to dictate what we can and can't see. Is that a fair comment?
    Only if the banks agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    The Video showed the last part of the decapitation and the sicko holding up the guys head with very clear facial shots.
    It's your choice if you view such things nobody elses. Much better to show the real side of war from 10,000m away or 10,000m above, yes much more entertaining. Oooh look at the fireworks, ooooh look at those bombs fall, ooooh look at the high tech plane fire those sexy missiles. All of which cause death to somebodys brother, son or husband. But hey ho their all brown "folks".

    It's war, get used to it; it's not stopping soon.
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    Gravesend area protest, too bad you tried to protest, as they have been given planning permission and are going to build a huge mosque near Gravesend to accommodate the burgeoning Moslem invasion.
    While our Military play war games in the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    James Foley 'beheading': Met police warn public watching murder video could be criminal offence
    Really? Like "we" have nothing to do with the issue at all?...

    I guess "we" really have to scrutinize the word "public" here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post

    Gravesend area protest, too bad you tried to protest, as they have been given planning permission and are going to build a huge mosque near Gravesend to accommodate the burgeoning Moslem invasion.
    While our Military play war games in the Middle East.
    Yep. Allowing the spillover of illegal wars to enter the country to create disharmony and division amongst the resident populace.
    While they rob them blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746
    FFS what can you say
    Go Home Yanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Chilling thought that these animals walk amongst us.
    It's hilarious when they are applauded in some airports and congratulated for doing God's work. Sickening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Yeah, I'm sure he had it coming
    Writes and photographs war scenes, Maybe the Met should consider jailing him for promoting massacres.


    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    Twitter said it is cracking down on the spread of gory images across its networking platform
    Not if the trend is growing they don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    All journalists and photographers should stay in their own countries
    They want the buzz, the fame eh? They take risks sometimes it doesn't pay off.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog
    has the ability to dictate what we can and can't see. Is that a fair comment?
    Only if the banks agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    The Video showed the last part of the decapitation and the sicko holding up the guys head with very clear facial shots.
    It's your choice if you view such things nobody elses. Much better to show the real side of war from 10,000m away or 10,000m above, yes much more entertaining. Oooh look at the fireworks, ooooh look at those bombs fall, ooooh look at the high tech plane fire those sexy missiles. All of which cause death to somebodys brother, son or husband. But hey ho their all brown "folks".

    It's war, get used to it; it's not stopping soon.
    You're an idiot, is it something in the water today?
    Why would you not condemn the brutal beheading of a civilian prisoner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    FFS what can you say
    One could say that the Yanks need to mind their own...
    Here is the ray gun, you pull the trigger and bam, the US and its entire population is gone. Do you really think Islamic terrorists would then stand down?

    Have you read any history? How many Americans participated in the Crusades?

    How about British soldier murdered in the UK by (British) Islamic terrorists? I suppose he wasn't minding his business?

    Western apologists for Islamic terrorists- you couldn't make this stuff up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    As far as not appearing real, Bullshit to that mate. The Video showed the last part of the decapitation and the sicko holding up the guys head with very clear facial shots. One just hopes he was dead already, he was not moving around so hopefully he was.
    i just watched it, and yes it seems real in that they cut his head off. but as you mention, it is reasonable to doubt that he was alive when it happened.

    there were a couple of edits at key points.....the ISIL guy is talking...edit.....the ISIL puts the knife to foley's throat, but Foley doesn't struggle....almost as if he's drugged (or already dead).....edit.....decapitated head on a downward facing body.

    this ISIL crowd doesn't seem like the types to worry about offending anyone's delicate sensibilities....why wouldn't they just release the whole decapitation from start to finish?

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