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    Islamic militants retaking Iraq.

    This was inevitable. Saddam kept the extremists down, once the stupid Americans removed him, civil war and an Islamic state were just a matter of time away.
    Iraq conflict: All options open to fight insurgents - Obama


    The BBC's Paul Wood met refugees who have fled to the Kurdish countryside

    Continue reading the main story Struggle for Iraq



    US President Barack Obama says his government is looking at "all options", including military action, to help Iraq fight Islamist militants.
    But the White House also insisted it had no intention of sending ground troops.
    The remarks came after the cities of Mosul and Tikrit fell to Sunni Islamist insurgents during a lightning advance.
    The US has begun moving defence contractors working with the Iraqi military to safer areas.
    "We can confirm that US citizens, under contract to the government of Iraq, in support of the US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme in Iraq, are being temporarily relocated by their companies due to security concerns in the area," state department spokesperson Jen Psaki said.
    Several hundred were being evacuated from Balad air base to Baghdad, a US defence official told AFP.
    Led by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), the insurgents are believed to be planning to push further south to the capital, Baghdad, and regions dominated by Iraq's Shia Muslim majority, whom they regard as "infidels".

    US President Obama: "I don't rule out anything"

    Unconfirmed reports on Thursday said Iraqi forces had launched air strikes on Mosul and Tikrit targeting the militants.
    Correspondents say that if ISIS can hold Mosul and consolidate its presence there, it will have taken a giant step towards its goal of creating an Islamist emirate that straddles Iraq and Syria, where insurgents control a large swathe of territory.
    The United Nations Security Council said on Thursday it unanimously supported Iraq's government and people in their "fight against terrorism".
    Earlier it said the humanitarian situation around Mosul, from where up to 500,000 people have fled, was "dire and... worsening by the moment".


    Analysis: Jeremy Bowen, BBC Middle East editor If ISIS can hold Mosul and consolidate its presence there it will have taken a giant step towards its goal of creating an Islamist emirate that straddles Iraq and Syria.
    It would be the most significant act by a jihadist group since al-Qaeda attacked the US on 11 September 2001. It could also lead to other changes on the borders Britain and France imposed on the Middle East a century ago, starting with break-up of Iraq on sectarian lines.
    The success of ISIS can only make the turmoil in the Middle East worse. ISIS is an ultra extremist Sunni Muslim group. Its success will deepen the sectarian conflict between Sunnis and Shias that is already the most dangerous fault line in the Middle East.
    Iran, which is a majority Shia Muslim country, shares a border with Iraq. It has a direct line to Iraq's Shia Muslim prime minister, Nouri Maliki, and close links with some Iraqi Shia militias. The Iranians could direct their proxies, and even their own special forces units, at ISIS.
    That might end up further inflaming the anger of Iraqi Sunnis, which have already helped the advance of ISIS through Iraq.
    US air strikes, if they happen, might do the same thing. Once again in the Middle East, the Americans have limited options. Its invasion and occupation of Iraq in 2003 helped create and strengthen jihadist groups.

    Insurgent advance "There will be some short-term immediate things that need to be done militarily," Mr Obama told reporters at the White House as he met Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
    "I don't rule out anything because we do have a stake in making sure these jihadists are not getting a permanent foothold in Iraq, or Syria for that matter."
    White House spokesman Jay Carney subsequently added that President Obama was referring to not ruling out air strikes. "We are not contemplating ground troops," he said.
    Iraq's ambassador to the US, Lukman Faily, earlier told the BBC this was the "most serious situation" faced by the country in recent years.

    Iraq state TV airs footage said to be airstrikes on the ISIS-held city of Mosul

    Iraqis gathered at the army's recruitment centre in Baghdad, after officials urged them to fight the militants
    Footage allegedly showing captured vehicles of Iraqi security forces with the ISIS flag in Mosul
    A parliamentary vote to grant PM Nouri al-Maliki emergency powers was delayed earlier after MPs failed to turn up.
    Just 128 out of the 325 MPs were present for the vote.
    Correspondents say the failure of the Iraqi parliament to achieve a quorum to vote on emergency powers says much about the fragmented state of Iraqi politics.
    In the north of the country, Kurdish forces have claimed control of the oil city of Kirkuk, saying government forces have fled.
    The Kurds - seen as a bulwark against the Sunni Muslim insurgents - have also been locked for years in a dispute with Baghdad over Kirkuk, seeking to incorporate it into their own autonomous area.

