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    Obama urged to cancel Dalai Lama meeting

    21/02/2014

    China has urged the United States to scrap plans for President Barack Obama to meet exiled Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama, warning it would "seriously damage" ties between the two countries.

    The White House National Security Council said Obama would meet the Dalai Lama, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, at the White House on Friday (local time) in a show of concern about China's human rights practices.

    China calls the Dalai Lama a "wolf in sheep's clothing" who seeks to use violent methods to establish an independent Tibet.

    The Dalai Lama, who fled to India after a failed uprising in 1959, maintains he only wants genuine autonomy for Tibet and denies advocating violence.

    "The United States' arrangement for its leader to meet the Dalai would be a gross interference in China's internal affairs and is a serious violation of the norms of international relations," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in a statement.

    "It will seriously damage Sino-US relations. We urge the United States to take seriously China's concerns, immediately cancel plans for the US leader to meet the Dalai, do not facilitate and provide a platform for Dalai's anti-China separatist activities in the United States," she added.

    The announcement comes at a delicate time for Sino-US relations. The United States has expressed concern about China's increasingly assertive behavior in the East China Sea and South China Sea and Obama's US strategic pivot, or rebalancing, toward Asia, is seen as a reaction to the growing clout of China.

    At the same time, both countries are increasingly inter-dependent and have to cooperate on international issues such as Iran and North Korea. China is also the United States' biggest foreign creditor. As of July 31, China held $1.28 trillion in US Treasury bonds, according to Treasury Department data.

    A senior Chinese official vowed this week to ignore foreign pressure on human rights, and said foreign leaders who meet the Dalai Lama should "pay a price" for it.

    NO SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES

    But previous meetings between Obama and the Dalai Lama have not had serious repercussions.

    In 2011, after the last meeting between the two, China responded with predictably vehement words but stopped short of threatening retaliation, indicating that Beijing was keen to avoid tensions between the world's biggest economies.

    "I think China will send a strong message of protest publicly and privately, trying to warn President Obama to not go too far, because we still have a major, new relationship to build," said Sun Zhe, director of the Center for US-China Relations at Beijing's elite Tsinghua University.

    Chinese President Xi Jinping has stressed repeatedly that China wants to build "a new brand of relations between major powers", based on principles of non-conflict, non-confrontation, mutual respect and cooperation.

    In what appeared to be a small concession to the Chinese, Obama will see the Dalai Lama in the White House Map Room, a historically important room but of less significance than the Oval Office, the president's inner sanctum.

    The United States recognizes Tibet as part of China and does not support Tibetan independence, but supports the Dalai Lama's approach for more autonomy, said Caitlin Hayden, a spokeswoman for the White House National Security Council.

    "We are concerned about continuing tensions and the deteriorating human rights situation in Tibetan areas of China," Hayden said.

    In Tibetan regions of China, including four provinces outside Tibet, more than 120 Tibetans have set themselves on fire since 2009 in protest against Chinese rule. Most have died.

    The White House views the Dalai Lama as "an internationally respected religious and cultural leader" and noted Obama had met him twice before, in February 2010 and July 2011.

    "We will continue to urge the Chinese government to resume dialogue with the Dalai Lama or his representatives, without preconditions, as a means to reduce tensions," Hayden said in a statement announcing the meeting.

    The Dalai Lama was in Washington on Thursday, meeting the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative organization. In a speech there, he did not address the issue of Tibet, but stressed that there was a general need for "compassion, tolerance and forgiveness" in the world.

    Communist Chinese troops took control of Tibet in 1950. China says it "peacefully liberated" the remote region that it says was mired in poverty, exploitation and economic stagnation.

    Exiles and rights groups say China tramples on the religious, cultural and linguistic rights of Tibetans and enforces its rule using brutal methods.
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    Obama Meets with the Dalai Lama
    Friday, February 21, 2014


    Dalai Lama's meeting with Obama in 2010

    Dharamsala, February 21: Despite intense pressure from China the US President Barack Obama has met with Dalai Lama in Washington-DC today.

    Obama hosted the Tibetan spiritual leader at a private meeting in the White House Map Room, which is viewed as an attempt to give the visit a lower-profile. Obama traditionally hosts foreign leaders in the Oval Office.

    Earlier the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said, "The United States' arrangement for its leader to meet the Dalai would be a gross interference in China's internal affairs and is a serious violation of the norms of international relations."

    China threatened that the meeting "will seriously damage Sino-U.S. relations” and that Obama’s meeting with the Nobel Laureate is tantamount to providing “anti-China separatist activities in the United States".

    Over half-a-century of China’s occupation of Tibet has resulted in systematic destruction of Tibetan culture, language and its fragile environment. Since 2009, there have been 127 known cases of self-immolation in Tibet. Many self-immolators have called for freedom for Tibetans and the return of the Dalai Lama to Tibet.

