Results 1 to 19 of 19
  1. #1
    Member Merrimack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Last Online
    27-05-2014 @ 09:19 PM
    Posts
    695

    Insulting Islam: Scorpions Drummer Jailed in Dubai

    BBC News - Scorpions drummer James Kottak jailed in Dubai



    The drummer for the German rock band Scorpions has been sentenced to one month in jail in Dubai for offensive behaviour, according to local media.

    They say James Kottak, an American national, was convicted of insulting Islam, raising his middle finger and being under the influence of alcohol.

    Kottak, 51, admitted to drinking alcohol but denied the other charges.

    The reported incident occurred at Dubai airport on 3 April, when Scorpions were en route to Bahrain for a concert.

    Kottak was arrested following a disturbance in the transit hall, the National newspaper reports.

    The court heard he started swearing and talking about "non-educated Muslims", then flashed his middle finger.

    Witnesses also testified that they heard Kottak shouting that he would not travel with a group of Pakistani and Afghan passengers.

    Denying the charges, he said: "I did not curse Muslims or Islam. I would never do such a thing even if I was drunk," according to Gulf News.

    However, he admitted drinking alcohol without a licence, and was fined Dh2,000 ($550; 320), reports said.

    Kottak is expected to be released and deported in the coming days as he has been in custody since his arrest.

    Best known for their power ballads, including the 1990 hit single Wind of Change, Scorpions have released more than 20 albums since they formed in 1965.

    Kottak joined the band in 1996.

  2. #2
    Thailand Expat
    Albert Shagnastier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Last Online
    22-03-2015 @ 09:09 PM
    Location
    City of Angels
    Posts
    7,164
    Best he waits for the wind of change

  3. #3
    Thailand Expat
    sabang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Online
    04-09-2019 @ 05:06 AM
    Location
    BackinOz
    Posts
    30,807
    As I understand it, he's guilty of being drunk and offensive. shit 'appens.

  4. #4
    Member Merrimack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Last Online
    27-05-2014 @ 09:19 PM
    Posts
    695
    Wait till the world cup in Dubai.

  5. #5
    Thailand Expat
    peterpan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Pleasantville
    Posts
    10,109
    It will do the Gerry good, I month is that all, people have to learn to respect others customs.

  6. #6
    R.I.P
    Mr Lick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Online
    25-09-2014 @ 02:50 PM
    Location
    Mountain view
    Posts
    40,028
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack View Post
    Wait till the world cup in Dubai.

    Same, same but different, Qatar atm but lets not hold our breath over that one. Corruption and kick off's at 1 am isn't boding well with the fans and some of the national FA's.

    To be fair that drummer could easily have been mistaken for a vagrant if he arrived in similar attire to the photo.

  7. #7
    Thailand Expat
    Latindancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:10 PM
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    11,801
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack View Post
    he admitted drinking alcohol without a licence
    A LICENCE ? I always wondered how Westerners did it there...

  8. #8
    Member
    harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    Today @ 08:58 PM
    Posts
    60,457
    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack View Post
    he admitted drinking alcohol without a licence
    A LICENCE ? I always wondered how Westerners did it there...
    Muslims can't buy alcohol (although in practice that normally means while wearing national dress).

    There are loads of pubs and clubs where you can get a drink without a license.

    However, you need a license to buy it from the beer shops.

    Same in Qatar I think.

  9. #9
    Thailand Expat cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 08:49 PM
    Posts
    16,668
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    There are loads of pubs and clubs where you can get a drink without a license.
    That is true, but the law is that you should have a licence to consume alcohol, wherever the venue.

    A lot of people are unaware of this, and a foreigner is very unlikely to have a problem unless they attract the attention of the local bib for any other reason.

    The law in this area is pretty ridiculous. It basically gives the cops the right to lock up anyone who has had a few and who rubs the cops the wrong way.

    Anyway, that's how it is, so best keep it all on the down low and not go around acting the twat like this guy seems to have done.
    Last edited by cyrille; 01-05-2014 at 12:25 PM.

  10. #10
    Member
    harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    Today @ 08:58 PM
    Posts
    60,457
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    There are loads of pubs and clubs where you can get a drink without a license.
    That is true, but the law is that you should have a licence to consume alcohol, wherever the venue.
    That's only for residents and citizens.

    If you are a tourist it does not apply, but tourists can't buy in the beer shops.

    It IS, however, illegal to be drunk in public.

    A lot of taxi drivers have dropped people in the shit over the years after arguments over fares.

  11. #11
    Thailand Expat
    bobo746's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Online
    24-01-2019 @ 09:21 AM
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    14,326
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack
    was convicted of insulting Islam, raising his middle finger and being under the influence of alcohol.
    FFS half of oz should be under arrest.

