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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    So what have the investigation team been spending their hours and somebody's money on.
    I'd try reading the investigation reports.

    Then again reading before opening your trap is not something you're good at, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    So what have the investigation team been spending their hours and somebody's money on. No evidence a court would accept? But you guess/prejudice has been confirmed.

    Either excellent ignorance or your pills need adjusting, which is it?
    Indeed, I was so completely astonished by contextual content of post # 799, that I could not even muster a basic berating reply, to the absurdity of it. Thanks OhOh. Cheers!

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    Nailed it.

    Putin's attempts to blame Ukraine verges upon the cynical Communist deceit of the 1960s and has been roundly condemned for the puerile rubbish it is.

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    No conclusive evidence Russia behind MH17 downing: Malaysia transport minister

    KUALA LUMPUR: There is no conclusive evidence to confirm that Russia was responsible for the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, Malaysian transport minister Anthony Loke said on Wednesday (May 30).

    Investigators probing the 2014 downing of flight MH17 said last Thursday for the first time that the missile which brought down the plane over eastern Ukraine originated from a Russian military brigade. All 298 people onboard died.

    Speaking to Channel NewsAsia on Wednesday, Mr Loke said: "There is no conclusive evidence to point at Russia under the JIT (Joint Investigative Team) evidence."

    Moscow has rejected JIT's accusation, saying no such weapon had ever crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border and that it was an attempt to "discredit Russia in the eyes of the international community".

    "But who's responsible - you can't just pinpoint at Russia," said Mr Loke, when asked about the findings.

    "Of course we have to take into consideration diplomatic relations," he said, adding that "any further actions will be based on conclusive evidence".

    Australia and the Netherlands, whose citizens were also onboard the plane, have informed Russia that they hold the country responsible under international law for its role in bringing down MH17.

    On Tuesday, Russia rejected calls from the Dutch to accept responsibility at a UN Security Council meeting in Ukraine.


    FINAL MH370 REPORT OUT IN JULY

    Meanwhile, Mr Loke also told Channel NewsAsia that the final report on MH370, the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 that disappeared in March 2014 with 239 people onboard, will be released in July.

    "What we are deciding right now is the final report of the investigation team, (which) will be released in July. This is what I've committed - we will give full disclosure without any hiding or editing of the contents," he said.

    Mr Loke also reiterated that the government will consider another search if new evidence resurfaces.

    "If there's any credible lead or evidence, of course I'll bring it back to the Cabinet to reopen the search but as of now, the team has briefed me that they've done everything possible," he said.

    "If there are any offers (like that from Ocean Infinity), they can come to us and we can make a decision later."

    Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...aysia-10290266

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    Why is this recent flurry of nonsense considered 'News'? Yes, MH17 was downed by a Russian manufactured Buk missile. We have known that for years. Buk's are carried by the Russian & Ukrainian defence forces, and the Ukrainian 'rebels'. The question is, who fired it? The second question is, was it a deliberate strike (seems unlikely) or a case of mistaken identity?

    So, Yawwwn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    This surely cannot be true. Flying thru the war zone? How many others did it that time?
    And why the records are not available - and the operators either?
    There were other flights at that time in this particular airspace, but notably some airlines were already avoiding the area.
    I know that both BA & Qantas were already diverting their flights.

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    FlightRadar24 just before MH17 went down
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    Same area just now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Why is this recent flurry of nonsense considered 'News'? Yes, MH17 was downed by a Russian manufactured Buk missile. We have known that for years. Buk's are carried by the Russian & Ukrainian defence forces, and the Ukrainian 'rebels'. The question is, who fired it? The second question is, was it a deliberate strike (seems unlikely) or a case of mistaken identity?

    So, Yawwwn.
    Maybe if you read some of the recent news, you'd have a fucking clue to at least one of your questions, wouldn't you?

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    ^ If you actually have something 'new' that I failed to notice, then cease your incessant babbling and cut n' paste it here (with link, of course).

    Until such time, we know what downed the airliner, but still don't know who fired it- even the Malaysian government agrees, ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    we know what downed the airliner,
    Not so fast.

    Some believe it may be different models of SAM (surface to air) missile. Depending on the model, the countries who had that missile type in their active military arsenal would be capable of firing it and bring down the passenger plane. Those that didn't would not.

    Evidence of the damage the different missile models would produce were provided by the missile types manufacturers. There is no indication as to whether that evidence has been incorporated in the current inquiries findings. The evidence displayed at the recent announcement of Russia's guilt indicated that Russia did not have the actual model in their arsenal at the time of the incident.

    There are questions as to whether the missile displayed and the unused missiles, on the back of a launcher allegedly photographed at the time 'rushing back to Russia", are the same model.

    Other are still suggesting a military plane brought the passenger plane down with an AAM (air to Air) missiles. Depending on what weapon was used determines who had the capability/opportunity to fire the cannon, missile or missiles that brought down the aircraft.

    There is also the missing radar data problem. The current inquiry has not shown evidence from all parties with proven capability. This might suggest those who have failed to provide evidence may be hiding something.

    So, currently, we do not know who or what brought down the passenger jet. What we do know is one country is being asked to admit it did it. Russia.

    Is this another 'Kiev Based Russian Reporter Murdered by Russia", moment?

    ‘Certainly not’: Putin denies Russian missile shot down flight MH17


    Published time: 25 May, 2018 16:11 Edited time: 26 May, 2018 16:02


    The missile manufacturers have identified discrepancy in the alleged missile produced, what type of ordinance the displayed missile carried and who had them in their arsenals at th time of the incident etc.

    https://www.rt.com/news/427799-mh17-...e-not-russian/
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    In such cases when it can always be used against Russia (or was it as such planted), no facts/evidents are necessery - just "highly likely" is enough for the powers that be...

    Sadly, not only for "powers that be" (they follow their promising agenda), but also for some who cannot admit they have bet on a wrong horse (please no names here).

    Who will have the guts to tell them: "How dare you, stop the nonsence"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Not so fast.
    No - We know what downed it.

    Stop waffling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^ If you actually have something 'new' that I failed to notice, then cease your incessant babbling and cut n' paste it here (with link, of course).

    Until such time, we know what downed the airliner, but still don't know who fired it- even the Malaysian government agrees, ffs.
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    The surface-to-air missile that shot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, a Boeing 777, belonged to the Russian armed forces, the Dutch-led Joint Investigation Team (JIT) said May 24.

    Post #781

    Australia and the Netherlands have formally accused Russia of being responsible for downing a Malaysia Airlines passenger jet in 2014.
    So perhaps you should read the fucking news before you actually start spouting bollocks about it, eh?


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    We
    The royal "we", take credit but no responsibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    If you actually have something
    The question was directed to you, not some imaginary, "we".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The royal "we", take credit but no responsibility.



    The question was directed to you, not some imaginary, "we".
    Oh stop waffling.

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