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    US Marines burning bodies of Iraqi insurgents in 2004 revealed: Transparency?

    US Marines burning bodies of Iraqi insurgents in 2004 revealed: Transparency?
    Daya Gamage
    Sat, 2014-01-18

    So much for the transparency, accountability and openness the United States advocate to other nations intervening in their domestic governing style and affairs, is it possible for anyone to believe that neither the US Central Command nor the Pentagon or the White House National Security Council knew that the Marines were involved in utter brutality in burning the bodies of Iraqi insurgents all these years since 2004 is the question posed these days with the emergence of gruesome photographs of the incidents.






    U.S. soldiers burning the bodies of what appear to be Iraqi insurgents

    The explosive photographs, reportedly taken in the Western Iraqi city of Fallujah in 2004, disclosed by the entertainment and celebrity news web site TMZ.com, have sparked a Marine Corps investigation, and that's after ten long years.

    Two pictures show a Marine pouring gasoline on the enemy remains, another two images show the Iraqi soldiers going up in flames while a fifth picture captures the charred bodies.

    The Asian Tribune is carrying some of those photographs with this report.

    U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in the Middle East, determined the photos had not been brought to their attention before. But the question is: with all the well intact and widespread surveillance and intelligence-gathering network the United States possesses, and the Central Command tentacles evenly and tightly spread in the AfPac Region, how could they not know what went on in Fallujah in 2004; and all these ten years?

    The TMZ.com released 41 photographs this week but withheld a fair amount as they were too grisly to publish.

    According to the web site, U.S. Central Command, which is in charge of military operations in the Middle East, reviewed the photos to determine if they had been brought to their attention before.

    They determined they had not.

    The Department of Defense said the pictures appear to show U.S. soldiers in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The code outlines that it is a crime to mishandle remains.

    There is no statute of limitations on the crime, which means the Marines can be prosecuted even if they're no longer active in the military. If convicted, the soldiers could go to prison.

    'We are aware of photos appearing on TMZ.com that depict individuals in U.S. Marine uniforms burning what appear to be human remains,' Cmdr Bill Speaks, from the Secretary of Defense's office said.

    'The Marine Corps is currently investigating the veracity of these photos, circumstances involved, and if possible, the identities of the service members involved.

    'The findings from this investigation will determine whether we are able to move forward with any investigation into possible wrongdoing.'

    Desecration of corpses is a potential violation of the laws of war and the US uniform code of military justice. “You don’t desecrate the bodies of guys you’ve been in a shootout with,” said Eugene Fidell, who teaches military justice at Yale Law School.

    An internal Pentagon check did not determine any knowledge of the alleged corpse-burning incident contemporaneously or since.

    The U.S. Central Command, which directs military operations in the Middle East, determined that the photos had not been previously brought to its attention, TMZ reported.

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    Funny the way that America insists the planet follows it's exemplary examples of mass murder and deception democracy.

    Thaksin may be a greedy, selfish, bent politician - but he has nothing on the US government of the last 20 or so years.

    America calls out everybody for rights violations when they are by far the worst offenders.

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    America == biggest terrorist and Human Right violations in the world before Iran, NK and Syria

    oh the irony !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    utter brutality in burning the bodies of Iraqi insurgents
    Call me the devils advocate for a minute here but how is burning a dead body brutal? If the dude was still alive then yes but a body?

    Better to let the bodies of all the "terrorists" rot in the streets? Can you say health hazard never mind the smell.

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    Burning dead bodies is not a human rights violation. Give me a fucking break. Who gives a fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post

    Burning dead bodies is not a human rights violation. Give me a fucking break. Who gives a fuck.
    Americans , when the boot is on the other foot

    Americans burned and mutilated by Iraq mob | World news | The Guardian

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    ^ Totally different that was an act of provocation. They strung the guys up on light posts. This was not even close to the same thing. This incident was done with no intent to provoke in fact it appears that they didnt want anyone to know. Where they wrong? Yes they where. Was it a war crime like the Falluja incident? Not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub

    Totally different
    Yes , of course it was ....................


    here , have one of these

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    ^ Derp

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    I think we 'civilised' folks also burn dead bodies, it's call cremation.