  12. #12
    Banned

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Last Online
    03-06-2014 @ 09:01 PM
    Posts
    27,545
    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
    It will do the Gerry good, I month is that all, people have to learn to respect others customs.
    ...this is true, to a point.
    But when one is hosting an international showcase, it would be wise to balance one's tolerance and put your political/religious fervor aside for the moment.

  13. #13
    Member
    neemo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    905
    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
    It will do the Gerry good, I month is that all, people have to learn to respect others customs.
    The guy's a 'merkin loudmouth, not a Gerry.

  14. #14
    R.I.P
    Mr Lick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Online
    25-09-2014 @ 02:50 PM
    Location
    Mountain view
    Posts
    40,028
    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746
    FFS half of oz should be under arrest.

    To be fair they were all under arrest when they landed in Australia

  15. #15
    Thailand Expat cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 08:49 PM
    Posts
    16,668
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    That is true, but the law is that you should have a licence to consume alcohol, wherever the venue.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    That's only for residents and citizens.
    So how come this guy is paying a fine for drinking alcohol without a licence (note: not because of any other aspect of his conduct) when he's neither a citizen nor a resident?

    ...he admitted drinking alcohol without a licence, and was fined Dh2,000 ($550; 320), reports said.
    Basically, if as a tourist you drink alcohol in Dubai you can find yourself subject to a fine for doing so without a licence.
    Last edited by cyrille; 01-05-2014 at 08:05 PM.

  16. #16
    Thailand Expat cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 08:49 PM
    Posts
    16,668
    Jailed Scorpions drummer could be released today - StartUp - ArabianBusiness.com
    According to Dubai daily Gulf News, Kottak was arrested at Dubai airport on April 3 and was in transit to Bahrain from Russia.
    However, the daily has since quoted his lawyer, Hamid Al Khazraji, as saying that he could complete his jail term on May 1 or 2.
    “His ticket was booked and purchased today after I had paid his fine on the alcohol consumption charges,” he was quoted as saying.
    Kottak was fined AED2,000 ($544) for drinking and will be deported after serving his sentence.
    He admitted to drinking, but denied gesturing indecently in public and cursing Muslims, the paper said.
    Kottak's absence from the Bahrain gig when he was replaced by Mark Cross sparked questions on fan sites.
    Al Khazraji told Gulf News the case proved the need for a review of the UAE’s liquor licence laws, saying the alcohol was consumed on the plane, but then the drinking issue was highlighted once in Dubai.
    “A temporary permit given to the tourist and maybe even the transit passenger would help clear the confusion in this area, which will also result in boosting tourism,” he said.
    It echoes similar calls from leading Emirati lawyer Yousef Al Baher, who told Arabian Business last year that the current system was confusing.
    Al Baher said residents were made aware of the need to obtain an alcohol licence, but tourists may not realise they also technically needed one.
    However, he said given the application process involved – with applicants required to prove they are non-Muslim, aged 21 or older and earning more than AED3,000 per month – it was impossible for tourists to obtain a licence.
    “Why don’t we give them temporary [alcohol] cards for all visitors,” he said.
    Al Baher said the government could charge a small fee for the licence, which could be provided on arrival at Dubai airport.

  17. #17
    Member
    harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    Today @ 08:58 PM
    Posts
    60,457
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    That is true, but the law is that you should have a licence to consume alcohol, wherever the venue.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    That's only for residents and citizens.
    So how come this guy is paying a fine for drinking alcohol without a licence (note: not because of any other aspect of his conduct) when he's neither a citizen nor a resident?

    ...he admitted drinking alcohol without a licence, and was fined Dh2,000 ($550; 320), reports said.
    Basically, if as a tourist you drink alcohol in Dubai you can find yourself subject to a fine for doing so without a licence.
    Basically, if you piss off someone in power, they will find a way to do you up like a kipper.

    He's lucky they didn't "find" a kilo of charlie in his luggage.


  18. #18
    Thailand Expat cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 08:49 PM
    Posts
    16,668
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Basically, if you piss off someone in power, they will find a way to do you up like a kipper.
    Agreed.

    The sketchy 'alcohol licence for tourists', sometimes 'required' but which doesn't actually exist, is the perfect example of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    He's lucky they didn't "find" a kilo of charlie in his luggage.
    A fingernail clipping sized piece of hash would have been enough.

    Anyways, he looks a dick so all is well.

  19. #19
    Thailand Expat
    kmart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:43 PM
    Location
    Rayong.
    Posts
    10,694
    I'll be whistling that fucking song all day now..

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •