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    Iraq cabinet approves law allowing marriage to 9 year old girls

    About two dozen Iraqi women have demonstrated in Baghdad against a draft law approved by the Iraqi cabinet that would permit the marriage of nine-year-old girls and automatically give child custody to fathers.

    The group's protest was on International Women's Day on Saturday (local time) and a week after the cabinet voted for the legislation, based on Shiite Islamic jurisprudence, allowing clergy to preside over marriages, divorces and inheritances.

    The draft law would also condone a husband's right to insist on sexual intercourse with his wife whenever he wishes.

    The draft now goes to parliament.

    "On this day of women, women of Iraq are in mourning," the protesters shouted.

    "We believe that this is a crime against humanity," said Hanaa Eduar, a prominent Iraqi human rights activist.

    "It would deprive a girl of her right to live a normal childhood."

    The United Nations's representative to Iraq, Nickolay Mladenov, also condemned the legislation.

    Mr Mladenov wrote on Twitter the bill "risks constitutionally protected rights for women and international commitment".

    The legislation goes to the heart of the divisions in Iraq since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in 2003, as Shiite Islamists have come to lead the government and look to impose their religious values on society at large.

    It describes girls as reaching puberty at nine, making them fit for marriage, and makes the father sole guardian of his children when they hit two years of age.

    The legislation is referred to as the Ja'afari Law, named after the sixth Shiite imam Ja'afar al-Sadiq, who founded his own school of jurisprudence.

    The draft was put forward by justice minister Hassan al-Shimari, a member of the Shiite Islamist Fadila party, and approved by the cabinet on February 25.

    Iraqi women protest against proposed Islamic law to permit child marriage - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    These conts are so fuked up its beyond belief.

    Cant we just exterminate that place. ?

    Jesus, no one will miss it will they.

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    I wonder how many Iraqis are now thinking that life under Saddam wasn't so bad afterall.........

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    They are great folks...those Mussies...yeah....

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    We all know that its silly to suggest that all Muslims are bad but considering what thought processes many possess I wonder what the attraction is to a religion that supports that shit.

    The world just don't need people who think like this.

    They add nothing but misery to humanity. Just go in and off the lot is the best course of action.

    Human like is not sacred, humans are defective the same as animals, just cull them.

    Plenty of good ones left so to get rid of the defective scum is doing good in the world.
    Stroller is a Yerman faggot.

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    It describes girls as reaching puberty at nine, making them fit for marriage, makes the father sole guardian of his children at two and condones a husband's right to insist on sexual intercourse with his wife whenever he wishes.

    The legislation is referred to as the Ja'afari Law, named after the sixth Shi'ite imam Ja'afar al-Sadiq, who founded his own school of jurisprudence.

    The draft was put forward by Justice Minister Hassan al-Shimari, a member of the Shi'ite Islamist Fadila party, and approved by the cabinet on February 25.

    It must now be reviewed by parliament, but the draft could very well languish, with national elections scheduled for April 30, and vocal opposition among secularists.

    Shi'ite religious parties first attempted to pass a version of the law in 2003 under U.S. occupation, angering secular Iraqis and prompting protests. Since then, amid Iraq's turmoil, the tug-of-war has continued between Iraq's secularists and Islamists.
    The problem is that in a "democracy" such as Iraq, the natural candidates for office are the Imams. Anyone that would stand against them would be very brave indeed, as their religious enforcers would be around in no time.

    But it's important to note that this legislation has *not* been brought into law. Long way to go yet.

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    The general populace should wrap themselves in pork and go around bumping into every imam they encounter.

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    These proposed laws fully comply with Sharia, though the writer of this report clearly did not have the courage to use that evil word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It describes girls as reaching puberty at nine, making them fit for marriage, makes the father sole guardian of his children at two and condones a husband's right to insist on sexual intercourse with his wife whenever he wishes.

    The legislation is referred to as the Ja'afari Law, named after the sixth Shi'ite imam Ja'afar al-Sadiq, who founded his own school of jurisprudence.

    The draft was put forward by Justice Minister Hassan al-Shimari, a member of the Shi'ite Islamist Fadila party, and approved by the cabinet on February 25.

    It must now be reviewed by parliament, but the draft could very well languish, with national elections scheduled for April 30, and vocal opposition among secularists.

    Shi'ite religious parties first attempted to pass a version of the law in 2003 under U.S. occupation, angering secular Iraqis and prompting protests. Since then, amid Iraq's turmoil, the tug-of-war has continued between Iraq's secularists and Islamists.
    The problem is that in a "democracy" such as Iraq, the natural candidates for office are the Imams. Anyone that would stand against them would be very brave indeed, as their religious enforcers would be around in no time.

    But it's important to note that this legislation has *not* been brought into law. Long way to go yet.
    So, can we expect you to roundly and without compromise condemn the proposed legislation if/when it is passed, without moving the goalposts like that sick fucker pickel by pretending it's not so bad because a non-Muslim American woman raped her kids?

    Btw, does it mean anything to you that such laws could even be proposed by a country's leaders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It describes girls as reaching puberty at nine, making them fit for marriage, makes the father sole guardian of his children at two and condones a husband's right to insist on sexual intercourse with his wife whenever he wishes.

    The legislation is referred to as the Ja'afari Law, named after the sixth Shi'ite imam Ja'afar al-Sadiq, who founded his own school of jurisprudence.

    The draft was put forward by Justice Minister Hassan al-Shimari, a member of the Shi'ite Islamist Fadila party, and approved by the cabinet on February 25.

    It must now be reviewed by parliament, but the draft could very well languish, with national elections scheduled for April 30, and vocal opposition among secularists.

    Shi'ite religious parties first attempted to pass a version of the law in 2003 under U.S. occupation, angering secular Iraqis and prompting protests. Since then, amid Iraq's turmoil, the tug-of-war has continued between Iraq's secularists and Islamists.
    The problem is that in a "democracy" such as Iraq, the natural candidates for office are the Imams. Anyone that would stand against them would be very brave indeed, as their religious enforcers would be around in no time.

    But it's important to note that this legislation has *not* been brought into law. Long way to go yet.
    So, can we expect you to roundly and without compromise condemn the proposed legislation if/when it is passed, without moving the goalposts like that sick fucker pickel by pretending it's not so bad because a non-Muslim American woman raped her kids?

    Btw, does it mean anything to you that such laws could even be proposed by a country's leaders?
    It's fucking absurd, don't be stupid, and of course I condemn it even being proposed. It's the actions of a bunch of uneducated (apart from the Koran) retards. Remember it was Saddam that kept them that way.

    This is stupid, ancient tribal custom, designed to keep wealth within the family, and the women under control, mixed in with a bit of Imam-led paedophilia.

    And don't underestimate how many Iraqis are opposed to it.

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    Man shafting man up the shitter and men marrying underage girls are equally on the evilometer in my book.

    But the west has been reeducated to not only accept gayness, but promote it.

    I've lost interest with the west doing their best to put other countries down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    And don't underestimate how many Iraqis are opposed to it.
    Shhh..... don't shatter their chicken little illusions.

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    Afraid I have lost all respect for our leaders in the west, we fight wars to depose alleged tyrants, send predator drones to kill people hiding in deserts who are no real threat to us.
    We bow to Arab nations [oil] which still have slavery and we speak of human rights.

    Why not just say, pass a law like this and there is a Tomahawk with your name on it, or a drone looking for you.

    Really is just about money and power and our leaders should hang their heads in shame. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Really is just about money and power
    same same everywhere.

    it's the only thing that authorities are interested in
    ie,, the religio gangsters and the politicians.
    both are as dangerous as each other and a major threat to Freedom.
    Follow any and kiss Freedom bye bye.
    it's a mind ting.

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    That's about right, I really hope the young unfortunates get the priviledge of having their clit chopped out before being sent into their 'dream' liaison.
    Don't laugh folks, it's getting heavily into the UK and Europe this Sharia shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It describes girls as reaching puberty at nine, making them fit for marriage, makes the father sole guardian of his children at two and condones a husband's right to insist on sexual intercourse with his wife whenever he wishes.

    The legislation is referred to as the Ja'afari Law, named after the sixth Shi'ite imam Ja'afar al-Sadiq, who founded his own school of jurisprudence.

    The draft was put forward by Justice Minister Hassan al-Shimari, a member of the Shi'ite Islamist Fadila party, and approved by the cabinet on February 25.

    It must now be reviewed by parliament, but the draft could very well languish, with national elections scheduled for April 30, and vocal opposition among secularists.

    Shi'ite religious parties first attempted to pass a version of the law in 2003 under U.S. occupation, angering secular Iraqis and prompting protests. Since then, amid Iraq's turmoil, the tug-of-war has continued between Iraq's secularists and Islamists.
    The problem is that in a "democracy" such as Iraq, the natural candidates for office are the Imams. Anyone that would stand against them would be very brave indeed, as their religious enforcers would be around in no time.

    But it's important to note that this legislation has *not* been brought into law. Long way to go yet.
    So, can we expect you to roundly and without compromise condemn the proposed legislation if/when it is passed, without moving the goalposts like that sick fucker pickel by pretending it's not so bad because a non-Muslim American woman raped her kids?

    Btw, does it mean anything to you that such laws could even be proposed by a country's leaders?
    It's fucking absurd, don't be stupid, and of course I condemn it even being proposed. It's the actions of a bunch of uneducated (apart from the Koran) retards. Remember it was Saddam that kept them that way.

    This is stupid, ancient tribal custom, designed to keep wealth within the family, and the women under control, mixed in with a bit of Imam-led paedophilia.

    And don't underestimate how many Iraqis are opposed to it.
    I agree with the sentiment, and was being neither absurd nor stupid. There are many Westerners, some even on this illustrious board, that go through life excusing the inexcusable and defending the indefensible.

    Regardless of Sadam's methods he kept his people in order, which is more than can be said since they were dragged kicking and screaming into the 'democratic' fold with little regard to the traditional influence of their religious leaders.

    Nothing wrong with a strong man, and things start going belly up when morally righteous Western leaders decide to replace one tyrant with another. The newcomer is usually worse, but marketed in the West as more tolerant or receptive to human rights and civility, always in the name of democracy, invariably to restore their former glory when they fear that even their dumbest voters are starting to see through them, and let's not forget the greatness of armed conflict when the baddies can't cope with your firepower.

    Quite aside from the Koranic imperative of Jihad, Islam started off as a tribal code which involves culture, customs and rituals. But there's no escaping the fact that it is the Koran and Sunna that govern a good Muslim's existence. And these, through the Sharia, are also powerful tools for control in backward societies where people, dulled by the religion, are expected to believe that man made laws are inferior to God's law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo
    Regardless of Sadam's methods he kept his people in order, which is more than can be said since they were dragged kicking and screaming into the 'democratic' fold with little regard to the traditional influence of their religious leaders.
    The Mid-East was defineatly better with him running the show, look now with the death rate in Iraq daily ?, I worked in the Northern Gulf for INOC when the Iraqi soldiers helped us immensely, they hated the Iranians and were generous with their food etc.
    Then George 2W came and fcuked it all up.

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    For all the stupid ignorant fvcks on this thread, Saddam fought the Shiite's, America killed Saddam and now the Shiites are in power.

    Learn your fucking history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo View Post
    Regardless of Sadam's methods he kept his people in order, which is more than can be said since they were dragged kicking and screaming into the 'democratic' fold with little regard to the traditional influence of their religious leaders.
    Actually, the majority Shi'a population, the ones making this decision, are in power in Iraq. And they are mostly "in order", and only doing what they do in Iran.

    Most of the terrorist attacks are carried out by disenfranchised Sunni, who are more likely to be suicide bombers than the Shi'a.

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    No question that the Sunnis commit more Jihadi operations than Shia, since they vastly outnumber them in the region and are better organised.

    But both sides are fuelled by the Koran and the Sunna, with a common contempt for infidels, and both are committed to Jihad as a Koranic imperative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo View Post
    No question that the Sunnis commit more Jihadi operations than Shia, since they vastly outnumber them in the region and are better organised.

    But both sides are fuelled by the Koran and the Sunna, with a common contempt for infidels, and both are committed to Jihad as a Koranic imperative.
    A common contempt for infidels?

    I'd best mention that to the muslim boys and girls (and the one token filipino and indian) on my team, and my other colleagues, they really aren't doing a very good job of showing me contempt.

    Mind you they aren't doing a very good job of marrying 9 year olds, slicing clits or beheading people.

    I shall do a fluke and fucking pester them.



    * Although my muslim boss would laugh and tell me to "stop being a c u n t".

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    It's only a draft bill. It still has to be passed by parliament. The last time a similar bill was put forward, people protested and it failed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    The legislation goes to the heart of the divisions in Iraq since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in 2003, as Shiite Islamists have come to lead the government and look to impose their religious values on society at large.
    Shi'ites are the majority in Iraq - 60%-65% according to the CIA World Factbook.

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    I don't care which clan of Islam or any religions fights for what, my family has fort wars since the crusades, perhaps we should stand up.
    Lets fight for right, unfortunately, most people would not stand up to give their seat to old people on a bus.
    If no one takes up the sword, we well all be slaves, no matter which god, or no god you serve.
    That's the future, what a weak people we have turned into. JIM

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    These conts are so fuked up its beyond belief.

    Cant we just exterminate that place. ?

    Jesus, no one will miss it will they
    I agree that they are fucked up, but exterminating the place is a little too much wishful thinking...violence begets violence, na

    A girl (child) is not ready to be married at 9 years old...and why should the man get custody of the child at 2 years old? This goes against a mother's natural instinct to bond with her child at a young age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    The draft law would also condone a husband's right to insist on sexual intercourse with his wife whenever he wishes
    I feel sorry for these women on many levels. It's a man's world...even worse in Saudi..

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo
    Quite aside from the Koranic imperative of Jihad, Islam started off as a tribal code which involves culture, customs and rituals. But there's no escaping the fact that it is the Koran and Sunna that govern a good Muslim's existence. And these, through the Sharia, are also powerful tools for control in backward societies where people, dulled by the religion, are expected to believe that man made laws are inferior to God's law.
    Absolutely! They use the Koran and religion to run their culture.

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