    In October 2009, Obama refused to meet with the Tibetan leader making Obama the first US president not to welcome the Nobel Laureate to the White House. However, the two men met twice since. This is the third.

    The meeting was closed to the news media and according to Bloomberg news, "Obama went directly to an address to a group of Democratic governors and made no remarks about the meeting."

    Before his meeting with Obama, the Dalai Lama has met with Sarah Sewall, who is the newly-appointed U.S. Under Secretary for Civilian Security, Democracy, and Human Rights who will also act as the Special Coordinator for Tibetan issues.

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    Obama praises His Holiness’ commitment to peace and nonviolence
    Saturday, February 22, 2014


    Obama meeting His Holiness the Dalai Lama on Friday 21 February 2014

    Dharamsala, 22 February 2014: President Obama commended “the Dalai Lama’s commitment to peace and nonviolence” and expressed his support for the Middle Way Approach, a policy being followed by the exile Tibetan administration to resolve the long-standing issue of Tibet with China.

    According to The White House Press Secretary, Obama “reiterated his strong support for the preservation of Tibet’s unique religious, cultural, and linguistic traditions and the protection of human rights for Tibetans …” Obama also “encourages direct dialogue to resolve long-standing differences and that a dialogue that produces results would be positive for China and Tibetans.”

    The 45-minutes meeting was held in the Map Room, not the Oval Office — a modest concession to the Chinese — was the third between the two global leaders.

    According to Reuters soon after Obama’s meeting with the Tibetan spiritual leader, China's Vice Foreign Minister Zhang Yesui summoned Daniel Kritenbrink, charge d'affaires of the US embassy in China.

    "The United States must take concrete actions to regain the trust of the Chinese government and people," Zhang said.

    However, commenting on the leaders' meeting, Dr Lobsang Sangay, the exile Tibetan prime minister told AFP, "It sends a very powerful message to Tibetans inside Tibet because it gives them a sense of hope that their voices are heard, even by the most powerful person in the world."

    Earlier China pressed US to cancel the meeting between the two Nobel Laureates stating that it would be tantamount to interfering “in the internal affairs of China” and that it would “severely impair China-U.S. relations”.

    China’s continuing occupation of the Tibetan Plateau has resulted in systematic destruction of its culture, language and environment. As many as 127 Tibetans inside Tibet have set themselves on fire to protest against Beijing's rule over their homeland.

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    Nice slap in the face for China.

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    Chinese President Xi Jinping has stressed repeatedly that China wants to build "a new brand of relations between major powers", based on principles of non-conflict, non-confrontation, mutual respect and cooperation.

    Sure. Let them demonstrate this by starting in their own country and Tibet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer
    starting in their own country and Tibet.
    and the South China Sea .......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    Dalai Lama’s commitment to peace and nonviolence”
    not 100% sure about that statement.

    looks to me like 'commitment to psychological war and violence'
    i see violence as a fact and non-violence as fiction.
    where is it all going to end-up.
    orange robes don't do it for me ENT.

    as far as i can remember living under the Dali lama's was not a comfort zone for the people.
    what is it now, 55 years in exile.
    it seems that the fight for land rights will be with us for a long time to come.

    people are being invaded by frackers in their own country now though this is a minor detail.
    control merchants are in every department of life these days.
    and while this continues i can only see violence.
    do have sympathy for the Tibetans but reality shows us that the strong usually batter the weak for profit. or border control.

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    China urged nothing. The Communist Party did. So who give's a rat's ass. Bastards.

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    Good point, Saipan. They're just a bunch of power-hungry gangsters, really.

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    Socialist meets Communist, nothing odd about that.

    As for freeing Tibet, there is no Tibet to free. While the politicians made grudging noises and the peaceniks scoured the shelves to pick out catchy t-shirts and bumper stickers, China was busy on the ground moving people around by the tens of thousand, arranging forced marriages, re-educating the populace and creating new local and national borders.

    And they did a good job of it, because today there is no Tibet to free and it is difficult to define and identify which are the 'Tibetans' to liberate from the Chinese yolk.

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    Nonsense. There has been a mixing but look at all the Tibetan Buddhists and self-immolaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo View Post
    Socialist meets Communist, nothing odd about that.

    As for freeing Tibet, there is no Tibet to free. While the politicians made grudging noises and the peaceniks scoured the shelves to pick out catchy t-shirts and bumper stickers, China was busy on the ground moving people around by the tens of thousand, arranging forced marriages, re-educating the populace and creating new local and national borders.

    And they did a good job of it, because today there is no Tibet to free and it is difficult to define and identify which are the 'Tibetans' to liberate from the Chinese yolk.
    At least as it is the Tibetan citizenry aren't slaves to the monks.

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    I suppose so. Unfortunately we can't say the same here in the West, what with the Catholic church doing what it has to youngsters, and covering it up.

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