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    Fukk all wrong with BBQ's

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    By the look at the corpse it may have been there for some time. The stench and health hazard was probably the deciding factor here rather than an attempt to defile or desecrate human remains. Class it as a war crime? Bit harsh. What I can not get over is why American and Brits take photos and movies of themselves doing this shit.

    When 2 armies fight the intent is to beat by killing and maiming the other side. Since most of the fighting is done by frightened, poorly educated kids should we be surprised when the rules are not followed. After all they have never been followed in the centuries preceding when us good christian countries killed each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Burning dead bodies is not a human rights violation. Give me a fucking break. Who gives a fuck.
    Bullshit, if the seppos caught the ragheads doing this they would go apeshit and whinge for everyone to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Burning dead bodies is not a human rights violation. Give me a fucking break. Who gives a fuck.
    There's burning dead bodies - and then there's burning dead bodies.

    More likely that the "terrorists" were just Iraqi people that the soldiers had murdered - 500,000 of them so far.

    I think it's more commonly known as "destroying evidence"

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    Who says they were insurgents? To burn a body properly you need to cremate it. To disfigure it, to hide its identity, you pour petrol over it and ignite. That act alone will not destroy the body. It's a cover up to mask the killing of civilians. Well done Albert.

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    The PC Outrage Brigade cracks me up.

    Drop Napalm on living people? Okey Doky.

    Burn a corpse? Shock Horror!

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    That's sanitation, not desecration. Corpses stink - a lot, they also present a health problem.

    And, who, other than the normal America-hater posters, can say who killed them - could have been Brits...could have been God striking them down for being heathens.

    Finally, as they look to have been rotting away for some time, I doubt they cared.

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    Lets gain the proper prospective here. These bodies where burned during the invasion of Fallujah that interestingly enough was brought on by the incident that mid posted a link to in post #6. The city was initially surrounded and cut off, civilians and noncombatants were allow to leave the city over the course of weeks. I recall the deadline being extended just to be sure that everyone that wanted to did in fact get out. After that the USMC turned that city into glass. These were not innocent civilians and anyone who thinks they where is naive and stupid.

    My guess is this was a little payback for what happened to those contractors. Fitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    civilians and noncombatants were allow to leave the city over the course of weeks. I recall the deadline being extended just to be sure that everyone that wanted to did in fact get out.
    Though I don't disagree with burning these bodies, you are wrong on that point. Fallujah was a slaughter.

    As it believes many of Fallujah's men are guerrilla fighters, it has instructed U.S. troops to turn back all males aged 15 to 55.
    U.S. Won't Let Men Flee Fallujah | Fox News

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    these were decaying bodies being burnt,there is a health reason for it,
    the pc nutters should get a life,in a war zone things are not pretty, so get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    civilians and noncombatants were allow to leave the city over the course of weeks. I recall the deadline being extended just to be sure that everyone that wanted to did in fact get out.
    Though I don't disagree with burning these bodies, you are wrong on that point. Fallujah was a slaughter.

    As it believes many of Fallujah's men are guerrilla fighters, it has instructed U.S. troops to turn back all males aged 15 to 55.
    U.S. Won't Let Men Flee Fallujah | Fox News
    That article goes on to say;

    The military says it has received reports warning that insurgents will drop their weapons and mingle with refugees to avoid being killed or captured by advancing American troops.

    Many of Fallujah's 200,000 to 300,000 residents fled the city before the assault, at which time 1,200 to 3,000 fighters were believed in militant stronghold.

    It pays to read the entire article before posting. You just pulled a boontard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post

    America calls out everybody for rights violations when they are by far the worst offenders.
    Par for the course, actually.
    America has an [unknown] extensive history of such varied activities.

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    Think they did the right thing,rather play safe the trigger a booby trap.
    Could have moved the bodies,and bang. You're laying dead beside them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    The military says it has received reports warning that insurgents will drop their weapons and mingle with refugees to avoid being killed or captured by advancing American troops.
    The military always says that to justify massacres snubby.

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    The US routinely covers up its own atrocities and still bleats like a sheep at the slightest sign of payback.

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