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    Quote Originally Posted by Waid
    I hope that each & every one of these murderers is brought to book & dispatched post-haste.
    Yup, they should be slaughtered like pigs alongside Bush Rumsfeld, Cheyney, Wolfawitz and all their people

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    ^ Could always cheyney them together.

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    ^There's a solid link after all

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    LOL... Good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    Well, sure....
    In time, the cnuts who profess all this open and free [and alternative] shit, become one and the same - taking the conventional establishment path.

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    It is normal behaviour , they do this every day through.
    out Europe, slitting throats with a knife, to kill.
    Halal and Kosha meat.
    A normal practise for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    ....why wouldn't they just release the whole decapitation from start to finish?
    I find it macabre, indeed, that we can click a button and view most anything. There are no limits, it seems.

    What "more" are you asking for here?...

    If they showed the "whole thing," it still would not be enough, innit?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    ....why wouldn't they just release the whole decapitation from start to finish?
    I find it macabre, indeed, that we can click a button and view most anything. There are no limits, it seems.

    What "more" are you asking for here?...

    If they showed the "whole thing," it still would not be enough, innit?...

    ....we've become spoiled.
    Half-assed is unexceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    ....we've become spoiled.
    Half-assed is unexceptable.
    except when it's acceptable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    ....we've become spoiled.
    Half-assed is unexceptable.
    except when it's acceptable
    Acceptance that is forced upon and conditioned into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    It is normal behaviour , they do this every day through.
    out Europe, slitting throats with a knife, to kill.
    Halal and Kosha meat.
    A normal practise for them.
    Rubbish. Do you even know what food preparation in accordance with kosher or halal guidelines is? Kosher slaughter requires multiple vital arteries and the vagus nerve to be severed at the same time. The vagus nerve is associated with "stress" and is responsible for the heart beating. Animals are not allowed to be killed within sight or sound of the other, which is quite different than the killing lines at the typical slaughterhouse. Halal slaughter does not require the vagus nerve to be cut.

    After watching hogs crammed on top of the other on their way to slaughter in Phuket a few years ago, I stopped eating Thai pork. When chickens are slaughtered by the processors, they are hung by their feet on a processing line that moves hundreds of terrified birds often in great pain as their wings have been broken or bodies damaged as they were hung up. As the birds pass down the line, their throats are slit as they pass over a blade and they bleed out. Kosher slaughter requires that an individual bird be killed and that the bird must not be injured or otherwise damaged. Halal poultry processing is quite similar to western style chicken slaughtering. Please tell me how the kosher or halal method is "worse" than the factory killing process used around the world.

    If you are really concerned about the cruelty of the slaughtering process, go vegan.
    Kindness is spaying and neutering one's companion animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    Acceptance that is forced upon and conditioned into
    Blame the parents and teachers. Too bad we weren't all raised in your fantasy utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    ....why wouldn't they just release the whole decapitation from start to finish?
    I find it macabre, indeed, that we can click a button and view most anything. There are no limits, it seems.

    What "more" are you asking for here?...

    If they showed the "whole thing," it still would not be enough, innit?...
    Interesting point.
    We can't uninvent the technology we have.

    But if it needs to be regulated, then someone has to decide what we can't see. (I don't know if you're British, but do you remember at the cinema, that Lord Harlech had that job?)

    Seems incorrect that seeing blown up and mutilated Palestinian kids on network television is allowed, but watching an American get his head cut off on some backwater of the web is verboten.

    Such seems like a political call, rather than a consistent independent appraisal.

    And there are criminal penalties for watching content that is one click away - in the case of some types of porn.

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    I suggest some of you put your thinking caps on. Live leak presented a coherent explanation as to why it would not show anymore IS beheadings;

    From there we discussed the possibilities which lie ahead. There is every chance - given the rumours of hostage stockpiling currently doing the rounds - that we could see a return to the dark times of 2004/5 when beheadings happened with an alarming and depressing regularity. It's this which prompted us to make a decision, a decision some of you might not care for but hopefully you'll at least understand.

    We will not be showing further beheadings carried out by IS. We've shown the world the true horror of this form of execution more than once in the past and we cannot find any compelling reason to even be thought of as promoting the actions of this group. We know they do not find support here on LL and that condemnation is virtually universal but there is no reason at all to show more beheadings. Nothing changes about them, they're still relentlessly grim and no deeper insight will be offered by descending into some grotesque "beheading of the week" scenario.