    The BBC's Rami Ruhayem reports from Irbil in Kurdish-run northern Iraq, as an audio recording of ISIS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani is released

    They are clearly happy to fill the vacuum left in Kirkuk, an area they historically claim as theirs, the BBC's Jim Muir reports from Kurdish-run Irbil.
    Iraqi government forces slowed the insurgents' advance on Wednesday outside Samarra, a city just 110km (68 miles) north of Baghdad.
    But reports have emerged of the rebels bypassing Samarra and seizing the town of Dhuluiya, 90km north-west of the capital.
    Security in Baghdad has been stepped up after a video emerged of the militants threatening to march on the city.

    ISIS in Iraq An Islamist fighter near a burning Iraqi army Humvee in Tikrit
    • The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) has 3,000 to 5,000 fighters, and grew out of an al-Qaeda-linked organisation in Iraq
    • ISIS has exploited the standoff between the Iraqi government and the minority Sunni Arab community, which complains that Shia Prime Minister Nouri Maliki is monopolising power
    • It has already taken over Ramadi and Falluja, but taking over Mosul is its greatest achievement
    • The organisation is led by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, an obscure figure regarded as a battlefield commander and tactician who was once the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, one of the groups that later became ISIS.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-27823955

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    Aww hell, the beautiful new US embassy in Baghdad had just been inaugurated, the pool most recently. Price tag $1 billion, servants to the people of the US need to reside in style. Is it insured?


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    I'm sure the yanquis are secretly quite pleased the Sunni are sticking up for themselves.
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    Move along. Nothing to see here.
    They have freedom and democracy now, I saw Bush give it to them on TV.

    See that? Freedom, Democracy.
    FACT!



    Here's how it works...umm..ahh...
    Hang on, I'll go and grab BettyBoo, Sawyer, Sabang, and let them explain it to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall
    Price tag $1 billion, servants to the people of the US need to reside in style. Is it insured?
    I fink they should be having a little word wiv howeva did the grouting. It looks like a right shoddy job if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall
    Price tag $1 billion, servants to the people of the US need to reside in style. Is it insured?
    I fink they should be having a little word wiv howeva did the grouting. It looks like a right shoddy job if you ask me.
    That would be Ahmed the Grouter. Trouble is, after he finished they had him gang raped by Alsatians for a Youtube video then shot.

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    Iraq was the worst foreign policy blunder in US history. The power vacuum is clear.

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    did i hear it correctly
    55,000 Iraq soldiers ran away from 5,000 ISIS.
    Left all their gear and uniforms to the ISIS.
    somebody is having a larf.

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    can they bring back Saddam to clean up the mess ? oh wait, they murdered him too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    Aww hell, the beautiful new US embassy in Baghdad had just been inaugurated, the pool most recently. Price tag $1 billion, servants to the people of the US need to reside in style. Is it insured?

    I can imagine that most cannot comprehend the irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Iraq was the worst foreign policy mass murder in US history
    Fixed that for you fella - and agree heartily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    Aww hell, the beautiful new US embassy in Baghdad had just been inaugurated, the pool most recently. Price tag $1 billion, servants to the people of the US need to reside in style. Is it insured?

    Seem to have had the plan for this second assault for quite a while then.

    "We're pulling all our troops out of Iraq"

    ("But building a fvcking hotel cos we'll be back next week for more. Sorry to "kick a man while he's down" but every country around the world seems to be calling our bluff right now so we thought we'd go for the easily and recently disabled sitting duck")

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    Oil prices go up... Good news for whoever sells the oil in $ ( the petrodollar ). Now who could that be?