    Read more at LiveLeak.com - Statement From Liveleak Regarding IS Beheading Videos which might be upcoming

    ISIS wants those beheadings disseminated. It is part of their propaganda campaign. Media outlets that offer the video are supporting violent acts of murder. The comment has been made as to why it is alright to show mangled bodies from the Gaza conflict. Some would argue that it shows the horror of the conflict. Others would observe that it is part of the Jihad propaganda campaign where the more blood and gore is evident, the better the ability to incite hatred. I do note that during the peak of suicide bombings against Israel, the Israeli press held off from posting graphic images. Following the jihadi attacks in London and Madrid, western media showed restraint in regard to the posting of graphic images. After the Boston bombing, western media outlets also showed restraint. Some of you may recall the Luca Magnotta murder and cannibalism of the Chinese student in Canada. The video is still circulating, but the media regulatory bodies in Canada have been asked to do their utmost to prevent that circulation on Canadian. I offer that it comes down to how advanced a society is, where the dissemination of graphic images of violence are discouraged. One does not need to see the gruesome images to understand that an event occurred. Nor should such images be circulated to feed the sadistic fantasies of some people. Societies have some boundaries/norms and each society is allowed to decide if extremely violent and degrading images are acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    Societies have some boundaries/norms and each society is allowed to decide if extremely violent and degrading images are acceptable.
    I agree but companies like Youtube, Google (search engine), Twitter and LiveLeaks are global and they are deciding what is 'right' and 'wrong' on a global scale rather than in a 'per-society' way.

    The motto of the Twitter’s General Counsel is/was (allegedly): “We are the free speech wing of the free speech party.” Its response to the Foley footage and images shows a clear change of direction.




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    Reminds me of the US prohibition on television coverage of coffins returning from the middle east.

    Of course, kids are still allowed to see simulated images of people being sliced in two in the movies.

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    as soon as the idiot put thee knife to foley's throat
    my eyes shut tight and my arm went over my eyes also
    when i looked again his head was lying on his back.
    have seen some where the blood spurts from the neck
    but i don't need the image in my head of an actual decap.
    fuk that.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog
    kids are still allowed to see simulated images of people being sliced in two in the movies.
    Hollywood is guilty of many atrocity's.
    A propaganda machine run by the military.
    They are also pretty much bankrupt in the art of making a decent movie.
    bang bang bang, screeeche screech, bang fookin bang you're dead.

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    no one should click on these links.
    let the fagots that upload them get zero hits, likes etc .
    They hate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1
    We will not be showing further beheadings carried out by IS.
    all things considered this is probably a prudent decision.....i'd also wager that uncle sam showed up at their front door a few days ago and "explained" a few things to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    as soon as the idiot put thee knife to foley's throat
    my eyes shut tight and my arm went over my eyes also
    when i looked again his head was lying on his back.
    have seen some where the blood spurts from the neck
    but i don't need the image in my head of an actual decap.
    fuk that.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog
    kids are still allowed to see simulated images of people being sliced in two in the movies.
    Hollywood is guilty of many atrocity's.
    A propaganda machine run by the military.
    They are also pretty much bankrupt in the art of making a decent movie.
    bang bang bang, screeeche screech, bang fookin bang you're dead.
    Grotesque profits surely will over ride any such cultural issues of morals and ethics.

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    This LiveLeak version has the beginning of the beheading where he is still alive and the end result. Viewer discretion advised
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    that's now deleted Sumo, well in this part of the world any way! not sure I wanted to see it any! its a sick World after all......

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
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    ....we've become spoiled.
    Half-assed is unexceptable.
    except when it's acceptable
    Acceptance that is forced upon and conditioned into.
    Those who argue for full access to the recording of Foley's murder are unable to provide a coherent reason upon which the recording should be disseminated. They are oblivious to facts such as;
    1. It was a criminal act.
    2. The recording of the murder violated Foley's right to privacy and his fundamental human rights.
    3. The use of illegal/ criminally obtained materials is in itself a crime.

    Apparently, respect for an individual's right to privacy and to prevent further harm to the victim's family and to society as a whole by disseminating such a disgusting recording must be pushed aside because some sickos need to get their jollies by watching the last minutes of someone's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    Those who argue for full access to the recording of Foley's murder are unable to provide a coherent reason upon which the recording should be disseminated. They are oblivious to facts such as;
    1. It was a criminal act.
    2. The recording of the murder violated Foley's right to privacy and his fundamental human rights.
    3. The use of illegal/ criminally obtained materials is in itself a crime.

    Apparently, respect for an individual's right to privacy and to prevent further harm to the victim's family and to society as a whole by disseminating such a disgusting recording must be pushed aside because some sickos need to get their jollies by watching the last minutes of someone's life.
    1. Which specific law was broken?
    2. What proof do you have that Foley wanted the video kept private?
    3. The owners of the video disseminated it, therefore (presumably) they are happy for people to see it, so how is watching that video on Youtube or Liveleaks illegal? And in which jurisdictions do you base your claims on?


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