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    Its all about Iran, got them surrounded, Ach-ma-dinner jacket gone in the elections. If your going to collect panini football stickers, or countries why not have the full set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breny
    Now who could that be?
    What are you insinuating mate?

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    I like a nice piece of Apple pie. The pie is getting bigger and now it has extra apples.

    Good on em.

    Allen vanguard is worth checking out, also the British Armour group. prices could rise.

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    The Yanks have certainly fuked up once again.

    All those dead troops and billions of dollars and things are worse than ever..

    The Yanks are now deciding whether to send in the planes.

    Here we go again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Here's how it works...umm..ahh...
    Hang on, I'll go and grab BettyBoo, Sawyer, Sabang, and let them explain it to you.
    I don't believe that I've commented on Iraq, and I certainly wasn't pro the invasion, so not sure what you're trying to say here...

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    As the Taliban used to say " You have the watches, But we have the time " Just can't compete with someone who loves death more than most love life.

    Dialogue is the only answer here, And it will happen.

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    Call to arms as Iraq sinks into sectarian violence


    Iraq sank deeper into all-out sectarian conflict overnight with the country’s most senior Shiite cleric calling for volunteers to take up arms against Sunni militants who are threatening to stage an attack on the capital Baghdad after securing key towns in the north.
    As Iraqi Army troops reportedly abandoned their posts in the northern city of Samarra – the fourth city to be deserted by government soldiers in the face of the alarmingly quick advance of Sunni insurgents led by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) – Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani issued his call to arms.
    In a sermon at Friday prayers in Kerbala, Sistani's representative Sheikh Abdulmehdi al-Karbalai said: "Citizens who are able to bear arms and fight terrorists, defending their country and their people and their holy places, should volunteer and join the security forces to achieve this holy purpose."
    Samarra is home to al-Askari shrine, one of the most venerated Shiite Muslim places of worship. An al-Qaeda attack on the shrine in 2006 ignited the last sectarian war that killed thousands of Iraqis and brought the country to its knees with years of brutal conflict.




    As Iraqis continued to pour out of the northern city of Mosul – the first to fall into ISIL’s hands on Tuesday – the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, expressed alarm at the dramatic deterioration of the security situation and the threat to the civilian population.
    Amid reports of summary executions, extrajudicial killings and the displacement of some half a million people, Ms Pillay warned the full extent of civilian casualties from the conflict was not yet known.
    “Reports suggest the number of people killed in recent days may run into the hundreds, and the number of wounded is said to be approaching 1000.”
    “We have … received reports of the summary executions of Iraqi army soldiers during the capture of Mosul, and of 17 civilians on one particular street in Mosul City on June 11.”
    Even before ISIL overran a series of towns and cities in Iraq’s north this week, a sustained upsurge in violent terrorist acts had been taking a very heavy toll of civilian lives across the country, she warned.




    Read more: Call to arms as Iraq sinks into sectarian violence

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    Americans are the serial losers in those modern time conflicts, can't get enough them

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    Why are they called Islamic militants and not Iraq resistance fighters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Why are they called Islamic militants and not Iraq resistance fighters?
    Maybe because they aren't interested in just Iraq. They want to create a Sunni caliphate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Why are they called Islamic militants and not Iraq resistance fighters?
    They are not resisting anything other than resistance to ISIS (Islamic state of Iraq and Syria) and ISIL (Islamic state of Iraq and the Levant), which by even the loosest definitions are, er, Islamic?

    The ayatollahs must be laughing themselves silly as they watch the West in total and utter confusion, and led, cynics might surmise, by the America-hating, white-hating, Jew-hating Muslim Socialist in the White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Why are they called Islamic militants and not Iraq resistance fighters?
    Maybe because they aren't interested in just Iraq. They want to create a Sunni caliphate.
    Ploplem is, Iran considers itself the rightful home of the Shia Caliphate, and Turkey, a geographically critical part of NATO, is the obvious contender to take up the call for a resumption of the Ottoman Empire with a Sunni Caliph.

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